Season 9

[Charlie P. (NY)]

When you look at where garnets are found it doesn't follow that it came to North America from Europe. Rhondolite Garnet was first described in a sample from North Carolina!

 

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[gazzahk]

They are also not really "treasure" https://www.theraregemstonecompany.com/rhodolite-garnet-gemstone-5-to-10-carat-collection . They are just a semi precious stone. More costume jewelry rather than an actual precious gemstone.

This was much more likely to have been dropped by a resident of OI rather then someone hiding treasure. These Gems are not really worth the effort of hiding.

They become common in costume jewelry in 19th Century

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Hardly something the Knights Templar's would of been hiding when fleeing France in the 1300s

 

[MikeN]

This was much more likely to have been dropped by a resident of OI rather then someone hiding treasure. These Gems are not really worth the effort of hiding.

They become common in costume jewelry in 19th Century

The age of the garnet is a consideration - the relative value to other common baubles at the time. It's not something worn by a farmer walking behind a team of oxen.

Hardly something the Knights Templar's would of been hiding when fleeing France in the 1300s

But could have been part of Captain Kidd's collection.

 

[MikeN]

A simple history quiz about Oak Island, with a Season 9 preview if you get them all correct: The Curse of Oak Island Trivia Quiz

 

[franklin]

A simple history quiz about Oak Island, with a Season 9 preview if you get them all correct: The Curse of Oak Island Trivia Quiz

I took the Trivia Quiz. Made Expert. The preview just shows them sending off samples like last season when they tested for silver. This time out of 20 samples they said it showed Gold. Of course it does there is gold all around Oak Island. To the North is Gold River. And gold has been found East and West so of course there is gold under Oak Island.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

The age of the garnet is a consideration - the relative value to other common baubles at the time. It's not something worn by a farmer walking behind a team of oxen.



But could have been part of Captain Kidd's collection.

You know who liked garnets some time back? The Norse and Scots. They called them "The Warrior Stone" because of the blood color. Now, we know the Norse were in that area 1,000 years ago (Look at all the garnets in the Sutton Hoo treasure horde), and the Scots came in the 17th Century. And a nice kilt broach or sporran ornament it would make. Or dropped by a tourist more recently. It was a "surface" find.

We don't need to make up history.

 

[franklin]

You know who liked garnets some time back? The Norse and Scots. They called them "The Warrior Stone" because of the blood color. Now, we know the Norse were in that area 1,000 years ago (Look at all the garnets in the Sutton Hoo treasure horde), and the Scots came in the 17th Century. And a nice kilt broach or sporran ornament it would make. Or dropped by a tourist more recently. It was a "surface" find.

We don't need to make up history.

The Scots came between 1307 and 1353. The Welsh came in 562, 572.

 

[gazzahk]

There we go! It is in the press so must be true.... This season will have them find treasure as they now know where to dig....

The Curse of Oak Island Season 8 ends with the Laginas getting closer to the exact area of the money pit. They are convinced that their theories are working right. It seems The Curse of Oak Island Season 9 will show the Laginas finally discovering the buried treasure.

https://www.devdiscourse.com/articl...ill-the-laginas-find-gold-treasures-this-time

 

[gazzahk]

As we can see from this map of the Laginas from season 6 there are so many places left to dig

 

[franklin]

Other searchers knew exactly where the Money Pit was located. Yet their excavations came up with nothing but mud and wood. It will be the same with Season 9. Filming Season 9 is already over with and the show is to begin. Yet nothing in the NEWS. They will find nothing. Just rumors to get everyone to Season 10.

 

[gazzahk]

Other searchers knew exactly where the Money Pit was located. Yet their excavations came up with nothing but mud and wood. It will be the same with Season 9. Filming Season 9 is already over with and the show is to begin. Yet nothing in the NEWS. They will find nothing. Just rumors to get everyone to Season 10.

It is amazing that they can still put forward the argument that the only reason that treasure has not been found is that no one has dug the right place yet. But as shown from that diagram (Their own diagram) every single bit of the area near where the pit was meant to be located has been dug. All that has been found is remnants of earlier searches and natural underground caverns full of sea water.

The proposition that a huge treasure hoard can still exist but has just not been found yet is so not plausible as to be absurd.

The first two episodes are called

"Hold on to Your Seat"
Going for the Gold

I wonder if they will still be able to top the ratings? The lack of interest in this forum does not seem to bode well for that....

