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[rock]

Well seeing it was 70 degrees and a nice breeze I figured Id go hunt some. I went to the main field and walked the rows. Did about 1/3 of it in only 4 hours. I got excited quite a bit but then got let down! Found a couple of scrapers. Found one piece that was killer in color and it was missing the tip but was reworked to a scraper/ tool. When I saw it the tip part was under the dirt and I thought I had found a killer point but of course it was a reworked piece. Oh is the red rock Jasper? Any way here they are.

 

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[GatorBoy]

Actually..no.. I went offshore fishing.

 

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[rock]

Catch anything or were you treasure hunting?

 

[GatorBoy]

Several Yellowtail snapper and one nice red grouper... that was until the Sharks showed up.

 

[rock]

COOL I miss the ocean but not all the traffic and people

 

[GaRebel1861]

Rock,

If you don't mind me asking, What county are you in?

 

[GatorBoy]

Help him out GA. he has heart... I won't argue that.

 

[Tnmountains]

Might be some reduction flakes in there but not seeing any tools. Hard to tell from pictures. I have this one spot and posted about it here but every piece of flint is worked but rarely a tool or point found. But you could load 5 gallon buckets up with worked flakes. I used to spend way to much time there but it was hard to stop looking.

 

[larson1951]

hey hey rock my friend
debitage is waste material that is a by product of tool making and by and large not artifacts even if found on a site
there are infrequent exceptions where a piece of debitage (or flake) may be used as an expedient tool
what i see in your images is debitage and is a sign you are in an area that might have some promise
it sure wouldn't hurt to return to the area since it is good material you have shown

 

[coteau]

Artifacts are anything that were made and used by people and became part of the archaeological record. Artifacts also have to be portable (people could pick them up carry them from place to place). Yes debitage/flakes are artifacts.

Ecofacts, on the other hand, are not artifacts. Ecofacts include things like unmodified bone, burned wood in a hearth, seeds collected by people, etc.

Geofacts are things that look like they were modified by humans but instead were shaped by natural forces.

This is Archy 101 guys, lol.

 

[GatorBoy]

Dirt can also be an artifact..... see the point? You don't see people posting handfulls from a dig.

 

[rock]

Its kinda like playing the game Hot and Cold. You walk about 200 ft and find some then another 10 ft none. It is a tough area to find anything. Its a no plow field and I think in the spring it will be plowed once. I hope anyway. I have found no signs of flakes or a single thing near that dug canal area as of yet. Just along the banks I havent gone down in it as of yet. Mainly due to all the rain and there is no way out once you are in it. The sides are way to steep. I am over on that side of the field looking and hoping but so far nothing. Now this one piece is worked but it might be a broken tool or a scraper. It is the only worked piece I found that day. This area I am looking in rite now is the furthest from the creek. I am looking for pottery but so far not even a piece. Thanks

 

[GatorBoy]

The fact that it's a man made Dug cannal changes everything. It's not old water..
It wasn't there when they were in the area.. so it's irrelevant as far as that goes. Figured you would have known that.

 

[rock]

Well that is debatable due the the Mississippians did dig trenches around there villages. The farmer says it has been there all his life and he is in his 60s. He didnt dig it and doesnt know who did. IDK maybe Civil war if not the Indians.

 

[GatorBoy]

Do you truly.. honestly... believe that to be a Mississippian culture dug trench with an entire village including the mound on that property? Come on.

 

[rock]

Do you truly.. honestly... believe that to be a Mississippian culture dug trench with an entire village including the mound on that property? Come on.

Hello we have a museum here with Mounds on it and a trench dug all around it. It is Mississippian Period. I have been there many times. Etowah Mounds google that.

 

[GatorBoy]

My god... dude! I'm talking about the field you hunt! Geeez. Is the museum in that field?

 

[rock]

The Mississippian culture was all over this area. 10s of thousands of people from that period was here. Not just one mound in this area. You can drive the roads and see them. You wouldnt know that unless you lived here. I am not saying there is a mound on that property. I am saying they dug trenches for farming though.

 

[GatorBoy]

I asked you a simple question...
Regarding the field you are hunting... There's mounds all over my state to dude. They go back to the archaic.

 

[NC field hunter]

Rock, I'm not sure about your trench, but I know here, lots of civil war trenches have not been discovered. Well, probably discovered, but not reported. Staunton battlefield in VA is the only place with civil war trenches, that I know of, around here, that acknowledges their significance. Your trenches may well be from the French and Indian wars. Could be dried out creek beds, or any number of things. Investigate the trench, or trenches. You may be on a significant historical ground, rather than prehistoric.

 

[NC field hunter]

The Mississippian culture was all over this area. 10s of thousands of people from that period was here. Not just one mound in this area. You can drive the roads and see them. You wouldnt know that unless you lived here. I am not saying there is a mound on that property. I am saying they dug trenches for farming though.

I'm uncertain of the exact area and tribe, but natives did dig trenches as a means of irrigation. I'm unfamiliar with your land, but in my neck of the woods, trenches are not naturally occurring, unless it's an old creek bed. These normally lead to a pond with a beaver dam. If not, thats your old water.