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[rock]

Well seeing it was 70 degrees and a nice breeze I figured Id go hunt some. I went to the main field and walked the rows. Did about 1/3 of it in only 4 hours. I got excited quite a bit but then got let down! Found a couple of scrapers. Found one piece that was killer in color and it was missing the tip but was reworked to a scraper/ tool. When I saw it the tip part was under the dirt and I thought I had found a killer point but of course it was a reworked piece. Oh is the red rock Jasper? Any way here they are.

 

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[rock]

I'm uncertain of the exact area and tribe, but natives did dig trenches as a means of irrigation. I'm unfamiliar with your land, but in my neck of the woods, trenches are not naturally occurring, unless it's an old creek bed. These normally lead to a pond with a beaver dam. If not, thats your old water.

Yeah on that side I have used g earth on it and it starts at the creek and runs all the way to somebody elses property. That might be the place to hunt for points but rite now I havent met the owner but am looking for them. The trench is deep by the creek and then actually stops at the end to another field about a mile long. It is a interesting thing but there is so many leaves in it rite now I will probably wait till the summer to explore it and I will have snake boots on when I walk it. That will give it time to dry out so it wont be so muddy. On the other side is another field but I am not allowed to hunt it. That field looks good also. Thanks

 

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[coteau]

Dirt can also be an artifact..... see the point? You don't see people posting handfulls from a dig.

Dirt is not an artifact, there could be artifacts in a handful of dirt, though LOL. 99.9% of the people on this planet know that flakes and debitage are artifacts. Flakes are some of the most important ARTIFACTS on an archaeological site. They don't mean anything to the average arrowhead hunter but for archaeologists flakes provide meaningful clues to the past.

I can understand what you mean by posting flakes/debitage, and geofacts though. Most people don't want to look at that stuff on an arrowhead forum. However, if someone, for example, was finding handfuls of overshot flakes or channel flakes that would be an example of very rare diagnostic Paleo lithic technology. Definitely something that I would love to see!

 

[rock]

Dirt is not an artifact, there could be artifacts in a handful of dirt, though LOL. 99.9% of the people on this planet know that flakes and debitage are artifacts. Flakes are some of the most important ARTIFACTS on an archaeological site. They don't mean anything to the average arrowhead hunter but for archaeologists flakes provide meaningful clues to the past.

I can understand what you mean by posting flakes/debitage, and geofacts though. Most people don't want to look at that stuff on an arrowhead forum. However, if someone, for example, was finding handfuls of overshot flakes or channel flakes that would be an example of very rare diagnostic Paleo lithic technology. Definitely something that I would love to see!

Thank you! Finally somebody is seeing the real me.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Hummmmm, if the snide comments don't cease sohio will have some company.

 

[coteau]

I'll also add that I think there are people who deliberately post geofacts and ask "is this an arrowhead?" I don't know if they just do it to annoy people or for their own amusement or what. I don't keep track of who is doing things like that though. I just check these forums out once in a while to see what people are finding...

 

[rock]

No problem I am glad you see the reason I enjoy the flakes. I am finding debris that are in the same shape and am wondering if they are accidents or actually tools. I havent posted them cause most wont see them as anything but broken rocks. But it is hard to believe they are the same shape made from different types of stone as just being rocks. I do study the flakes and the way they are broken or flaked. This helps me discover what is artifacts or just broken rocks from the disc. I am new to hunting fields where there is crops. It is just a learning curve which I am understanding now. Thank you

 

[coteau]

The easiest way to know whether stone was intentionally knapped is by checking if there is a bulb of percussion. Percussion bulbs are not formed by natural forces (except in very rare circumstances).

making stone age tools

 

[GatorBoy]

Dirt is not an artifact, there could be artifacts in a handful of dirt, though LOL. 99.9% of the people on this planet know that flakes and debitage are artifacts. Flakes are some of the most important ARTIFACTS on an archaeological site. They don't mean anything to the average arrowhead hunter but for archaeologists flakes provide meaningful clues to the past.

I can understand what you mean by posting flakes/debitage, and geofacts though. Most people don't want to look at that stuff on an arrowhead forum. However, if someone, for example, was finding handfuls of overshot flakes or channel flakes that would be an example of very rare diagnostic Paleo lithic technology. Definitely something that I would love to see!

Soil is most definitely an artifact if it was placed there by Native Americans.. or is the result of decaying matter that was placed there by them. A mound for example.

 

[rock]

The easiest way to know whether stone was intentionally knapped is by checking if there is a bulb of percussion. Percussion bulbs are not formed by natural forces (except in very rare circumstances).

making stone age tools

Thank you I book marked it for further reading.

 

[coteau]

Soil is most definitely an artifact if it was placed there by Native Americans.. or is the result of decaying matter that was placed there by them. A mound for example.

I'm gonna have to disagree with that! Soil is not an artifact. Some archaeologists might put soil in the ecofact category, depending on the circumstances. But remember, ecofacts are NOT artifacts.

The decaying matter you speak of may have been an artifact at one time but there is no way to know for sure with today's technology. Even if it was an artifact it is no longer an artifact, it has changed into DIRT!

 

[rock]

@ coteau, do you have any other sites you could send me? You can put it in a PM if you like. I have looked the other one over and was wondering if there is any others you can send me. I do find some crazy shapes and they might just be debris or something else. I would like to study these closer with some expert knowledge at hand. Thanks, rock

 

[katdancing]

I have found this thread very informative & interesting, as I pick up everything. Even the tiniest flake.
Will be going to library to ck out William Andrefsky's book of Lithics.

 

[rock]

I have found this thread very informative & interesting, as I pick up everything. Even the tiniest flake.
Will be going to library to ck out William Andrefsky's book of Lithics.

Is that a good book? I have a spot I go to that has quartzite flakes the size of quarters. Some are just flakes but most are worked with tiny secondary flaking on the edges. They are very interesting (to me).