So... Please tell me Why does a metal detector cost $2499 again?

[el padron]

Actually, the markup on the peripheral market is so high that $600 search coils start getting thrown in for literally nothing if sales slow for just 1 two consecutive weeks

 

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[masterjedi]

The actual cost of parts is probably not too much. What most are missing is the cost of the factories, people they hire, advertising, shipping, research, trials, etc... I think you get the picture...
Its not just the cost of parts... If it was none of us would have a detector...
Gary in Oregon

 

[dieselram94]

The actual cost of parts is probably not too much. What most are missing is the cost of the factories, people they hire, advertising, shipping, research, trials, etc... I think you get the picture...
Its not just the cost of parts... If it was none of us would have a detector...
Gary in Oregon

Well said. What really bothers me is this attitude in this country lately that all companies are bad/evil and no one should be allowed to make a profit. A very dangerous road to go down for sure...

 

[Frankn]

I'm all for companies making a reasonable profit. I have had several companies in the past and made a reasonable profit, but some companies have this "get as much as They can attitude" that is upsetting the cash flow in industry. For our system to work, a constant flow of cash is required. When companies or billionaires hoard the cash, the economy slows down. Toyota is sitting on a $40 Billion slush fund for example. Frank...-

PS; If I found a big cache, I would really get the economy moving, LOL Frank...-

 

[el padron]

Well said. What really bothers me is this attitude in this country lately that all companies are bad/evil and no one should be allowed to make a profit. A very dangerous road to go down for sure...

Off course its not just parts.. Chances are the folks that sold you your metal detector want even more and they will get it. They are on to something very very special. Shrewed marketing raises hope and in times like these it obviously can be a valuable commodity. Amazingly they are experiencing a perfect storm of "support" (I was going to use harsher verbage there, that would have made my point even clearer.)
For the most part you will never actually know just how many hundreds of millions if not billions they are raking in……...

 

[masterjedi]

Boy.. you have it all figured out.... lol

 

[el padron]

Boy.. you have it all figured out.... lol

Yes, after they started giving away $600. spare coils with every new detector, I put a little thought into it.

 

[dirtscratcher]

Yes, after they started giving away $600. spare coils with every new detector, I put a little thought into it.

Hilarious!

 

[masterjedi]

That is funny isn't it lol lol :-)

 

[el padron]

That is funny isn't it lol lol :-)

LOL, I realize that at the third tier retail level their isn't much left, but how's business,? and what time do you close the garage door on Saturday?...

 

[el padron]

Well said. What really bothers me is this attitude in this country lately that all companies are bad/evil and no one should be allowed to make a profit. A very dangerous road to go down for sure...

Yeah, they used to throw all that crap in thier trunk and drive around with it while they lived in their cars.....
Now they use a website that features the Crown Jewels of India as wallpaper to sell the same re packaged "product" at three times the adjusted for inflation price

 

[dirtscratcher]

Yeah, they used to throw all that crap in thier trunk and drive around with it while they lived in their cars.....
Now they use a website that features the Crown Jewels of India as wallpaper.......

Just wondering what do you do for a living.

 

[Mach1Pilot]

Whites TDI works well in heavy iron soil, and if anything they have lowered their prices, good machine

Ive tried one... It works great on brass and buttons and somewhat ok on bullets.... If you want to dig a lot of nails. It's very, very tough to distinguish a nail from a bullet with a TDI whereas it's very easy to do with the GPX.

 

[el padron]

Ive tried one... It works great on brass and buttons and somewhat ok on bullets.... If you want to dig a lot of nails. It's very, very tough to distinguish a nail from a bullet with a TDI whereas it's very easy to do with the GPX.

I've recently purchased a new machine that I really enjoy using. My results have improved dramatically, because now I get a lot wetter, it's a pleasure to carry where ever I go and less discrimination is applied during use.
It's tones are the best method of target identification that I have ever used. In other words, it discriminates, but it still lets you know something is there.
It runs deep, and for the first time, I have found tiny tiny gold with it, both in coin, and now in natural form.

Until now, I've been working all summer, so I really have not had that much time to use it.
My opinions are based on about 25 hours worth of very recent use.

It's really well-thought-out. A lot of time and effort went into putting it together.

Here's the catch. It goes with me everywhere.
I've always wondered, "why do these things always take the form of a weed wacker?"

Gardeners have pick up trucks, I drive a car.

It's odd because no one else really seems to really care that they're driving around with a hedge trimmer in their trunk, or they have to walk to their choice of location carrying what looks like a Geiger counter.

My new Detector telescopes and folds and it's worth at least a third of what I paid for it (ok, ok, I'll stop)
Thiis is huge, because since they've torn up Benito Jarez, (the main street going into and out of Tijuana) for the past few days, I've simply pulled over, walked over to the freshly exposed gravel road bed that has not seen the sun in 90 years and have made some of the most amazing finds I have made since beginning the hobby a few years ago.

