cactusjumper
Gold Member
Roy and Azhiker,
Most of our searches take place well after dark. Not many hikers are pounding around in the desert after dark, so the chances of them stumbling across our victim are slim to non-existent. In situations where the victim is truly lost, we usually find them. We don't quit easily, because we owe them our best effort, as well a the families.
We pay for our own equipment, except for radios (I paid for my own) and are on call 24 hours a day and 365 days a year. Not many hikers are making that kind of commitment to finding people in bad situations. Sometimes they are not lost, but have been murdered. We don't know that until we find the body.
The last search involved looking for a man who was a double murderer, except we didn't know it. The last thing we want is some innocent person walking up on someone who just hacked his last victim into a number of pieces and left the body parts here and there. That makes us a little reluctant to ask someone like Beth, for help.
Tracking someone in the mountains or across snow is nothing like finding tracks at night in the desert. I don't believe there is anything that compares to man tracking in the desert. Over 600 searches a year take place in Arizona alone. Are you saying that 300 of them end in failure? What do you consider failure?
I will say this once again. The Sheriff's Office can't ask civilians to participate in searches, other than trained SAR personal, and we are sworn in as deputies every year. The Sheriff's SAR operates under the control of the State. Each member of the search team must have basic training, and be insured. They will ask for advise, if they need information on the victim or an unknown or unfamiliar area.
Beth,
Your threats are uncalled for. Do whatever you wish.
I believe I will step back out of this conversation.
Joe Ribaudo
Most of our searches take place well after dark. Not many hikers are pounding around in the desert after dark, so the chances of them stumbling across our victim are slim to non-existent. In situations where the victim is truly lost, we usually find them. We don't quit easily, because we owe them our best effort, as well a the families.
We pay for our own equipment, except for radios (I paid for my own) and are on call 24 hours a day and 365 days a year. Not many hikers are making that kind of commitment to finding people in bad situations. Sometimes they are not lost, but have been murdered. We don't know that until we find the body.
The last search involved looking for a man who was a double murderer, except we didn't know it. The last thing we want is some innocent person walking up on someone who just hacked his last victim into a number of pieces and left the body parts here and there. That makes us a little reluctant to ask someone like Beth, for help.
Tracking someone in the mountains or across snow is nothing like finding tracks at night in the desert. I don't believe there is anything that compares to man tracking in the desert. Over 600 searches a year take place in Arizona alone. Are you saying that 300 of them end in failure? What do you consider failure?
I will say this once again. The Sheriff's Office can't ask civilians to participate in searches, other than trained SAR personal, and we are sworn in as deputies every year. The Sheriff's SAR operates under the control of the State. Each member of the search team must have basic training, and be insured. They will ask for advise, if they need information on the victim or an unknown or unfamiliar area.
Beth,
Your threats are uncalled for. Do whatever you wish.
I believe I will step back out of this conversation.
Joe Ribaudo
