Rebellion: South Carolina to Outlaw Obamacare in Their State

[Treasure_Hunter]

Just the other day we reported that doctors and hospitals are rejecting Obamacareacross the country and it seems the states are beginning to follow suit. South Carolina is poised to pass a bill that**Obamacare*in their state.

The bill’s original sponsor, State Senator Tom Davis, says “the proposed legislation renders the Affordable Care Act void or inoperable through a handful of provisions,” all which are “legal, effective, and within the state’s power to do.”

The core of the “South Carolina Freedom of Heath Care Protection Act” (HB3101) outlaws any state employees, officers, or agencies from implementing Obamacare. The federal government can try to subject South Carolinians to the horrors of the ACA– but they would have no personnel or funds in the state to actually carry it out. Obamacare would be nothing more than a ghost.

Davis says this component stems from the Supreme Court case of Printz v. United States:

What the Supreme Court said ... is that*; they are sovereign entities. Congress can pass laws, but it cannot compel the states to utilize either their treasury or personnel to implement those federal laws.

The state Senate’s vote on the bill will take place in January; it already soared through the state’s House with a 65-34 vote last April.

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The bill now heads to the GOP-controlled Senate with special-order priority, setting up the likelihood that*.

The bill would also outlaw the creation of any state exchanges as well as providing tax deductions to offset the penalties from the federal government for not participating in Obamacare. This would effectively render Obamacare null and void in South Carolina.

If this is successful – and there is plenty of reason to believe it will be – it could very well be a model for other states to follow.

“I think it is a mistake to try to make what has traditionally been a state issue into a national issue,” Obama said in regards to gay marriage last year; however, I expect he will conveniently abandon his shaky support of states’ rights in an effort to combat this. It is his “legacy,” after all.

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[Old Bookaroo]

Public rips proposed Obamacare nullification bill at North Charleston hearing
'The idea of nullification is terrifying to me'
Posted by Corey Hutchins on Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:52 AM

One by one, for more than three hours last night, members of the public let a panel of state senators know exactly how they feel about a bill that would nullify the Affordable Care Act in South Carolina.

“Yet again, South Carolina reaches for the bottom,” said Gwen Robinson, a Mt. Pleasant attorney. “This is stupid.”

Robinson was one of more than a dozen South Carolinians ranging from teachers, doctors, ex-military, law students, healthcare workers, political operatives and former lawmakers who showed up to the North Charleston City Hall, speaking to five senators — three Republicans and two Democrats — about the S.C. Freedom of Healthcare Protection Act, a bill that seeks to “render null and void certain unconstitutional laws enacted by the Congress of the United States taking control of the healthcare insurance industry and mandating that individuals purchase health insurance under the threat of penalty.”

Last session, the nullification bill passed the S.C. House, and it’s been fast-tracked for special order in the Senate. That means lawmakers will take it up quickly for debate when they return to Columbia in January. Because of the bill’s polarizing and controversial nature, S.C. Senate President Pro Tem John Courson, a Columbia Republican, tasked a bi-partisan committee of senators to hold hearings on it throughout the state and gather public input. The dominant message those senators heard last night in North Charleston was that such a symbolic measure is embarrassing for state residents, and lawmakers should spend their time and state resources on more serious matters.
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Lawmakers, though, quibbled with whether the legislation was a true nullification bill, the kind of law that harkens back to the spirit of former vice president and South Carolinian John C. Calhoun, who was known as the Great Nullifier. One statue of his likeness looms over downtown Charleston in Marion Square, and another is the centerpiece of the State House lobby in Columbia.

Tom Davis, a Beaufort lawyer and state senator revered by the state’s Tea Party movement, led the North Charleston hearing. Davis doesn’t think President Barack Obama’s signature domestic policy is in the best interest of South Carolina, and he supports measures in the nullification bill that would ban federal subsidies for health exchanges operating within the state’s borders and prohibit state resources from being used to implement Obamacare. He also supports provisions that would request the state attorney general to fight the ACA in federal court, and give state residents a tax exemption for any federal fine or penalty they might incur for not buying health insurance.

Responding to that, Sumter Democratic Sen. Thomas McElveen, also on the panel, said, “The end result of this bill’s passage would be the nullification of Obamacare,” an opinion shared by his Democratic colleague, Sen. Kevin Johnson. McElveen wondered if their time might be better spent working on how to fix the state’s crumbing roads and bridges and passing ethics and tax reform.

The state’s history with nullification wasn’t lost on a recent law school graduate named Andrew Patterson. He noted how it was this month in Charleston in 1832 when delegates at a state convention approved an Ordinance of Nullification making it illegal to enforce certain tariffs within the Palmetto State. That move sparked what became known as the Nullification Crisis, which at the time laid the groundwork for secession.

“You can call this bill what you want,” Patterson told the lawmakers at the hearing last night. “But essentially it is gutting [a federal law] … the idea of nullification is terrifying to me.”

The three-and-a-half hours were dedicated to about 15 people who spoke out on the bill, a majority of whom were bitterly opposed to it, including 30-year-old law school student John Gentry, who said, “I’m a Republican, I’m conservative, but I’m against this law.”
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Public rips proposed Obamacare nullification bill at North Charleston hearing | The Battery | Charleston City Paper

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Look it up book, it is completely legal and already ruled on by Supreme Court. ...