In this particular case you really can't sit there doing that very long until someone comes along and asks you for a bribe, so I have the huge advantage of being able to sit there long enough until I sense that I need to go, then simply telescope it closed, get back into my car, and lay it down in the front seat right next to me, before driving off.
(Mexico used to commonly use these tiny little gold coins up until the 20s or 30s, they are tiny, and apparently lots of people used to carry and also lose them)


There are several distinct advantages to all this.
First of all they would not have let me take the hedge trimmer across the border without paying import tax on it unless it was completely disassembled.
Another reason is is just too much of a pain in the axx to do it every time I cross "la frontera".

Similarly, if I just want to detect a city park in San Diego after coming back from a jog, I just take it out of a regular size backpack and have at it for 15 or 20 minutes.
Someone really respected their client end user, and the interesting thing is it was probably all an accident and business as usual because from the manufacturer perspective they really didn't have me in mind at all.

 

[Fletch88]

El Pardon may we see some of the road bed finds? It sounds like you have a gold mine. You mean to tell me you bought an SDC 2300 that only has 20-$30 worth of parts, R&D and distribution put into it or are you pulling our leg?

 

[onlinesteve]

I think the cost of the material goes up...mine has carbon fiber in it...and that is pretty expensive.

 

[el padron]

El Pardon may we see some of the road bed finds? It sounds like you have a gold mine. You mean to tell me you bought an SDC 2300 that only has 20-$30 worth of parts, R&D and distribution put into it or are you pulling our leg?

It's not a gold mine, but there are lots of targets that surely I am the first to have swung a coil over. An inch below the surface it is rock hard . I've found some of the oldest Coins I have ever recovered. Three of them Gold about a quarter inch wide.

They are so small it seems to me that it probably would take a few of them to register at all.

The road crews are never far, I recovered my best Find by digging shallow spots, soaking them, and returning later that evening.
It's not easy to do, in the daytime it's like digging in the middle of times Square.
When I return in the evening, it's mad Max beyond the ThunderDome. A few days ago, I found that some of the spots that I had soaked had been tampered with, it didn't matter, the tamperers would have needed pin pointers and the targets were generally still there

I'm still trying to figure it all out.

I'm not pulling your leg, you know what kind of detector I bought a few months back.

I am not going to advertise it . It's Made well, and it feels like something you would take with you while searching for treasure

I haven't had a chance to use it because I've been out of town. On the beaches I've found lots more broken silver then I'm used to. The modern Coins have always been there, sometimes I consider them a nuisance, but I still enjoy myself.

The turning points for me are the roads of downtown Tijuana that have been getting systematically repaved for the last year or so. I wouldn't have hunted them with the sovereign GT.
Too much of a spectacle. Also too much of a hassle to take apart and put back together. I've either been very lucky or I'm going to spend a lot more time on Benito Juarez this summer.

I've only been home for a little over a week .
When I get settled I'll post some of the stuff I found on a separate thread.

The point is I'm willing to spend good money on value.Something that some thought has gone into.
I was considering the smaller coil until I realized the run about 600

I usually write from a phone

i'll take some pictures of everything including some of the better finds and surroundings.
It will make a good thread.

Take care

 

[Fletch88]

On yes I forgot about the machine you bought. I was trying to figure which coil was $600 the whole time you were posting. Now I remember.

 

[el padron]

On yes I forgot about the machine you bought. I was trying to figure which coil was $600 the whole time you were posting. Now I remember.

I did end up buying the small coil, I'm glad I didn't pay $600 for it, but it really does improve depth and pinpoints with amazing Percision. (I actually really do not care to dig as far down as the small coils maximum range. )

 

[Pa_Dirtfisher]

My first detector was a Bounty Hunter that I got from Wally world 10 years ago for $150 which worked great as a starter unit. After a few years I bought an Ace 250 Garrett, it had a few more bells and whistles with it but I didn't really find more or any better stuff with it then the bounty hunter but it kept me interested in the hobby. 3 years ago I got my F75 Fisher and have loved it ever since, the discrimination number scale and different tones are great and really cut down digging a lot of bottle caps and pull tabs plus the added depth helps alot. I have since sold the my Garrett and Bounty Hunter to friends at great deals which got them into the hobby too plus helped offset the cost of my Fisher F75 $750. I shopped around for months and found a great deal before I pulled the trigger and purchased it. I think some people just have to go out and buy the best and most expensive new toy thinking that it makes it easier to find stuff only to get confused by all the different settings they have.. Which is how I ended up getting a smoking deal on the Minelab Safari I picked up a couple months ago. My advice would be start out with a basic unit and if you still love it after a year or two then upgrade. A pin pointer makes a HUGE difference also, I'd never wanna go out digging without one now lol