newby,.. with a story.. input needed.

Darren in Trinidad said:
Fascinating. What did you shoot your videos with? GoPro?
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GP3 on front off my scooter, when I swim I just hold the scooter by the shroud.

I shoot at 1280x960 pixels (4:3) 60 frames so that I can slow the footage while editing when things move to much, 960 to give me more room for screencaptures.
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EricH, Seeing that the design of ships anchors back then varied little from the 1500's to the early 1800's The thick encrustation prevents identifying the small changes that took place during this period. It looks as if all the anchors shown could have been from any time during this period. Personally, I would tend to lose interest if the crossbars are iron. One thing that would help, if it used chain as cable, you can date it after 1836. As to identify country of origin, all the European countries at the time used the same basic design. They also "borrowed" ground tackle as often as possible because of the likelihood of losing their own. The cannon would give up a lot more info than the anchors.
 

aquanut said:
EricH, Seeing that the design of ships anchors back then varied little from the 1500's to the early 1800's The thick encrustation prevents identifying the small changes that took place during this period. It looks as if all the anchors shown could have been from any time during this period. Personally, I would tend to lose interest if the crossbars are iron. One thing that would help, if it used chain as cable, you can date it after 1836. As to identify country of origin, all the European countries at the time used the same basic design. They also "borrowed" ground tackle as often as possible because of the likelihood of losing their own. The cannon would give up a lot more info than the anchors.
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Thanks a lot
Here are some cannons

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captbilly said:
I will keep you in the loop
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Capt Billy here is an update on Galeon site:
this morning I found 2 smaller anchors, which puts the count to 2 small and 2 large anchors for this site.

the first anchor is actually scuck under the cannon, you can see it stick out a little
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This sits a fair distance upwind (east side of the reef near the sand), from the other anchors
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Nice, you would think they either threw out an anchor from keeping from going aground or rowed one out in the direction they came in on hoping to kedge themselves back off in the direction they came in on. That is important as it would show a compass direction from which the ship came. And a good search area would be west and down wind along that compass course. I still dont believe the square tiles are ballast, somewhere maybe a little deeper water there should be a trail of ballast stones. One thing for sure and certain that ship didn't sail away. I never found any ballast stones.
Check out these tiles, i just googled 18th century Spanish floor tiles. Look close at one next time you are there and tell me if you dont believe this is what they are? One thing good about that is Spanish floor tiles=Spanish ship. One thing bad about that is Spanish tiles wouldn't be shipped back to Spain meaning an incoming vessel. And just my sea sense would say a ship with wooden decks would not put tiles on the floor as that would start instant rot. But you never know? Maybe the Captains cabin had tiled floors? Anybody else on this thread ever hear about anything like tiled floors on a ship? This site is littered with them, and if you look closely at these tiles they resemble poured concrete, they are not cut from one piece of stone.
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captbilly said:
Nice, you would think they either threw out an anchor from keeping from going aground or rowed one out in the direction they came in on hoping to kedge themselves back off in the direction they came in on. That is important as it would show a compass direction from which the ship came. And a good search area would be west and down wind along that compass course. I still dont believe the square tiles are ballast, somewhere maybe a little deeper water there should be a trail of ballast stones. One thing for sure and certain that ship didn't sail away. I never found any ballast stones.
Check out these tiles, i just googled 18th century Spanish floor tiles. Look close at one next time you are there and tell me if you dont believe this is what they are? One thing good about that is Spanish floor tiles=Spanish ship. One thing bad about that is Spanish tiles wouldn't be shipped back to Spain meaning an incoming vessel. And just my sea sense would say a ship with wooden decks would not put tiles on the floor as that would start instant rot. But you never know? Maybe the Captains cabin had tiled floors? Anybody else on this thread ever hear about anything like tiled floors on a ship? This site is littered with them, and if you look closely at these tiles they resemble poured concrete, they are not cut from one piece of stone.
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Bill,
it is simple to locate the anchors they all sit in the same direction, which is downwind roughly east to west with the smallest sitting the furthest in to the wind.

About the tiles, I found some on the windward side of the reef, and at the leeward base of the reef. I still tend to lean towards more modern ballast system. The different size is what makes me wonder.

I am now focusing on this wreck since the bay is realy dirty and will keep on posting what I find.

Here is a Youtube play list of the 5 Galeon anchors
 

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Got this from Smithbrown, really useful

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Send the various measurements between parts to an expert and get great info back.....
 

more wreck items for the Cabarete bay celection...

an other day in the bay, 129 min-3200m traveled
A new anchor to be added to the list total of 17, this is nr 11 for the bay area.
and more wreckage items

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Is that an astrolabe lying on the bottom?
 

EricH you better go back and pick that up before somebody else gets it and it winds up on Ebay.
You can mark where you found it and turn it in to the authorities.
 

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