Season 7 - The story goes on...

[lokiblossom]

I wondered about their plans for "the big dig" - lining the walls of a large excavation with concrete to prevent the intrusion of water?..but the water percolates up from the bottom of the hole - as seen in the several cans they have sunk. Putting in a "floor" would keep out the water - and prevent digging.

The water percolates equally from the bottom and the sides. There being more area on the sides, it would be much more advantages to line the sides of the excavation!
Cheers, Loki

 

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[DaveVanP]

This water intrusion would not be "seepage". It would be a FLOW of water, increasing with depth. As the excavation deepened, the upward pressure of the water coming up would essentially make the bottom quicksand. They would have nothing to support themselves, or any digging equipment.

 

[lokiblossom]

This water intrusion would not be "seepage". It would be a FLOW of water, increasing with depth. As the excavation deepened, the upward pressure of the water coming up would essentially make the bottom quicksand. They would have nothing to support themselves, or any digging equipment.

Ha, a different reason for putting in a floor!

Cheers, Loki

 

[gazzahk]

Well that finished with a fizzle...

The whole season they found nothing even remotely treasure related. All those things they had on the timeline are just being supported by massive assumptions about their age. Like the lead cross/sinker.

It has been shown without any doubt that no treasure exists in all the holes they have dug. The whole area has been dug with both big and small pipes and they have found nothing. It would just be crazy to spend $10 million Plus dollars to dig a big hole. It would also be very boring TV.

It must also mean they found nothing of interest at Samuel Balls house.

I still do not understand why having a date the swamp was formed means it was man made. Surely it is more plausible that it formed naturally.

A very poor season of TV is my review.

I would think that it the end of oak island exploration for quite a while....

I have really enjoyed chatting with all you guys/gals here on the forum. This has been the best bit of watching the show...

 

[ECS]

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The whole season they found nothing even remotely treasure related. All those things they had on the timeline are just being supported by massive assumptions about their age. Like the lead cross/sinker ...

Not even a tiny sample of Loki's oft mention Templar coconut coir.

 

[MikeN]

Heard a Jay Towers interview of Rick & Marty from yesterday. They said that normally the weather on Oak Island would have allowed them to be out working there for a month already by this time. And they don't know yet if any work can be done in 2020.https://www.facebook.com/JayTowersInTheMorning/videos/2620695414836868

 

[TheHarleyMan2]

What I find odd is that Rick? dropped his coin down the drill hole and miraculously happens to be found in some diggings that were pulled dug up later? I mean what is the odds of finding the same coin you dropped in a drill hole and it being pulled up from another casing hole in a bunch of gravel? I call it salted!

Like ALL treasure shows they will NEVER find the treasure! Why? Big Grabberment will come in a take it, that is the reason there is never any treasures found especially ON CAMERA! If someone says I am wrong, you point me to one treasure show where they actually found, recovered and showed treasure as it was being pulled out!

You know it's ALWAYS FUNNY how the camera guy ALWAYS has the camera partially out of the ground view on the OPPOSITE side of the metal detecting dig, (where you can't see the ground being dug), and low and behold, an old ring, a broach, a whatever it is), Yeah I know the timber they pulled they found spikes, etc. That's a given!

Why is it always when they are digging the camera is always pointing out of view away from the ground at the moment when they find something? I say salted! Just my opinion! The camera guys can always be on the side or at a profile where the "actor" is digging and find his low and behold ring, coin, etc. he pulls it out of the ground! The camera guys never show the ground when digging on spot! Heck I can do a better job of getting the "actor" and digging spot all in one view where we can all see where it came form! JMHO!

To me they are all on TV just for entertainment and that's it.

 

[gazzahk]

that is the reason there is never any treasures found especially ON CAMERA! If someone says I am wrong, you point me to one treasure show where they actually found, recovered and showed treasure as it was being pulled out!

There has been a few TV shows that have shown treasure recovered from shipwreck such as "Billion Dollar Wreck Hunt".