Supreme Court case of Printz v. United States:

Justice Antonin Scalia wrote the majority opinion. He stated that early federal statutes did not suggest that Congress thought it had the power to direct the actions of State executive officials. Also, the overall structure of the Constitution implies that Congress may not direct State officials:

“The Framers explicitly chose a Constitution that confers upon Congress the power to regulate individuals, not States.” Finally, although it is the President's job under the Constitution to oversee execution of federal laws, “

Synopsis of Rule of Law.*

Congress may not compel a state or local government to implement federal regulatory programs, even if they are temporary functions.

Read more:*Printz v. United States (1997)*http://www.infoplease.com/us/supreme-court/cases/ar31.html#ixzz2n8XAj9UL

 

[NHBandit]

Spin it any way you please Old Bookaroo. It dosn't change the fact that ALOT of people are clearly sick & tired of the government trying to take over every aspect of their lives. Just saw on one of the mainstream media tv stations tonight that even though Obama is slightly back up in the polls 51% still have an issue with his credibility. Translation... more than HALF the country think he's a liar. You like calling people a liar. Those are no numbers to be proud of.

 

[Chadeaux]

South Carolina ... nice state, and apparently a conscientious one as well. Wonder what the unemployment opportunities are there?

 

[Dave44]

Sounds like a good start to me! hope this idea is infectious. I think it is too late for Virginia though.

 

[NHBandit]

It's a start even if it dosn't go anywhere. It puts them on notice that people are waking up. Tennessee is considering laws that would prevent the federal government from coming here trying to enforce unconstitutional gun laws. They may have passed some already. They already don't support the federal background check and have a state run process instead.

 

[NHBandit]

Sounds like a good start to me! hope this idea is infectious. I think it is too late for Virginia though.

I live fairly close to the VA border. You obviously know more about the state than I do since you live there but my observation is that VA is really 2 separate states as far as how people think. South West VA near me is much different than those poor souls who live near DC. Do you agree or am I missing something ?

 

[Dave44]

Our problem is that we are a little too close to the major problem.
Arlington bar codes examined for vote problems in Virginia - Washington Times
This article points out what is sure to be a huge problem in this state in the long run.

And then this too.
Exclusive: Libertarian PAC Admits 'We Probably Wouldn't Have Spent $11,000 on Sarvis' Without Democratic Donor

 

[Dave44]

I live fairly close to the VA border. You obviously know more about the state than I do since you live there but my observation is that VA is really 2 separate states as far as how people think. South West VA near me is much different than those poor souls who live near DC. Do you agree or am I missing something ?

Agree, but the most populated areas are very invested and infected by the progressives, dragging us with them.

 

[Native Floridian]

Par for the course! South Carolina has a history of not caring much about health care. And it shows! The state has 20% less physicians per capita then the national average. (that means they are below average). And, their infant mortality rate is almost 40% above the national average. I know with you guys it's all about the money, but there is another price to pay when you are too cheap to ante up.

Shame for the people who live there.

Wonder how many of those babies would have lived had they been born in NH, or NJ?

 

[Dave44]

Par for the course! South Carolina has a history of not caring much about health care. And it shows! The state has 20% less physicians per capita then the national average. (that means they are below average). And, their infant mortality rate is almost 40% above the national average. I know with you guys it's all about the money, but there is another price to pay when you are too cheap to ante up.

Shame for the people who live there.



Wonder how many of those babies would have lived had they been born in NH, or NJ?

OOOOH I can't wait to see how you try to spin this into something that loosely resembles facts.. Has the state come on out and stated,, "We Hate Health Care"? " and babies" Or some such?

Wow,, disinformation this ingenious must have come straight from Think Progress or other Marxist site?

 

[austin]

Ok. I officially support nullification now after blasting it for years. Good for South Carolina, John C. Calhoun lives. "We are a band of brothers, and Native to the soil, Fighting for the property, We gained by honest toil. And when our rights were threatened, The cry rose near and far, Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag, That bears a single star. Hurrah, hurrah, for southern(and obviously human) rights hurrah. Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag, that bears a single star"...

 

[jerseyben]

If SC wanted to succeed tomorrow I would say: "Take care"!

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Par for the course! South Carolina has a history of not caring much about health care. And it shows! The state has 20% less physicians per capita then the national average. (that means they are below average). And, their infant mortality rate is almost 40% above the national average. I know with you guys it's all about the money, but there is another price to pay when you are too cheap to ante up.

Shame for the people who live there.

Wonder how many of those babies would have lived had they been born in NH, or NJ?

How many physicians per capita do you think there would be after lucifercare? Many Doctors and hospitals are opting out or will only except a few of the insurance companies.

Lucifercare becomes a bigger nightmare day by day between the intentional lies told by lucifer and truths coming out on the true cost to Americans citizens it is like a plague that is growing.

South Carolina is with in their rights..... Hopefully more states follow suit.



We will NOT go quietly into the night!

 

[Native Floridian]

If SC wanted to succeed tomorrow I would say: "Take care"!

Yeah, don't let the door hit you on the way out!

 

[Dave44]

Yeah, don't let the door hit you on the way out!

That's funny, it's what most of the country says about half of NJ, and other psycho strongholds!

 

[Old Bookaroo]

Treasure Hunter:

How can doctors and/or hospitals "opt out" of the Affordable Care Act?

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

 

[Dave44]

Treasure Hunter:

How can doctors and/or hospitals "opt out" of the Affordable Care Act?

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

lol

 

[Chadeaux]

Treasure Hunter:

How can doctors and/or hospitals "opt out" of the Affordable Care Act?

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

By refusing to accept the Obamacare insurance.

Top Hospitals Opt Out of Obamacare - US News and World Report

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