Ryedale question

[MIhunter]

After you have seperated the zinc from the copper how do you seperate the wheats from the canadian from the lincoln memorials?

 

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[jrf30]

I always run the zinc pile back through with a zinc penny as the comparison and check the reject side. Always a few wheats there.

But in the same time that you would run the zinc side through a second time, you could be running raw cents through (A new box) You will get 10 more wheats from the new box instead of getting that 1 wheat you might find on the zinc side. Just not worth the second pass. If you only had one box, sure, why not. But since the supply of new cents is endless, it still makes sense to watch the zinc (reject) side while sorting the first time, grab the cents that come out on that side that are real dark and check them quickly AS you sort, and then NOT go through the zinc side again (Which would be 85% of the box again, for my boxes) but do a NEW box, and get MORE wheats than doing the same box a second time.

Make sense?

 

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[fjer]

But in the same time that you would run the zinc side through a second time, you could be running raw cents through (A new box) You will get 10 more wheats from the new box instead of getting that 1 wheat you might find on the zinc side. Just not worth the second pass. If you only had one box, sure, why not. But since the supply of new cents is endless, it still makes sense to watch the zinc (reject) side while sorting the first time, grab the cents that come out on that side that are real dark and check them quickly AS you sort, and then NOT go through the zinc side again (Which would be 85% of the box again, for my boxes) but do a NEW box, and get MORE wheats than doing the same box a second time.

Make sense?

Sure, but then you have to sit and stare at the coins as they run. I generally do something else while the machine is running (close enough that I can quickly get to it and clear a jam if I hear it). I also usually only have a bag ($50) or two at a time, so my issue is time to do other stuff, not time to do more coins.

 

[sagittarius98]

But in the same time that you would run the zinc side through a second time, you could be running raw cents through (A new box) You will get 10 more wheats from the new box instead of getting that 1 wheat you might find on the zinc side. Just not worth the second pass. If you only had one box, sure, why not. But since the supply of new cents is endless, it still makes sense to watch the zinc (reject) side while sorting the first time, grab the cents that come out on that side that are real dark and check them quickly AS you sort, and then NOT go through the zinc side again (Which would be 85% of the box again, for my boxes) but do a NEW box, and get MORE wheats than doing the same box a second time.

Make sense?

I would rather have one 1909-S VDB wheat cent than 10 common date ones. Just my opinion.

 

[Joe777Cool]

Sort with a zinc cent in the comparator first and then whatever is rejected is not zinc. Then sort the rejects with a brass cent in the comparator and whatever is rejected is not brass. Then hand-sort the rejects and look through the brass (accepted) cents for brass or almost-brass Wheat cents (1944-58) and Canadian cents (1996 and before). The rejects from the brass pass should contain bronze cents, including Wheat cents from 1909-1942 and some Lincoln memorials from later years which you can put back with the accepted brass cents by hand. There may also be Indian head cents, dimes, steel Canadian cents (1997-2012), steel U.S. cents (1943), Euro 2 cent pieces, cents from the Bahamas, Bermuda, etc., corroded zinc cents, and other anomalies in the rejects from the brass pass.



I keep the sensitivity dial turned up a bit on both passes, since that should raise the bar for what is accepted and cause more coins to be rejected. I've seen the Ryedale make mistakes a few times, usually bronze wheat cents being accepted as zinc in the initial pass, but this is rare. I've never seen it miss an Indian head this way.

Brass U.S. cents are 95% copper, 5% zinc and bronze cents are 95% copper and a mixture of zinc and tin for the remaining 5%, usually.

ok so on the second pass, I am trying to weed out older wheats, foreign, and other misc from the newer wheats and 95% copper Lincoln Memorials. I tried using a 95% lincoln memorial and nothing sorted. wheats, foreign, copper - everything went into the same bin.

should I be using a 1909-1946 penny as the comparitor? Im not worried about the newer wheat, if I miss a few mixed in with the 59-82 LM's Im ok with that.

 

[Coppercrazy]

It is much faster to look through cents that have been (mostly) sorted than to sort all of them by hand...

I would agree, but it isn't too much longer for me. It takes me about 25-30 minutes to sort through a box of cents by hand and that includes looking for WAMs and CAMs, culling copper, and pulling all wheats. Plus then I can keep the Canadian coppers separate from the US coppers. I don't think I'll ever go RyeDale too pricey and wouldn't have found the brockage errors and my 1999 WAM. What does it take to do a box with the ryedale? 5-10 minutes? It just isn't worth it to me. It would kill a lot of the fun, and that's why I do it mostly. But you know as others have said to each his own. I just find it hard to see how feeding cents into the Ryedale would be fun.

 

[FormerTeller]

I "sandwich" a layer of coppers between a couple of 12" x 12" pieces of plastic (polycarbonate I think), clamp the plastic together with three small spring clamps, scan the reverse of the cents, flip the clamped plastic, and scan the reverses again. This is an easy way for me to scan 75-100 cents at a time. The thin plastic is from the window department at Menards building supply.

I toyed with this idea, but never put it into practice. Glad to hear that it works.