Sovereign sounds vs excal sounds

[Murph]

When the guy who cuts my grass here at the condo saw me heading out with the ace 250 and offered 175 bucks bucks for it, I figured this is as lucky as I am gonna get with this machine and took the offer. Three months use out of it for 37 bucks ain't bad. I know newbies seem to love this machine but to be honest I had better luck and easier use out of my previous radio shack machines.

Yellow is considered an unlucky color around here with the fishing community and some guides wont even allow there customers to bring bananas aboard in there lunch. For me this seemed to translate to dirt fishing also and the yellow ace.

With funds still limited and the waters soon to cool down to the point that us locals will have a hard time dealing with it without a wet suit I decided to grab a barely used sovereign GT off ebay.

I have heard that the sov and the excal are pretty much the same thing other than the excal being water proof. Are the tones pretty much the same? I am hoping to have a trained hear by next spring and move out into the water with an excal.

 

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[Sandman]

Neilo and Max could answer this very well, but generally both will respond the same only the tone may be a different pitch than on one machine than the other.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Murph, I have an Excal and a Sov GT, now I have only been using the Sov a couple months and I do NOT have the experience as the others, but I can say they work basically the same, except to me the tones on the Sov seem to be a little richer in tone. I don't know how else to describe it. I have no problem using the Sov or telling when I am on a good target. I use mine with the WOT and able to cover a lot more area in less time. The Sov is a great machine in my opinion.

Your still going to dig pulltabs and bottle caps, you could notch them out I guess, but for me I search with almost no discrimination and I don't use the "notch" knob. I do not want to take a chance on filtering out a good gold target, it's just too easy to dig on the beach to begin with. It nulls out the iron and I would rather dig 25 pulltabs then miss one nice gold ring. Besides it gives me more time to enjoy the "eye-candy". Dental Floss is still on my mind.

 

[Sandman]

Treasure_Hunter, you really need to get that gal out of your mind. Heck, I remember one deep green eyed gal on a float that bumped into me and asked what I was looking for. This happened about 15 years ago and I still remember her.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Treasure_Hunter, you really need to get that gal out of your mind. Heck, I remember one deep green eyed gal on a float that bumped into me and asked what I was looking for. This happened about 15 years ago and I still remember her.

.....and you say I need to get mine out of my mind

 

[Michigan Badger]

This would be a good post to ignore since I'm very new to the Sovereign GT having just purchased one (with WOT) this week. I have also owned the Excalibur 1000.

It's been two years since running the Excal so I can't really compare the two that way.

I've been reading all the online reviews for the Sov GT and some claim the Sov is a much deeper and an all-round better machine than the Excal. Others say they're the same. Go figure?

At this point I don't really know.

One problem I have going right now is when I start to hunt I can't resist grabbing my Tesoro and leaving the GT behind. Today I had a blast with my Tesoro Silver uMax fitted with the mega deep 12x10 coil. I also have an old Silver Sabre II that's fabulous with the 12x10. Tesoro should have a Sabre II statue out in front of their factory! Man! what a great detector!

BUT, I do have to discipline myself and learn that GT! I will do it this week!!!!.....................................maybe.

 

[Murph]

This would be a good post to ignore since I'm very new to the Sovereign GT having just purchased one (with WOT) this week. I have also owned the Excalibur 1000.

It's been two years since running the Excal so I can't really compare the two that way.

I've been reading all the online reviews for the Sov GT and some claim the Sov is a much deeper and an all-round better machine than the Excal. Others say they're the same. Go figure?

At this point I don't really know.

One problem I have going right now is when I start to hunt I can't resist grabbing my Tesoro and leaving the GT behind. Today I had a blast with my Tesoro Silver uMax fitted with the mega deep 12x10 coil. I also have an old Silver Sabre II that's fabulous with the 12x10. Tesoro should have a Sabre II statue out in front of their factory! Man! what a great detector!

BUT, I do have to discipline myself and learn that GT! I will do it this week!!!!.....................................maybe.

Well I guess I wont have your problem with the GT being my only detector. I have a test garden that has had items berried for a few months so I can start there. I think I will be happy just having more than a three tone machine that is not falseing all the time in wet sand.

From the tones I have been able to dl from the net a whole pull tab has a pretty distinct "burp" at the beginning of the tone. I guess I can get an idea on that from the tabs in my garden. I am not particularly plagued by tabs at my beachs but for some reason they still seem to bug me. Its like on Christmas when your eight years old and unwrap a promising looking box only to find socks and underwear. Maybe I just need to grow up

 

[jeff of pa]

I saw on FindMalls Monifications Forum.
There is a Modification that will Increase the Range of tones
on the Sovereign. I forget who does it.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Murph,

Someone gave a link for tones for the Minelabs here do you know where it is? I thought I page marked it, but don't have it now.

 

[Murph]

A few sovereign target tones can be found here.
http://members.tripod.com/~jimyce/sounds.html

Here is a link to dl a zip file with excal target tones
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?21,405738,405738#msg-405738

when listening to the pull tab from the zip file you will hear what I mean by a "burp" at the beginning of the tone as compared to a nickel or gold item sounding smooth. I hope this is not just a recording anomaly and actually sounds like this in the field. Should be a dead give away on a pull tab as opposed to valuable item. Hopefully due to the odd shape of the pull tab and likely has to be laying flat. I guess I will have a better idea when I actually get the detector in my hands.