Silver Manipulation? You dont say! How low exactly can it go?

Re: Silver Manipulation? You don't say! How low exactly can it go?

uping margin levels (% of contract's worth that must be paid "upfront" in cash to back the future contract) drives out the small players --who typically go "long" or bet that the price will go up -- when margins are raised it forces small time players "out" since they can not easily come up with the additional cash to back their long positions -- this in effect "pushes" them out of the market causing the price to fall benifieting the "big money" short(prices will fall) players -- and since the --big money folks sit on the boards that control the setting of the contracts margin % -- its like playing poker where a big time wealthy player gives marked cards to a other wize straight dealer to play the game with --- its a "rigged game" from the get go since the wealthy can "up margin" % wize as they like since they can afford to "back" their action .--- classical --the wealthy hand that controls the throttle (via margin % amounts needed to "play" the game ) they fix who can "afford" to play the game and when --thus controlling how fast or slow the markets raise and fall.

lower margins -- more "players" --drives up demand -----prices raise

raise margins ---less players ---cools off the market --prices drop

not rocket science folks.
 

Re: Silver Manipulation? You don't say! How low exactly can it go?

ivan salis said:
uping margin levels (% of contract's worth that must be paid "upfront" in cash to back the future contract) drives out the small players --who typically go "long" or bet that the price will go up -- when margins are raised it forces small time players "out" since they can not easily come up with the additional cash to back their long positions -- this in effect "pushes" them out of the market causing the price to fall benifieting the "big money" short(prices will fall) players -- and since the --big money folks sit on the boards that control the setting of the contracts margin % -- its like playing poker where a big time wealthy player gives marked cards to a other wize straight dealer to play the game with --- its a "rigged game" from the get go since the wealthy can "up margin" % wize as they like since they can afford to "back" their action .--- classical --the wealthy hand that controls the throttle (via margin % amounts needed to "play" the game ) they fix who can "afford" to play the game and when --thus controlling how fast or slow the markets raise and fall.

lower margins -- more "players" --drives up demand -----prices raise

raise margins ---less players ---cools off the market --prices drop

not rocket science folks.

http://www.silverseek.com/
 

Re: Silver Manipulation? You don't say! How low exactly can it go?

Great link Vodka, thanks for that!!!

Posted it right to my Bookmarks bar.... sure wish I could have bought more when it was at $33....
 

Re: Silver Manipulation? You don't say! How low exactly can it go?

My opinion is that it will continue to teeter-totter like it has for a while, but will hit $60 by the end of the year if the status quo remains as it is... Do YOU see gas going down anytime soon??
But to be frankly honest, my opinions should not be taken as anything but that... I really am no pro.. Silver Jim and many others have a much better handle on all of this than I, and even they arent really sure right now...
But in the long run? If PM's EVER go back down to what they were even just a couple years ago, the economy will be so good that we really wont care.... So until things change for the better in this country for and stay there for awhile, I dont think PM's will tank like they did in the 80's.... I feel safe in saying we will never see $18/oz silver, or $400/oz gold, again...
 

Re: Silver Manipulation? You don't say! How low exactly can it go?

I took advantage of the price dip and bought 17 Silver Maple Leafs yesterday before it started moving upward again.

(yeah, I know - I'm a real "big money" player lol!)
 

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hombre_de_plata_flaco said:
I took advantage of the price dip and bought 17 Silver Maple Leafs yesterday before it started moving upward again.

(yeah, I know - I'm a real "big money" player lol!)

And now you have 17 more ounces of silver than most people have! That's a "big money" player in my book. :wink:
 

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mts said:
And now you have 17 more ounces of silver than most people have! That's a "big money" player in my book. :wink:

I didn't just get a bunch off APMEX either. I found a local seller who wanted to dump off part of his collection. They are all still sealed from the Royal Canadian Mint. It is a set that runs 17 years from the first year they were minted in 1988 'til 2003. I already had one from 2011, so I'm just a few shy of a complete run.
 

Re: Silver Manipulation? You don't say! How low exactly can it go?

hombre_de_plata_flaco said:
mts said:
And now you have 17 more ounces of silver than most people have! That's a "big money" player in my book. :wink:

I didn't just get a bunch off APMEX either. I found a local seller who wanted to dump off part of his collection. They are all still sealed from the Royal Canadian Mint. It is a set that runs 17 years from the first year they were minted in 1988 'til 2003. I already had one from 2011, so I'm just a few shy of a complete run.

That's a nice set. Those Canadians make some really nice looking coins. And they are .9999 instead of the standard .999 too.
 

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mts said:
That's a nice set. Those Canadians make some really nice looking coins. And they are .9999 instead of the standard .999 too.

Whoops! I forgot to post a pic before someone here accuses me of being FOS (again):

newmapleleafs.jpg


Thanks for the compliment my friend.
 

Re: Silver Manipulation? You don't say! How low exactly can it go?

You didn't happen to get any of the "privy" coins in that set did you? The odds are that you didn't but you should check to be sure. They are worth more than the standard ones.
 

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mts said:
You didn't happen to get any of the "privy" coins in that set did you? The odds are that you didn't but you should check to be sure. They are worth more than the standard ones.

I've only been collecting coins/hoarding silver for about two years so I am unfamiliar with this term "privy". Please explain and I will be certain to check. Thanks for the heads up and info regardless. I am always trying to learn something new.
 

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hombre_de_plata_flaco said:
mts said:
You didn't happen to get any of the "privy" coins in that set did you? The odds are that you didn't but you should check to be sure. They are worth more than the standard ones.

I've only been collecting coins/hoarding silver for about two years so I am unfamiliar with this term "privy". Please explain and I will be certain to check. Thanks for the heads up and info regardless. I am always trying to learn something new.

Actually, the 95 96 and 97 have low mintages and sometimes bring in a bit more too. Certain years have "privy" marks on the back. Some aren't really worth much more but some are. It all depends on who is buying. Some coin dealers don't seem to care about them, but collectors do.

Jim
 

Re: Silver Manipulation? You don't say! How low exactly can it go?

I just googled the privy marks and one of the coins has one. The 1999-2000 "Double Date" coin has a small fireworks privy mark near the stem of the Maple Leaf.

Thanks for the info and my apologies for the derailment of this thread.
 

Re: Silver Manipulation? You don't say! How low exactly can it go?

hombre_de_plata_flaco said:
I just googled the privy marks and one of the coins has one. The 1999-2000 "Double Date" coin has a small fireworks privy mark near the stem of the Maple Leaf.

Thanks for the info and my apologies for the derailment of this thread.

The 1999-2000 with privy mark is only worth a couple of dollars more because it had a relatively high mintage. If you look at APMEX you can see some of the pricing differences between privy vs. standard coins. For example, the 2000 with a dragon privy has a mintage of only 25,000 and is being sold for about $110 compared to a standard 2000 without privy mark that sells for about $45.

But hold onto that 1999-2000. It is worth a little more and will only continue to go up in value compared to the others (even if only by a little bit).

Enjoy!
 

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