Treasure quest Snake island found a gold Inca Sun Mask

Here are some great treasure finds (Not TV shows) https://www.thetravel.com/20-times-treasure-hunters-made-the-discovery-of-a-lifetime/

But yep for the most part you are correct. By the time TV crews role up any treasure is long gone...

 

[MikeN]

What I find odd is that Rick? dropped his coin down the drill hole and miraculously happens to be found in some diggings that were pulled dug up later? I mean what is the odds of finding the same coin you dropped in a drill hole and it being pulled up from another casing hole in a bunch of gravel? I call it salted!

Any of the finds could have been setups or fakes, but one possibility is that it's not clear that all holes are perfectly straight and vertical as they go down. So it's possible that the 2 holes were inches apart or even in the same location by the time they got down 200 feet.

 

[n2mini]

The hole he dropped the coin is was only about 6'' so that drill bit could have moved some as you said by the time they got down to 200' or however deep it was. Those big 60' caseons would not be moving much if at all on it's way down which is my understanding that is where the coin was found in the spoils of the hammer grab. So that being said assuming this story is true that coin did move way more then a few inches. I highly doubt that the 6'' drill hole would have been that far off at depth.. The coin was found in a hole 10' away supposedly..
Did read earlier today else where that Anthony Vaughn was Samuel Balls' executor of his will... and that he most likely did not move to the island till the early 1800's and up till that time no one lived on the island. Sure people owned property there but no one lived there yet.. and over the years very few people ever did live in the island..

 

[franklin]

The hole he dropped the coin is was only about 6'' so that drill bit could have moved some as you said by the time they got down to 200' or however deep it was. Those big 60' caseons would not be moving much if at all on it's way down which is my understanding that is where the coin was found in the spoils of the hammer grab. So that being said assuming this story is true that coin did move way more then a few inches. I highly doubt that the 6'' drill hole would have been that far off at depth.. The coin was found in a hole 10' away supposedly..
Did read earlier today else where that Anthony Vaughn was Samuel Balls' executor of his will... and that he most likely did not move to the island till the early 1800's and up till that time no one lived on the island. Sure people owned property there but no one lived there yet.. and over the years very few people ever did live in the island..

Here is the genealogy of Samuel Ball, Sr. and his son Samuel Ball Jr. that owned the cabbage farm on Oak Island. Samuel Ball Sr. was in on the recovery of treasure from Oak Island before the Revolutionary War. He was a blacksmith and wagon master. He and another were holding the two wagons on shore waiting for the treasures to be recovered. Sr. knew one of the treasures was recovered and that the other treasure was left due to water. Whether he knew the actual location of the treasure and where it was buried is not known. If he did know he could have passed the location to his son, Samuel Ball Jr. Since Samuel Ball Jr., Vaughn, McGinnis and Smith were digging on the East End of Oak Island and the treasure was buried on the West End of Oak Island, I do not believe they recovered the treasure. Would have been very difficult for four families to keep such a secret but not impossible. As you can see by the article. Though Samuel Ball Jr. had a house on Oak Island and gardened, his family never did live on Oak Island.

 

[n2mini]

but might would have made sense for Vaughn to have been his executor to be able to keep his finances secret from others if he/they did find a treasure

 

[TheHarleyMan2]

View attachment 1829235Here is the genealogy of Samuel Ball, Sr. and his son Samuel Ball Jr. that owned the cabbage farm on Oak Island. Samuel Ball Sr. was in on the recovery of treasure from Oak Island before the Revolutionary War. He was a blacksmith and wagon master. He and another were holding the two wagons on shore waiting for the treasures to be recovered. Sr. knew one of the treasures was recovered and that the other treasure was left due to water. Whether he knew the actual location of the treasure and where it was buried is not known. If he did know he could have passed the location to his son, Samuel Ball Jr. Since Samuel Ball Jr., Vaughn, McGinnis and Smith were digging on the East End of Oak Island and the treasure was buried on the West End of Oak Island, I do not believe they recovered the treasure. Would have been very difficult for four families to keep such a secret but not impossible. As you can see by the article. Though Samuel Ball Jr. had a house on Oak Island and gardened, his family never did live on Oak Island.

