OMG HELP (w/pics!!!)

[LadyDragonWolf]

Please help! Some need ID's and all need approximate values. Some are just cool and I'm showing off lol. We have spent HOURS going through my Great Grandpa's collection. What you will see here isn't all of it, and there's another post in best finds with a list of random stuff we found (wheats, mercs, morgans, etc.). I'll be doing this in several posts because there's a LOT of pics (front and back stuff mostly)

This post contains 6 pics:
Front and back of a $100,000 confederate "fantasy" note. From what I understand it's basically fake money, but is there any collector's value to it?

The second set is front and back of a Morgan in basic uncirculated condition? Value? I have 3 or 4 more in various conditions, all have "liberty" visible.

The final set is a couple of neat pennies. My fiance said they were some kinda commemorative thing?

More detailed info on any of what I post is always welcome (I like learning as much as I can about this stuff lol)

next post coming up...

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

You have so many items listed its hard to know where to start.

Here is the Kennedy penny. I have seen these also made with every little state. These are post mint alterations. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,10562.0.html

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

Here is some information on your large silver Theresia http://coincollecting.a-z-series.com/1780-empress-maria-theresia-restrike-coin/

Some you can google yourself. The Spanish reales look authentic and beautiful. They are silver and worth much more than melt.

Is the gold real? There were reproductions made. http://www.reisbord.com/goldcalfractionals.htm

 

[LadyDragonWolf]

First off, I'm assuming the gold is real. For the sake of simplicity and my poor addled brain, I'm calling them real lol. They are very tiny (maybe half the size of a dime?) and that link you sent me says there's like 500 varieties.

The 2 peso piece is about the same size.

From what I've read my Spanish reale is only worth 25-50 bucks. Which I suppose is double to triple the melt value.

@ texastee I'm glad you enjoyed the pics! But I feel about the same as you do... most of these things I've never seen before today.

Oh and we found a bunch of indian head pennies, V nickels, and a few barber dimes too. Not much in great condition, but still really cool

I wound up doing some research on the indian head pennies, and it's not really an indian... it's liberty in a feathered headdress. Though I guess you all knew that already, but I thought it was neat lol

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

From what I've read my Spanish reale is only worth 25-50 bucks. Which I suppose is double to triple the melt value.

That could be true either way I like it the best (besides your gold pieces). The Mexican pieces look authentic as well.

It sounds as if you researched the coins already. Im not a moderator and Im sure they have much work to do as it is. They used to do a great job of keeping this forum organized but maybe they are overwhelmed.

Keep in mind this is the What Is It forum and not really a place to show off your coins. It would be better to post only the ones you need IDed here. Maybe "Todays Finds" would have been a better place to show the entire collection.

 

[LadyDragonWolf]

Actually I originally posted in Today's Finds and was moved here. The research I've managed to do so far isn't much, and was done AFTER I posted everything.

Take the 1943 nickel. I know it's a war time nickel. I know it's about 35% silver. I also know that all 1943 nickels had mint marks. I also know that those nickels were counterfeited by some dude named Henning that thought he could get away with it. What I DON'T know is whether I have a henning counterfeit nickel, or an extremely rare error nickel. And if it turns out it's a henning, does it have any collector's value?

A good chunk of what I have is foreign currency that I don't know anything about.

I know what a Morgan dollar is, and I more or less know how to grade the ones I have, but what I DON'T know is it's value, if any, above melt.

And I honestly had no clue what that 1/4 california gold piece was.

Nor did I know anything about japanese invasion money, or military currency.

I don't expect people to do ALL my research for me. I figure if I pitch in myself where possible, it can all be solved quicker. Especially now with all this stuff to figure out lol.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I understand. Its cool. I didnt mean anything bad by it. I just think you would get more response if you try to limit the amount of items that you are requesting help for. Also be more specific. Its hard to ID any more than 5 different items in one thread. Thats about my limit. I actually prefer one at a time.

It may help if you split it up into different threads. Maybe its just me but it just looks too overwhelming.

Thanks for sharing.

 

[Jeep]

Heres your persia (Iran) coin

http://www.vcoins.com/world/canmooseplus/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=27

This is fun, it's like working on a jigsaw puzzle, lol

I can just see my great grandkids trying to do the same thing when I am gone, I better leave a
note to get on Tnet for help

 

[Jeep]

Heres your 1860 mexico silver 8 reales (crown)

http://cgi.ebay.com/1860-MEXICO-Silver-coin-8-Reales-Zs-VL-Low-date-Nice-/320682442359

Sold for about 75 bucks

This one sold for 345 bucks

http://www.coinfactswiki.com/wiki/Mexico_1860-Mo_TH_8_reales

Heres more info on it:

http://www.coinfactswiki.com/wiki/Mexico_1860-Mo_TH_8_reales

I don't know the one ya got, does it have ph or fh by the date? hope its the rare one

 

[Jeep]

That 1933 polish 5 zlotych sold on ebay for 100 bucks
supposed to be rare

http://coins.bonnum.com/country.php?country=pol&lang=en

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I would put the Calif. gold in a seperate post because there are so many replicas.

