Spanish/Jesuit/MexicanMINE SHRINES

[tertiaryjim]

ok, I see what your talking about. I didn't go in that one. I wasn't in the mood for climbing up that high... that will be on my next visit.

Best luck to you and stay safe.

 

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[hadji009]

great lion!

 

[peralta]

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John, I haven't posted it yet.

 

[Rawhide]

John, I would suggest you carry a tri pod with you. Even a cheapo camera will do a good job. Some of your photos don't have enough info in them, maybe you could get some different angles of the same area if you want folks to follow your post. After reading 6 pages of post, I would say you all missed a lot. If you enter a cave, take a video, you never know what you might have missed. I would very much like to see photos of any priest you have close up. I have posted photos of priest in the past and it drew no interest from the forum. I really like the Grottos section, and believe I may have stumbled onto some. I don't know what I have yet, but seem to have found a city made of stone. Also a basic geology class will help you very much if you haven't done so already. Micro signs I leave alone, but they contain a lot of info. If it moves easily I have to ignore it, because it could be out of place. If I find a sign out of place, it has a whole different meaning. You are finding holes, and that is good. I would be spending time in the dry washes also looking for artifacts. I used to try to follow other people on here John, but just couldn't get it. I just went out and did my own thing, it worked for me. I keep it simple, and share when I can. You are in good company as I have had the honor to work with some of these folks on here, in correspondence mostly, but they have helped me out. Keep posting and looking. Oh, did I mention, get a tripod please lol.

 

[John_Arizona]

its hard to carry a tripod over rough terrain. but for your sake. I won't post anymore photos

 

[dog the treasure hunter]

you gotta have a thick hide, some of the time, when you post on this site, you gotta be like an old ww2 bomber pilot and crew, you know the flack is coming, you just gotta,cross your fingers, stay the coarse and see the mission thru.

 

[weekender]

John Arizona,
Please continue with the pixs, tripod or not. I like em'

 

[sancho]

John post #93 awesome pic looks a lot like the site im working on. Lots of ducks in here. The duck on the left points down to what looks like ahand next to another smaller duck under this looks like a cookie with some writing on it. The cookie also looks metallic. might be worth getting a closer look. Also under the duck on the left is a cover hole. Im new to this so I may be wrong. But on my site ive found that the ducks point to treasure hidden in plain sight.

 

[sancho]

Casca hears a priest for you this is the best pic I can get of it as it is close to a cliff. Also a priest chair. Its about 30 feet tall.

 

[bonuntr]

Lots of info on your priest.....Exciting photo!!!

 

[sancho]

I haven't t had much time to research the priest yet so far all ive come u with is it might be some kind of monk. I have some friends who are native and they don't talk much about it. They call it bad juju. This priest is on a cliff ledge trail that leads into a bowl at the top of a ridge that overlooks the whole canyon only one way in and of this bowl. when you get into the bowl this is what you see. Its awesome. That priest is about 20 feet tall. This pic kinda confuses me. I thin it might be a priest sitting in a chair. Its hard to get a good angle for the camera to show what you actually see at the site. Enjoy.

 

[Rawhide]

its hard to carry a tripod over rough terrain. but for your sake. I won't post anymore photos

Post all the photos you like. Maybe brace your hand on a rock. I use my walking stick. No one else is commenting because its hard to see. Your doing good, dont listen to a fool like me.

 

[Rawhide]

Casca hears a priest for you this is the best pic I can get of it as it is close to a cliff. Also a priest chair. Its about 30 feet tall.<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=867705"/><img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=867706"/>

You finding the old clasic stuff. The newer stuff is smaller and more added to it. Folks may not realized they changed the way to do things a few times over 400 years.I like the old stuff.whats behind it and at the feet.

 

[Rawhide]

perhaps I shall, dog.

Trip lets go.

 

[Shortstack]

Sancho:
In your first photo, there's a LOT of stuff on that hill side, but I'm not going to start marking everything because they may or may not be important. Nature's art can surprise you. I did circle one thing on the lower right that looks like a human head wearing a coonskin cap and spectacles (of all things) LOL. Just couldn't resist. I lightened up the shadows and there's a large "A" or "X" on the surface of the back of the chair. Take a good look now, with the lightened shadows and increased contrast. There's a lot of possibilities.




In the second photo, the Priest, I lightened the shadows and darkened the bright areas, then adjusted the midtones to get a good look at the surfaces of the stones. The two yellow circles at the top are of a candle and flame (on the left) and a "V" on it's side. The "V" is most likely the confirmation mark saying that this stone has man made adjustments to it for the purposes of the trail makers. It is pointing to either the candle flame OR the well worn, bearded face of the Monk that I've circled in white. I circled his face and top of his head to include his "hoodie" he's wearing. He's carrying a pack on his back, too. Since his eyes are wide opened, I would think that the place to check would be where he's staring and look for a cave opening. After all, he IS carrying that candle for some purpose. That's just a guess. The yellow circle on the lower right side, is around some symbols that include a shape that is either a horseshoe OR an upside down mine symbol.

