Race on to find Nazi gold

The protagonist of the Rommel story is clams by Peter Fleigh aka Walter Kirner. We have question his motives? He told three different story versions to french, Italian and then the English.

Even confuse the issue even more we have would be book authors making all sort of claims.

In 2004 a book was published by Peter Haining called MYSTERY OF ROMMELS GOLD

The whereabouts of a stolen hoard of treasure knowns as "Rommel's Gold" is one of the most elusive and enduring mysteries of World War II. The fabulous cashe, mainly comprising gold ingots and believed to be worth millions of pounds, was first heard of in 1941 following the German Blitzkrieg of Yugoslavia.

Rumours have abounded regarding what actually happened to the missing gold, and where it might be. These include claims that it was seized by a renegade Panzer unit and hidden in the North African desert for reclamation after the war; that it was despatched to Germany as a gift for Hitler but never reached its destination; or that it was taken by Italian prisoners who set sail for Corsica, where their boat mysteriously sank just offshore.

"The Mystery of Rommel's Gold" examines all the various theories, tracking down the route taken by the missing treasure and reviewing the searches that have taken place since the mid-20th century.

The late Peter Hanning a good friend Ian Flemming Famous for his game bond stories. Wrote novel blending fact with fiction to the point you are not sure if the story they are telling in real or not?

Courtisey of James bond archives.

The story goes, that this a hoard of gold en route from North Africa to Berlin in 1942 on a ship, sunk off the coast of Corsica. German looting was rife and Fleming was well placed working in intelligence, to learn such cases, especially with the set up his 30AU commandos unit, charged with recovering German equipment and secret intelligence.

After a raid on the Tambach Castle in Bavaria by three of his 30AU commandos, they miraculously came across the complete German Naval Archives dating back to 1870 that was in the process of being burned by the Germans. There was so much of it, that Fleming had to charter a fishing boat to get it all back to London. This was where he discovered about Rommel’s gold.

Fleming tried in vain to persuade the Sunday Times to fund an expedition to hunt for Rommel’s treasure as it was deemed too expensive, but he did not give up, and found a way to use briefly this story in his own novel On Her Majesty’s Secret Service. In the novel, Bond meets the Corsican ‘Capu’ of the Union Corse Marc-Ange Draco and they discuss the Corse’s bloody history. In particular, Bond references two unlucky souls that were poking around the “mysterious business of Rommel’s treasure” off the Corsican coast. One was a Czech diver called Fleigh and the other a French diver called Andre Mattei found “riddled with bullets.”

The discussion between Fleming and Haining at Mitre Court was to change Haining’s life. Over 40 years later, he published a book called ‘The Mystery of Rommel’s Gold: The Search for the Legendary Nazi Treasure’ and would dedicate it to Fleming:


Here is problem when fictional novel writer take over and try to write a non fiction book they add things promoted as fact that are speculation.

Crow
 

By 1955 movies was already being plugged on the topic of Rommels treasure.

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Peter Fleigh aka Walter Kirner. in one version claimed Fleig On September 16, 1942, he received covert orders from a captain by the name of Ludwig Dahl arrived at Bastia Corsica under the cover of darkness and was taken by Captain Dahl to an all but abandoned German barracks. There, he was introduced to three lieutenants—Gunther Cranz, Hans Schaub and Albert Hoffmeyer.” The trio had been tasked with moving six metal crates off the island.

Whats interesting there was possibly Captain Dahl

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Source: Deutschland, im Kampf gefallene Soldaten, 1939-1948

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As for the other men mentioned in this mission he mentioned Gunther Cranz below killed on the Russian front

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Hans Schaub killed on the Russian front.

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Albert Hoffmeyer Sounds like Jewish name? He is not recorded killed in action in WW2.

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The Rothchilds hold ALL of the NaZi Gokd!
 

To get to truth behind Peter Fleigh aka Walter Kirner's claims

The place to start is The German Naval Archives: Tambach

Sonia Kahn in the National Archives History Office. It is part four of a series on the history of some of the seized foreign records housed at the National Archives.

Imagining Germany in April 1945 conjures up images of destruction and despair as the war in Europe drew to a close and the Nazi war machine gasped its final breaths.

That April, Allied troops seized documents of the German Naval Archives, also known as the Tambach documents, named after Tambach Castle in northern Bavaria, where they were captured.

The records found at Tambach Castle included German Navy documents from World War II but also some dating back as far as 1850. The Nazis had moved the documents from their home in Berlin to the rural safe haven in November 1943.

After Germany surrendered on May 7, 1945, the U.S. and British forces moved to London the seized documents that they could use for naval intelligence purposes.

They split the documents—some went to the British Admiralty while others were sent to 20 Grosvenor Square, the American military headquarters in London.

U.S. and British officials planned to jointly organize, catalog, and film the intelligence records at each location.

In the midst of filming, Commodore Dudley Knox of the Office of Naval Records and Library, recognizing the great academic and research value of the Tambach records, sought to film the entire collection and to maintain a copy.

Knox persuaded the Director of Naval Intelligence to film the additional documents—a mighty accomplishment considering the postwar reduction in military funds.

Documents that had remained at Tambach Castle after the seizure—which were now deemed worth filming for historic value—were swiftly shipped to join the rest of the collection in London.

Knox eventually realized that it would be a logistical and costly nightmare to truly film every document of the German Naval Archives. Rather than let his dream of filming a greater portion of the Archive fall apart, he made the call to film only what he deemed the most historically valuable documents.

Microfilming the collection began in London in August 1945.