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[franklin]

Very possible the treasure was already recovered. They assume it hasn't because "there's no record of anyone suddenly becoming rich". All I'm saying is that if I had recovered it, I'd make sure there was never any record that would indicate that. But I hope that's not the case. Hopefully they finally hit something with the multi ten million dollar big dig. Should be interesting to watch anyway. What else do we have to do these days?

There were two treasures on Oak Island from the Knights Templar in 1398. One was recovered for the American Revolution. The other was left due to water. They vowed to go back and recover the treasure at a later date. The War intervened but they are known to keep their word. Samuel Ball Sr. was in on the recovery of the treasures but he did not go on Oak Island. Sr. could have told his son that there was a treasure on Oak Island but he may not have known the exact location. Then in the mean time the Freemasons could have came back and got the treasure. But the treasure was not on the East End of Oak Island it was on the West End. If you notice from maps the West End had deep enough water for a ship but not so much on the East End. The sawmill was built on the West End because of the water depth and closeness to shoreline.

 

[ECS]

There were two treasures on Oak Island from the Knights Templar in 1398. One was recovered for the American Revolution. The other was left due to water. They vowed to go back and recover the treasure at a later date...

What about the Oak Island treasure you claimed was recovered by the Pilgrims in 1620, including by an ancestor of Founding Father John Adams?
Where is the documented evidence of the Founding Fathers of removing this alleged treasure before the Revolution, what was this treasure, who were they, and what became of this "treasure"?
You keep posting this same information as if it were established fact as if only you possess this long hidden information.
If there is an actual legitimate source for this story, please cite it, once and for all.

 

[franklin]

What about the Oak Island treasure you claimed was recovered by the Pilgrims in 1620, including by an ancestor of Founding Father John Adams?
Where is the documented evidence of the Founding Fathers of removing this alleged treasure before the Revolution, what was this treasure, who were they, and what became of this "treasure"?
You keep posting this same information as if it were established fact as if only you possess this long hidden information.
If there is an actual legitimate source for this story, please cite it, once and for all.

I wish you would post a question to the entire post for which it was intended instead of picking out portions and asking stupid questions. When someone gives you good information you start pulling out your law books. You know what to ---- with you and your questions.

 

[ECS]

If it is "good information", Franklin, why are you so reluctant to cite your sources when questions arise concerning their validity?
'Nuff SAID!

 

[TheHarleyMan2]

There has been a few TV shows that have shown treasure recovered from shipwreck such as "Billion Dollar Wreck Hunt".

Treasure quest Snake island found a gold Inca Sun Mask

Here are some great treasure finds (Not TV shows) https://www.thetravel.com/20-times-treasure-hunters-made-the-discovery-of-a-lifetime/

But yep for the most part you are correct. By the time TV crews role up any treasure is long gone...

I know about the ones found in the ocean, that would be hard to just up and take for the average person, plus the ocean is a big wide geographic area. I hadn't heard about the Inca Sun mask. I must have missed that one and didn't see it! For the most part any supposedly hidden treasures on land is pretty much long gone or nill! Now Victorio Peak, I believe that one, (but that one wasn't on TV yet when Doc found it), and I think we all can come to the conclusion who stole it!

Yeah the treasure TV series are interesting to watch but even if anything was found, (I doubt it would be), it would be filmed evidence for the Grabberment to steal it from them!

If I had the funding, I would do my own TV series show and go search for old outlaw robberies, loot, and their supposedly hideouts stories, fact or fiction?

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

I think the History Channel has to take a long, hard look at it's programming and either change the scope of the work they accept or change the name of the channel.

 

[auximenes]

In the meantime, they discover a tunnel coming from the Samuel Ball foundation. I don't know what to make of that; who would build such a tunnel for any purpose? A drain is the first thing that comes to mind, but there would be no reason for such a drain.

I was expecting there to be some discussion of that in the last episode, but, not a word. That was actually one of the more interesting things they'd 'found' this season.