✅ SOLVED Need help with a couple coins

[Tony (NC)]

I just got back from a business trip to Texas. Before I left, my colleague in Dallas said that he heard I was a coin collector. He dropped these two coins in my hand before I headed to the airport. Can anyone give me a positive ID on these? Thanks for any help.

 

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[deepsecrets]

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[Silver Searcher]

The first coin depicts a Roman coin of Constans...but there are a few things not right with it, on the reverse the coin should read VOT XX MVLT XXX. The N is also backwards perhaps a mistake, the Mint SMANS I think should be SMANZ unless a unlisted officiana for S.

SS

 

[CRUSADER]

[DN] CONSTAN-TIVS PF AVG is Constantius II, I think. The mint is an odd one, as SS points out, as unless its a poorly done 'Z' at the end its hard to find.

I will get Dad to check the books & report back...

 

[Silver Searcher]

[DN] CONSTAN-TIVS PF AVG is Constantius II, I think. The mint is an odd one, as SS points out, as unless its a poorly done 'Z' at the end its hard to find.

I will get Dad to check the books & report back...

I found one with the Mint SMANS on a Constantius 1, but the reverse was different.

SS

 

[CRUSADER]

I found one with the Mint SMANS on a Constantius 1, but the reverse was different.

SS

Spoke with Dad in the car the SMANS does exist for a few Emporers, but not many posted on the net, so will look it up in RIC shortly.

 

[CRUSADER]

Cru'Dad's thoughts:

This is a CONSTANTIUS II AD347-348 AE3/4 from the Antiochia mint (now Antakiyah, Turkey). There were 15 Officina parts of the Mint of which the S at the end of SMANS was one. So you could have SMANA, SMANB, SMANZ etc to name a few others. Such a coin is normally 15-16mm dia weighing approx 1.67gm. In the Sears(88) volume it is coin Ref No 4000 Obverse showing D N CONSTAN-TIVS PF AVG with a Diadem Head right. Reverse is VOT XX MVLT XXX in four lines within a Wreath. In RIC Vol VIII it is like Coin Ref No 113 under Antioch Mint page 521 classified as a common occurrence.

 

[curbdiggercarl57]

Cru'Dad's thoughts:

This is a CONSTANTIUS II AD347-348 AE3/4 from the Antiochia mint (now Antakiyah, Turkey). There were 15 Officina parts of the Mint of which the S at the end of SMANS was one. So you could have SMANA, SMANB, SMANZ etc to name a few others. Such a coin is normally 15-16mm dia weighing approx 1.67gm. In the Sears(88) volume it is coin Ref No 4000 Obverse showing D N CONSTAN-TIVS PF AVG with a Diadem Head right. Reverse is VOT XX MVLT XXX in four lines within a Wreath. In RIC Vol VIII it is like Coin Ref No 113 under Antioch Mint page 521 classified as a common occurrence.

I think I counted about 25 words that I understood in your posting!
Man, I gotta get out more!
Great friend, by the way,
Kudos!
Carl

 

[Silver Searcher]

Cru'Dad's thoughts:

This is a CONSTANTIUS II AD347-348 AE3/4 from the Antiochia mint (now Antakiyah, Turkey). There were 15 Officina parts of the Mint of which the S at the end of SMANS was one. So you could have SMANA, SMANB, SMANZ etc to name a few others. Such a coin is normally 15-16mm dia weighing approx 1.67gm. In the Sears(88) volume it is coin Ref No 4000 Obverse showing D N CONSTAN-TIVS PF AVG with a Diadem Head right. Reverse is VOT XX MVLT XXX in four lines within a Wreath. In RIC Vol VIII it is like Coin Ref No 113 under Antioch Mint page 521 classified as a common occurrence.

Did your Dad not see the backward N, which should have been M.

SS

 

[CRUSADER]

Did your Dad not see the backward N, which should have been M.

SS

its just an off centre M. My thoughts as well as his.

 

[Silver Searcher]

its just an off centre M. My thoughts as well as his.

Don't think so, it's clearly a backward N.

 

[sagittarius98]

Info about the coin:

KM# 85 3 SOLS (Pezetta)
4.5000 g., Billon
Ruler: Honore III
Obv: Bust right
Rev:Cruciform crowned H's with diamonds in angles, date above


125 (VG), 250 (F), 500 (VF), 1,100 (XF)


I never knew old Monégasque coins were so valuable.

 

[Tony (NC)]

Well....one thing is for sure......

I need to send this guy a Christmas card this year! Holy Cow! How cool is that? He said he's got a hundreds of Roman coins and a huge collection of coins from all over the world. He inherited the collection and from what I understand, it's worth a fortune.
Hey I want to thank you guys for the information on these coins. You guys sure know your stuff! Thanks again for all your efforts Gentlemen. You are the best!

Tony

 

[Woodland Detectors]

Wow what a great set Tony! Congrats on the great ID, and shocker