I would put all the Mexican together. They are probably the best pieces price wise.

Thanks to Jeep we are getting it done.

Here is the 1964 North Dakota token http://auction.tokencatalog.com/auc...bilee-HALF-DOLLAR-Statehood&auction_id=111002

It says $5 but value is what someone is willing to pay. I prefer to use eBay to judge value. Be careful asking price doesnt mean much. You need to look at what it actually sold for.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

The 1776 coins are not worth anything, I find them in pocket change, but may have some value sold in the original 1976 package on eBay. I think they made silver ones with the S mint mark. The Eisenhowers are starting to disappear and may have value. I dont know if the banks still have them.

My guess the 1963 Israeli coins have little value. I didnt search it, just guessing.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Actually I originally posted in Today's Finds and was moved here. The research I've managed to do so far isn't much, and was done AFTER I posted everything.

Its no biggie but I guess thats exactly what Im trying to say. Research it BEFORE and then post the ones here in the What Is It forum that you cant find or dont understand. Tell us what you know ahead of time. You cant expect us to search every coin for you LOL but it appears Jeep and a few others are trying. You can share the entire collection in Todays Finds.

Take the 1943 nickel. I know it's a war time nickel. I know it's about 35% silver. I also know that all 1943 nickels had mint marks. I also know that those nickels were counterfeited by some dude named Henning that thought he could get away with it. What I DON'T know is whether I have a henning counterfeit nickel, or an extremely rare error nickel. And if it turns out it's a henning, does it have any collector's value?

I learned something too. I never heard of a Henning nickel so I will research it.
http://www.numismaticenquirer.com/TNE/Henning Counterfeit Nickel.html
I would have doubted you had a counterfeit Henning but now I see your picture. War nickels were common pocket change in the 60's. Your war nickel is authentic if it has a mint mark (P, D, or S).

ADDED: OK I see your point Dragonlady. Post away and we will try and sort it out. The possible Henning nickel could use an entire post on its own. Just dont post anything already solved.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

The nickel was off my screen so I didnt see it at first. Ive resized it for easier viewing. I cant find these on Ebay probably because selling counterfeit money is illegal.




This is interesting: The 1944 nickels were quickly spotted since Henning neglected to add the large mintmark of the Philidelphia mint (P). He also made counterfeit nickels dated 1939, 1946, 1947 and 1953.

It is estimated that more than 100,000 of Henning's nickels reached circulation. Henning dumped another 200,000 nickels in Copper Creek, New Jersey, of which only 14,000 were recovered. Another 200,000 are thought to have been dumped in the Schuylkill River.

 

[Got_4by4]

Concerning the War Nickle......
I'm 99.9 sure that it is just a dirty 1948!

Please see the attached picture of a well worn 1943 P.


Sorry about that.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I dont know the best way to clean nickel. Usually you dont want to clean coins but in this case it may be necessary.

 

[RELICDUDE07]

I don't think the real 1/4 dollar golds had a date on them....Great stuff i enjoyed looking at the paper money

 

[diggummup]

I dont know the best way to clean nickel. Usually you dont want to clean coins but in this case it may be necessary.

Just on the off chance that it is a no P '43 I wouldn't try anything more than a little dish detergent and a very soft rag for now.

BTW- I've never heard of a Henning '43 counterfeit, most were '44 as far as the war nickels go.

 

[Jeep]

Moving on

The 2 reales from spain is pretty interesting, Not much on it from ebay but here a guy wants 100 bucks
and says its from mexico, LOL
http://cgi.ebay.com/1786-M-Mexico-2-Reales-Coin-KM-88-2-/130486077822

What we know (and don't tell him) is that this is a Spanish coin from Carlos III rein
http://www.coindatabase.com/coin_detail_pesetas.php?cdb=L170602

This Carlos III dude was pretty interesting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_III_of_Spain

His mug on the coin is funny but after seeing the painting of him I was like roflmao

 

[Jeep]

Your two peso coin is pretty common from what I read but is still worth $ being gold and all

http://compare.ebay.com/like/290580933405?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y

Here's a little something about it:

http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/mexico2pesos.php

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Moving on

The 2 reales from spain is pretty interesting, Not much on it from ebay but here a guy wants 100 bucks
and says its from mexico, LOL
http://cgi.ebay.com/1786-M-Mexico-2-Reales-Coin-KM-88-2-/130486077822

What we know (and don't tell him) is that this is a Spanish coin from Carlos III rein
http://www.coindatabase.com/coin_detail_pesetas.php?cdb=L170602

Both of these Carolus III coins are indeed minted in Spanish colonial Mexico. The M with the little o is the Mexico City mint mark.



One of her coins may be a Pistareen from Spain. I couldnt see in on my screen so I resized. There are so many coins its confusing.