Oak Island Factual (proven/documented) Information

[ARC]

Sorry, I just can't help myself when I encounter

So ECS and OneShotWonder think a group of people dug a tunnel 90ft down, with 300ft long flood tunnels, structures on the beach..... 400 years ago..... on an island for jokes?

In 1921 there was no evidence of Tutankhamen's tomb. ECS and OneShotWonder would have labelled the greatest archaeological discovery a hoax.

Lack of evidence doesn't prove non-existence.

I have no idea if there was treasure on Oak Island but the two options are:

1) Treasure existed
2) People decided to waste years building complicated structures/tunnels for no reason.

Common sense (and odds of probability) would suggest they were trying to hide something.

There is no evidence that anyone BESIDES the ones LOOKING for a treasure built anything.

Furthermore... there has never been a documented "similar" situation anywhere else in the world in all the history of the world... imagination.

 

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[Singlestack Wonder]

What flood tunnels? No evidence of flood tunnels has ever been found. The only evidence of anyone digging 90+foot down is treasure searchers. There is no evidence of any pre-treasure searchers digging anywhere near that depth.

There is no evidence that the structures at Smith Cove have any relationship to the "alleged" money pit.

That is the point... There is zero evidence of anything treasure related being found on Oak Island (Possible exception of the original finders finding small amount of treasure around 10 ft deep)

Everything else is just speculation backed up by wishful thinking...

This +100.....Absolutely ZERO evidence has ever been found indicating a structured pit with log platforms or flood tunnels. The "90 foot stone" was also a bobby dazzler created by one of the companies looking to keep investors. All have been 100% disproven...

 

[ECS]

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Lack of evidence doesn't prove non-existence...

It also doesn't prove existence.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Marty is going to be on Ancient Aliens Friday, going to Italy with the wild curly head guy, can’t remember his name, it’s like they own the whole channel now

Giorgio A. Tsoukalos. Majored in Sports Communication at Ithaca College.

Who would know more about combining exobiology and archeology? Not at all insulting to the folks who worked so hard to build these structures.

 

[Brit80]

This +100.....Absolutely ZERO evidence has ever been found indicating a structured pit with log platforms or flood tunnels. The "90 foot stone" was also a bobby dazzler created by one of the companies looking to keep investors. All have been 100% disproven...

They found axe-cut beams, carbon-dated to before 1790/money pit discovery.

You think axe-cut beams occur naturally 90ft below the surface?

 

[gazzahk]

They found axe-cut beams, carbon-dated to before 1790/money pit discovery.

You think axe-cut beams occur naturally 90ft below the surface?

The money pit area has been dug and re-dug so many times. Dunfeild dug a massive hole/pit and everything was bulldozed back in when he left. Any timber found in the pit area could of come from anywhere and any depth. Read the early documents

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/oak-island/598796-early-documents-oak-island.html

There is no mention of timbers found at 90 feet by the earliest people to dig that depth when they were digging in what was the 'original' pit.

The Laginas have offered no evidence in the 120 shows they have done of evidence of man made activity pre 1795 in the money pit area. They simply have found evidence of activity around 1750ish on the island (Smith Cove/Swamp etc) and speculated it is related to the pit while offering zero evidence to support this speculation.

 

[Singlestack Wonder]

They found axe-cut beams, carbon-dated to before 1790/money pit discovery.

You think axe-cut beams occur naturally 90ft below the surface?

Gazzahk nails it in his post above......the only timbers ever found were ones from previous search tunnels, etc.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

That island has been turned over more than Paris Hilton. Dunfield went down 134 feet with a 70-ton excavator and then bulldozed all the fill and overburden back in.

Look at some of the early 1900 shacks and sheds that were built for earlier digs. That all ended up scattered throughout the strata.

 

[MikeN]

There is no mention of timbers found at 90 feet by the earliest people to dig that depth when they were digging in what was the 'original' pit.