 

[n2mini]

The forum has died back some because in the last few years everything that is talked about seems to end up as an argument some how.. We have what I call the "believers" and the "nay-sayers".. Both believe what they believe for whatever reason.. As we've all seen/learned that info on some of the topics is all over the place, this map shows this that or the other while another is completely different. Written stories dated here say this, another says that but wasn't written about till years later so must be false.. etc etc.. Sooooooo, alot of people on here just quit posting. They probably come in and read along but just don't post.. Especially when most of the people who do post now seem to hate the show, yet some of them still watch it apparently just to come in here and bad mouth it...

 

[MikeN]

As we can see from this map of the Laginas from season 6 there are so many places left to dig

And so many new theories to generate! The big reveal from last night's review program was that the ship's railing was carbon dated to 660-770AD. Tested and retested with consistent results.

So... they can't flog the Templar theory for that item since it predates the founding of the Templars. And it predates the reign of the Spanish Galleon on the seas. They'll have to divert to Vikings or the Chinese. After all, the Chinese invented gunpowder in 700AD and there was that Chinese coin they found...

 

[franklin]

And so many new theories to generate! The big reveal from last night's review program was that the ship's railing was carbon dated to 660-770AD. Tested and retested with consistent results.

So... they can't flog the Templar theory for that item since it predates the founding of the Templars. And it predates the reign of the Spanish Galleon on the seas. They'll have to divert to Vikings or the Chinese. After all, the Chinese invented gunpowder in 700AD and there was that Chinese coin they found...

If I remember correctly wood floats. With all the tropical storms coming off of the coast of Africa across the Atlantic and up the Eastern Seaboard, wood arriving from 600 to 700AD is very possible. We all know what hurricanes can do. Wood drifting into the Swamp area of Oak Island is very possible.

 

[MikeN]

If I remember correctly, coins do not float - so there's still the issue of how the Chinese coin came to be on the island.

 

[franklin]

If I remember correctly, coins do not float - so there's still the issue of how the Chinese coin came to be on the island.

Chinese coins are found by metal detectorist every day. Especially around worked out mines, tunnels or railroads. Any tourist over the years could have tossed out a few coins around Oak Island.

 

[gazzahk]

It is a problem that they assume anything that they find on the Island is related to the possibility of hidden treasure. Yet there is so much evidence of habitation on OI for hundreds of years. This would mean many artifacts from people that have visited/lived on OI over the centuries.

A quick search on Chinese coins found in Nova Scotia in Canada shows that many have been found in different locations around Canada. I have 'ancient' Chinese coins at home that I purchased when I was in China. They are quite cheap to buy.

In relation to the age of the plank. The carbon dating shows when the tree was cut down not when the wood was used to make a plank. I would be interested in if they could place the origin of where the tree was thought to have come from. Still it does little to support the money pit idea as all the construction work they have found (Smith Cove) is from around 1750ish. If timber come from a 1000 years earlier then this has no known relationship to any even alleged hidden treasure in the money pit, flood tunnels etc.

An interesting find if they truly have a piece of wood from a ship built in 660-770AD I would guess that would support Vikings having also visited the area around OI. Assuming if as pointed out by Franklin it is simply not a piece of washed up driftwood.

 

[Yang Hao]

They'll have to divert to Vikings or the Chinese. After all, the Chinese invented gunpowder in 700AD and there was that Chinese coin they found...

Most Chinese coins found metal detecting in Canada are from the Qing dynasty (1644-1912) There was a case of a Ming dynasty coin (1368 - 1644) found in the Yukon in the 1990s but it was most likely brought to Canada at a later date.

If a coin from an earlier dynasty like Tang or Song was dug up in Canada that would be a story and an exciting mystery to solve.

 

[MikeN]

An interesting find if they truly have a piece of wood from a ship built in 660-770AD I would guess that would support Vikings having also visited the area around OI. Assuming if as pointed out by Franklin it is simply not a piece of washed up driftwood.

If the seismic pattern in the swamp is a Viking ship that matches the date of the wood fragment, it could have been washed up if it was a funeral ship set afloat - it drifted across the Atlantic and washed ashore at Oak Island.

 

[franklin]

If the seismic pattern in the swamp is a Viking ship that matches the date of the wood fragment, it could have been washed up if it was a funeral ship set afloat - it drifted across the Atlantic and washed ashore at Oak Island.
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That was nothing but hard dirt and rock showing up on their instruments. No ship.