British naval staff first registered the documents, giving them a “PG” designation followed by a unique number identifier.“PG” reportedly stood for “pinched from the Germans.”

Once the documents were registered, American translators listed and detailed the items in the series. The documents were then filmed.

In 1946, while the staff were filming records from 1930-45—those considered most vital to be duplicated—they began the additional task of filming some of the more historic, older records.

By July 1947, filming was complete, resulting in 3,905 reels of film, of which 40 percent concerned material from before 1930.

The question remain is there evidence that some documentaion of naval movements that support Walter Kirners claims?

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The problem is Peter Fleigh aka Walter Kirner's claims every time he retells the story he gives different version.


Walter Kirner's below

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This is picture of him as older man.

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He gave five different versions of the story about his involvement. He was incredibly unreliable. Yet there was two difference sources that claimed what he said in part was true. but was they credible?

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Peter fleigh / walter kirner's did not know the whole truth he himself was caught up in the deceptionp which was to make everyone think it was hidden off the coast of bastia once you figure out the deception it is quite easy to find it but although it is worth a lot of money the French government will give you sweet FA the deception itself was a act of genius which still works today if the French government was to change their attitude I would tell them the exact location once you figure it out Terry hodgkinson's map fits exactly and all the numbers on it make sense and the x on the map shows the exact location of the treasure if you go to that spot and look on a satellite you can actually see it but unless someone comes up with a way I can make money it stays where it is
 

Kevin t Mackay "but unless someone comes up with a way I can make money it stays where it is"

Another X is the spot post... There all over many threads now..! Probably the same person on all. I'll predict it all "stays where it is" as will the other X's on the other threads.... :occasion14:
 

The differences I have a photograph and have been there and you are right I suppose many people do say this/if someone wants to come up with a plan that looks good I will quite happily give them 100 percent proof without them even having to get off their chair
 

The differences I have a photograph and have been there and you are right I suppose many people do say this/if someone wants to come up with a plan that looks good I will quite happily give them 100 percent proof without them even having to get off their chair
Nobody cares about coming up with a "plan" for you. You've said and shown nothing to even remotely spark an interest. Hope your not holding your breath waiting for that "plan". Go write a fiction novel like Oak Island possibly. If your too naive to come up with your own plan having been there your probably shit out of luck.

And that map "symbol" thingy... you don't need a map.... remember?
 

It's nowhere near Corsica... (an island that I visit every year) in my opinion.. I know divers and boat operators in Bastia and Bonifacio areas,, so North and South,,, they know all the coastal areas, are very experienced and are treasure hunters (some of them),, they would have had it long ago..

Just chipping in

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I'm grateful for you chipping in/ if you were to know the location you would understand why no one has found it before/ if you know some one on Corsica who might be interested please feel free to put them in touch with me
 

You are wrong on so many levels it's embarrassing
If you've "been there" and have photo(s) why are you relying on someone else to come up with a plan for you...? And you state you want money too...! And why any interest for a map if you already know the spot...? You shouldn't need it (GPS).

You state:
I have a photo.
I know the spot.
I want money.

And from that info above YOUR requesting a "plan" BEFOREHAND and then some proof will be forthcoming while sitting in a chair...? What part of that is wrong thus far?

If you need money get a job, or develop your own plan, screw the map and keep the photo.
 

You don't understand what I'm saying or I'm not very good at saying it /I do not need any money I do not want any money I have plenty of money /you don't seem to understand a you've obviously never done any research on this matter the French government will give you no money a French law says that you have to tell them within 24 hours they will give you a maximum of 30,000 Euros/nowhere in any of our previous messages have I ever ask for money /I am aware my writings might to some being comprehensible but to those with a basic education it is all quite clear
 

You don't understand what I'm saying or I'm not very good at saying it /I do not need any money I do not want any money I have plenty of money /you don't seem to understand a you've obviously never done any research on this matter the French government will give you no money a French law says that you have to tell them within 24 hours they will give you a maximum of 30,000 Euros/nowhere in any of our previous messages have I ever ask for money /I am aware my writings might to some being comprehensible but to those with a basic education it is all quite clear
POST #57 "nowhere in any of our previous messages have I ever ask for money..."

POST #48: "...look on a satellite you can actually see it but unless someone comes up with a way I can make money it stays where it is..."

If it's staying where it is unless you get money.... what is anybody missing..? Please explain what plan you require to get money that you now say your not asking for. What type of plan are you requesting here on an open forum that you can't do yourself if it's "quite clear"...?
 

I didn't say unless I get money it stays where it is I said unless the French government changes its attitudes it will stay where it is I have tried to make thes clear or as clear as I can I do not need money I do not need help in raising it when I mentioned needing assistance or making money I am talking about someone who knows how to make money from the situation I am not asking anybody for money if I go ahead and lift the gold it will all go to French government I am looking for someone who can make sure this doesn't happen I repeat again I am not looking for money I am looking for someone with the no-how and the experience too negotiate with the French government or whoever might be necessary/however I did say unless someone comes up with away I can make money at /it it can stay s where it is/ I did not actually ask for money a crucial part of this message is I am looking for someone to help who can comes up with way I can make money I realiz it might be slightly unclear but I'm looking to make money for me and the person who knows how or anyone that can put me in touch with the person who knows how I believe there is money to be made I just don't know how but to make it clear again I do not need money I do not want money I do not need anything from anyone else except help they will be adequately reimbursed I apologies for any misunderstandings prior to this message or misunderstanding you might have after this message
 

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