Therein lies the catch - even if the original story was expanded, *something* made them dig below say, 20 feet. They continued to encounter wood of some sort at an unnatural depth. If it was just clay, dirt, and rocks, they would have given up the original dig much sooner.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

In the past 220 years some 27 groups did gave up on the dig. We're working on 28 now for TV; and it's to their advantage to drag it out indefinitely.

 

[gazzahk]

Therein lies the catch - even if the original story was expanded, *something* made them dig below say, 20 feet. They continued to encounter wood of some sort at an unnatural depth. If it was just clay, dirt, and rocks, they would have given up the original dig much sooner.

The original documents refer to wood platforms every 10 feet until 30 feet. Then markings after that to a lower level (If I am remembering correctly as it is quite a while since I read them) No timber was found below 30 feet (At least not refered to in the early documents)..

The two explanations I find most plausible for the "platforms" until 30 feet are 1. The pit was a sink hole and the timbers have just fallen into the hole and appeared something like platforms (wishful thinking by the people digging) 2. J.Steeles theory that the "Money pit" was the remnants of a pine tar kiln. The oak platfroms were part of the structure of the Kiln.

The real point in my view is that there was NEVER any documented recording of the earliest searchers of the pit refering to timbers below 30 feet. If they were not there in 1850 why are the Laginas claiming to find them in 2020...

 

[ARC]

Cattle was raised and people lived on the island... there is no doubt of this...

"pit" was the islands fresh water well at one time... IF it ever was used or functional / producing... who knows.

And the rest of the story...

THE END.

 

[DaveVanP]

The original documents refer to wood platforms every 10 feet until 30 feet. Then markings after that to a lower level (If I am remembering correctly as it is quite a while since I read them) No timber was found below 30 feet (At least not refered to in the early documents)...

...The real point in my view is that there was NEVER any documented recording of the earliest searchers of the pit refering to timbers below 30 feet. If they were not there in 1850 why are the Laginas claiming to find them in 2020...

Subsequent digs since the 1860s, to the present, by several different groups, HAVE dug below 30 feet, as deep as 120 feet or more, and left behind wood and other debris. That IS documented. During one excavation, the Money Pit was a literal PIT, which looked like an open-pit mine, or the caldera of a volcano, which afterwards was refilled by bulldozing the removed material as well as any debris back into it.

 

[Singlestack Wonder]

Two years, eleven months, and 394 posts later, yet not one shred of actual fact or evidence disproving oak island was a hoax...

 

[ARC]

This thread is more interesting than the show !

 

[franklin]

This thread is more interesting than the show !

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Some of their shows are made from our conversations. "The Curse of Civil War Gold" originated on this forum. I was even asked to be in the show before the Lagina's and the other guy got involved. I turned them down because I knew the treasure they sought after had no roots and did not happen.

 

[Al D]

Some of their shows are made from our conversations. "The Curse of Civil War Gold" originated on this forum. I was even asked to be in the show before the Lagina's and the other guy got involved. I turned them down because I knew the treasure they sought after had no roots and did not happen.

You would have been perfect for the show. LOL

 

[Singlestack Wonder]

Some of their shows are made from our conversations. "The Curse of Civil War Gold" originated on this forum. I was even asked to be in the show before the Lagina's and the other guy got involved. I turned them down because I knew the treasure they sought after had no roots and did not happen.

Makes sense in their tradition of having folks spin yarns of fictional treasure and fictional facts...

 

[franklin]

My treasures are fact that you very much.

I just made a post about the 7G's in Shakespear's Epitaph. Four of the letter "G's" form a cross and three form a 3,4,5 Triangle. If you take the short side of the triangle and go to the top of it and then go 720 feet the width of Nolan's Cross takes you to the treasure's location at 44 30 51.31N 64 17 23.28W

 

[ECS]

You have also claimed that Shakespeare was illiterate and couldn't sign his name, AND were proven wrong.