Old ring Located on treasure coast beach

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I located a very thin detailed woman’s ring with an unknown white oval stone mounted in a heart setting. Not magnetic. It was in a fresh shell pile that was gone the next day. Wreck off golf course.
Second trip here. I now know what they mean when they say the sands move constantly.
I was at Fredrick Douglas on Saturday near high tide. Worked below the insane cut until it was unworkable. Left to use restroom and to eat returning about an hour and a half later. Big mistake!!!!
The 7 foot plus (I’m 6’5”) dropped down to 2’6”to4’with the lower beach filled back in adding several feet.
Met a diver from the 80’s who was wearing a gold coin necklace. He found the coin on the 1715 wreck site off the same beach.
He said it is very old and looks like it could be from the wreck. He suggested I get it looked at at a local specialty shop that deals with 1715 items.
Have not made it there yet still hitting all of the beaches, time limited.
Any help identifying would be much appreciated.
Will be here another week hitting as many spots as I can. Any tips would be appreciated.

 

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AND WHEN... they are together from one piece they are a "head".... AKA... a "crown".

 

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O dang he might be right it's a scalloped cusp. As he sips his tea with his pinky finger up lol

 

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Nope. The ring you pictured is indeed 15th Century but the setting is correctly known as a "scalloped cusp" setting. It's properly described as such in the listing from Christie's auction house where it was sold last year.

https://www.christies.com/lotfinder...px?from=salesummary&intObjectID=6240556&lid=1

By contrast, the OP's ring has a 'claw' setting which does not predate the late 1800s. In America those are known as 'prong' settings, having been popularised by Tiffany, and in the UK that term is now also used alongside our original term 'claw'.

And Red coat... whats with the "extra"... that you add to your responses after looking up the picture data in google to find the site I derived the picture from... and adding link ?

So perhaps I should "rename" photos from here on out as to thwart this.

Then you would be lost as to what it is I really posted... for from the picture alone you would have no clue...

heh...

 

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Brotherly love lol

 

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And here is some more you can reference,,,

THESE are from WEBSITES IN THE U.K. ...

On these U.K. jewelers websites... they ALSO ... As one can see... use the term PRONG... not "claw".




https://michaelplatt.co.uk/the-different-parts-of-an-engagement-ring/

 

[Rookster]

Nice find.

 

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And here is some more you can reference,,,

THESE are from WEBSITES IN THE U.K. ...

On these U.K. jewelers websites... they ALSO ... As one can see... use the term PRONG... not "claw".

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https://michaelplatt.co.uk/the-different-parts-of-an-engagement-ring/

For some reason I'm not seeing the Scalloped cusp part, can you circle it for me?

 

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BUT...

I will say this... there is the term "claw" referenced in some jewelry glossary's.

And Red Coat would be correct in this IF that is what he knew it to be ... aka learned that term.

It is an "open" setting term... but ... ehhh

 

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for example...

"Claw

A claw setting is one in which a series of metal prongs (called claws) holds a stone securely in a setting (the claws grips the stone just above the girdle of the stone), with no metal directly under the stone (it is an open setting). This setting lets light in under the stone, so this type of setting is usually used for transparent, faceted stones. The modern-day claw setting became popular in the 1800s."

This was on a website in London. - https://www.braybrook.co.uk/jewelle...ms-of-information/glossary-of-jewellery-terms

 

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Also saw a reference to the "gypsy"...

Although it was spelled... "Gipsy".

 

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Gypsy's Tramps and Thieves?

 

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Seee.... constructive learning on Tnet.

 

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Gypsy's Tramps and Thieves?

I think you are liking this too much... heh

 

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Haha I do, it makes the day pass by.

 

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After further review... and in all fairness to Redcoat... I must admit...

I have found multiple references using the word "claw" setting.

BUT... it is usually used like "4 prong claw setting".

So... with that being said.

Redcoat is also correct.

So... Broken detector... heh... gonna have to give it to em.

Shake on it.

 

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After further review... and in all fairness to Redcoat... I must admit...

I have found multiple references using the word "claw" setting.

BUT... it is usually used like "4 prong claw setting".

So... with that being said.

Redcoat is also correct.

So... Broken detector... heh... gonna have to give it to em.

Shake on it.

Haha whitney always went back to bobbi so I had hope for u and redcoat hahaha

 

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And Red coat... whats with the "extra"... that you add to your responses after looking up the picture data in google to find the site I derived the picture from... and adding link ?

So perhaps I should "rename" photos from here on out as to thwart this.

Then you would be lost as to what it is I really posted... for from the picture alone you would have no clue...

heh...

Much weirdness. The forum helpfully provides a little indicator at the bottom of posts to say if they have been added to. It will say "Last Edited By..." and you will not find that at the bottom of any of the three posts I made. So, I have not added anything "extra" in the way that your paranoia suggests.

I recognised the 15th Century ring you posted immediately without the need to Google. It was quite a find and made newspaper headlines here, as well as being widely drooled over on metal-detecting sites.

I originally referred to "claw" or "prong" settings as being not earlier than the late 1800s. As you have discovered, having stopped shooting from the hip, the preferred and original term in the UK was "claw" and the American preference for "prong" now sits alongside it interchangeably. I never suggested anything different, however you may try to portray it.

What you have been showing are not constructed as prong or claw settings. I have been silversmithing and setting stones in my work by all of the traditional methods for about 8 years now and have a fantastic tutor who has schooled me on the differences in construction.

I should probably add "heh" to this post, but in English we would more usually say "hah".

For "gypsy settings" there are two accepted spellings for the word in English... gypsy or gipsy. Doubtless you have a preference in American English, but I don't know which.

 

[A2coins]

Wow the op probobly bailed long ago lol Nice ring find I would love to detect the treasure coast, good luck!!!!!!!

 

[A2coins]

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