Newly Discovered Van Gogh?

[Pfrisco987]

I have what I believe is an authentic Van Gogh painting. It depicts a bridge, and when compared to Van Gogh's sketch Bridge Near Herengracht and Prinses it becomes clear that these two pictures are of the exact same location and by the exact same artist, just from a different point of reference. I am including a split screen detail of both my painting and the known Van Gogh sketch. Compare the branches of the trees in both pictures, and the houses in the background. Look at the similarities to Van Gogh's Bridge on the Seine at Asnieres, and to the houses in the background of Cafe Terrace at Night. Look at the signature, compared to known Van Gogh signatures. What do you guys think? First picture is my painting, followed by the signature on my painting, followed by known Van Gogh signatures, then known Van Gogh works, finally the split screen study.

 

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[jewelerguy]

sure hope that works out for you. there might be a few of these in your future....

 

[Rustic]

To me, your painting looks nothing like the known Van Gogh painting. Your bridge has no railings and appears to have gas lights, whereas Van Gogh's has a three-rail railing and telegraph poles, but no gaslights. Also the artistic styles are completely different... And Vincent is a common name. I vote an emphatic no.

 

[Pfrisco987]

Well, that's because they are of two different bridges. Mine is of a bridge near Herengracht and Prinsengracht in Amsterdam, and the other painting is of a bridge on the Seine in France at Asnieres. Mine would have been painted earlier in in his career, the Asnieres bridge toward the end. It is a comparison to his known sketch, Bridge at Herengracht and Prinses, that counts. Attaching, emphatically, that sketch. Then refer to the split screen detail for comparison.

 

[tamrock]

Wish I could find a Van Gogh

 

[NHBandit]

You post your painting with a question mark at the end of the title. But you don't want to hear any opinions that don't support your theory that the painting is genuine ? If you've come here just to have people yell hooray and pat you on the back you've come to the wrong place. Hoping to make a big score is why all of us enjoy the hobby of "treasure hunting" but it's extremely unlikely that you've stumbelled across an unknown painting by one of the masters. How about trying a little harder to convince us ? Where do you live ? How did it come into your possession ? Etc..

 

[Pfrisco987]

I appreciate INSIGHTFUL comments, both that support my case and those to the contrary, just as much as I have little patience for half witted comments, whether they are in my favor or not. And I'm confident in my own convictions to a degree that the opinions from this discussion board aren't going to sway me one way or the other. In any event, we are going to find out whether or not this is an authentic Van Gogh painting. I thought it would be fun to give those with strong opinions enough rope to hang themselves and demonstrate whether or not they are full of it in the process. So please, carry on.

 

[bratt22]

Contact Christies Auction House in New York City and talk with the Art Dept and tell them what you have and they will want you to email photos front and back and signature. They will advise and either send a representative or give you instructions on sending to them.

 

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[Pfrisco987]

Thanks Bratt22.

 

[unclemac]

good lord we can't authenticate that for you! Take it to an expert....if a van Gogh, the value would be astronomical...where did you get it anyway?

 

[austin]

Christies or Sotheby's. They are the experts and have been doing this for a long time. As far as your attitude, you best realize that you may be wrong. Better prepare for that...
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[Icewing]

I'd bet my next 10 high tones that one of you is going to be eating some crow soon, that is if the authentications results are ever posted.
Either way I think I should get 10% if I'm right.

- I found this on the Crystal Bridges Museum website: http://crystalbridges.org/wp-content/uploads/pdf/AppraisalReferrals.pdf

 

[Pfrisco987]

Austin-I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid. But even if I'm wrong, it's worth it just for the opportunity to dream big a little while and at least in your dreams bump yourself up a few tax brackets. Paint a vivid picture of what your dream house would look like, deciding between the convertible AMG sl65 or one of the new Audi convertibles...the obnoxious comments you got scripted for when you pass by your haters and doubters looking fresh to death and dipped in sauce. Isn't that what keeps us all on the hunt, despite the awareness that we probably aren't going to find the Holy Grail?

 

[Pfrisco987]

Icewing-I promise to disclose the results as soon as I get them, whether it's good news or not so good news. I take it from your tagline quote that you probably noticed the striking similarities in terms of perspective, though. If this is a fake, it was done by a masterly skilled artist. And you just don't see those, because they would make money legitimately without the concerns that come with selling and marketing counterfeit goods. Then, of course, there is always the Vermeer counterfeiter... whose works sell for more than Vermeer's do.

 

[DCMatt]

The painting has interesting possibilities... But it is very difficult to tell much of anything from a picture of a picture. BTW... your phone is almost dead.

Van Gogh was all over the place with his signature so that part is inconclusive. To my eye the brush stroke style and color scheme is not Van Gogh. But again, I'm seeing a picture of a picture of a painting. On top of that I'm just some yahoo on the internet that mostly identifies little bits of junk that have been buried in the ground for a while.

As suggested, if you really think you have something, spend the time and the money to get it appraised properly. Please let us know how it all comes out.

DCMatt

 

[beep beep dig]

If this is a fake, it was done by a masterly skilled artist. And you just don't see those, because they would make money legitimately without the concerns that come with selling and marketing counterfeit goods.

fyi, that simply isn't true - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Beltracchi

 

[FreeBirdTim]

Van Gogh has been dead for 125 years. Very unlikely that any of his works would be uncataloged after all this time. More likely a forgery made to look similar to one of his authentic paintings...

 

[Tnmountains]

Quit the quibbling . Only an expert with bird in hand can answer your question pertaining to the painting. Yes it is fun to dream. Remember also these are your first 6 post on this site.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

On top of which forgeries of signatures are common and impossible to tell except by experts especially by a picture.