In the lower left, is an object that I circled in yellow that looks every bit like a helmeted head facing to the right. The photo was taken just at the right time for the shadows to shape his nose. The helmet has the side profile of a WW2 German army helmet and has a thick frontal lump that is either a miner's light OR the decorative crest of an ancient soldier, such as a Phoenician or Greek or Roman (later). The design of the WW2 German helmet was taken from the designs of some of the ancient armies, so using that description is not an accident. It's just to give you the shape to look for in the photo.

 

[Rawhide]

Dear ghostdog;
The *shrines* that you would be referring to are known as "grottoes". Grottoes are an integral part of Roman Catholic worship and as such, grottoes may be seen everywhere, especially in the more traditional Catholic countries, such as Western Europe and Latin America. A grotto may be defined as any natural or manmade cave type of structure, utilized for the express purpose of housing a religious artifact, icon or statue.

Grottoes may be as simple as a niche carved out of a rock face with a small statue or crucifix placed inside, or ample and elaborate in the extreme, such as the Grotto Of The Redemption in Bend Iowa, which is the largest religious grotto in the world.

Grottoes are a very common feature seen at all mine entrances which employed Roman Catholic laborers so it should come as no surprise that a mine would have had a grotto in the immediate vacinity of the mine entrance. Grottoes are not nearly as common a feature in North America as most Roman Catholics have embraced the treatises of Vatican II and as such have disgarded many of the older, more traditional customs, therefore grottoes may be relatively unknown structures to younger Roman Caholics and other Christians.

Grottoes also predate Christianity by at least 3,000 years and early pagan grottoes were the norm in ancient Rome, Greece, Egypt and throughout the Middle and Far East. Practically all ancient cultures used grottoes as special places of worship in form or other. The word "grotto" is derived from the classical latin word "Crypta", or the modern latin word "Grupta", which is essentially a crypt. The modern word came into being when Italians discovered a grotto built by the Roman Ceasar Nero, on Palatine mound in the 15th century. The discoverers found the decorations as very unusual and they labelled them as "Grotesque" meaning something that is misshapen or strange looking.

As a general rule, finding a grotto in front of a mine, or immediately inside the main entrance, only stands to reaffirm that the mine in question was in fact worked at one time by Roman Catholic laborers, however due to the continous use of grottoes as informal places of worship since the earliest days of Christianity, it's practically impossible to place a time frame on their construction.

As an aside, I am unaware of any *law*, Spanish or otherwise, requiring that grottoes to be constructed in the vicinity of mines or other places. Grottoes were built by the faithful and pious and as such they built grottoes willingly, just as they do today.
Your friend;
LAMAR

Some folks say turtles dont do anything, I used the grotto to confirm I had a intact bulkhead.......thank you lamar and all for this post.

 

[Rawhide]

There is a few signs that get special attention. Lions and priest.

 

[Rawhide]

I haven't t had much time to research the priest yet so far all ive come u with is it might be some kind of monk. I have some friends who are native and they don't talk much about it. They call it bad juju. This priest is on a cliff ledge trail that leads into a bowl at the top of a ridge that overlooks the whole canyon only one way in and of this bowl. when you get into the bowl this is what you see. Its awesome. That priest is about 20 feet tall. This pic kinda confuses me. I thin it might be a priest sitting in a chair. Its hard to get a good angle for the camera to show what you actually see at the site. Enjoy.View attachment 867918View attachment 867919View attachment 867921

This belongs in the ancient thread. The trees up top have meaning. The ledge is hwo htey contriolled the slaves from running away. What tha did here is a guess without walking the site. But looks like a big ceremonial area. You get chimney rocks in stuff like this, I have a theroy about them. About 60' feet in you may find a treasure room. Due to shift and the size of the hole, it would take a small child to get in if it hasnt collapsed already.

 

[Shortstack]

In that first photo, those rocks sure look "loose" and seems like they could come down onto yor head pretty easy. Be careful. Plus, there's the butt of an elephant going into the cliff, on the left, second stone section at the ground. Then, on the right side of the mount, there an elephant coming around the end at the top.

 

[sancho]

You guys are awesome. If you dig up my post Treasure signs and symbols Diagnosed here you can see what the monk is looking at. And yes it does have to be at night at least late afternoon. And you will be walking along that cliff ledge at night. I didn't get much response on those posts though. The ones that talk about the canyon. The priest is looking at a series of lights or beams is what I call them when the sun sets and shines through gun sights that are lined up and shine through a hoyo or cave which in turn light up all the entrances to that mine. There are about four that I noticed while actually being there and many more that we found looking through the pictures. WE were in awe when all the sights and hoyos lined up that we didn't take any pictures for about a crucial one to five minutes. We were in disbelieve. That was on the summer solstice. Went back a week later and we didn't get the same result. Havent gone back since. Maybe well get the same result on the winter solstice. There are a lot of death traps on the trail that we have noticed. And im sure there are plenty more that we haven't.