Need Help Iding This Cross

[T Hunter]

This was found in a field of an old Homestead 1700s ? Any idea of age Thanks for the help . Have other pics if needed .Mark

 

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[BuckleBoy]

Messick81, who do you think ratted you out to the govt.? Could a DNA test tell if the hair belonged to George?

Well, the find was posted on a Public forum. Anyone can view this thread.


Are we dealing with a Troll here? Why the hell would the gov't be interested in one find made (presumably) on private property and (presumably) with owner's permission?


Is it because of the conspiracy theories, or the smoke and mirrors about a link to GW?

 

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[ivan salis]

yep one must never forget --- its a open to the public forum -- that includes --trolling archies * and other folks * from various places --- so be aware anything you write here in this open forum can be veiwed by everyone in the world with a computer -- posting anything anywhere on the internet is like running down the street yelling it at the top of your lungs all over the whole world.

 

[Messick81]

yes i do have permision to hunt the property any time i like and the land owner and i are very good friends. to answer your question about the gov. i don,t know who is talking to who.

 

[ivan salis]

how did they ID themselves ? --they did show you some form of ID's didn't they ? -- if not they could be "posers" seeking to sniff out info --- tell them nothing -- since its a private find on private land --- buzz off bub

 

[Messick81]

in regards to the question about the gov. contact thats what i was worried about they got me on my personal cell phone that i did not give out. and its a local gov. phone as well. i work for a small gav. agency

 

[ivan salis]

never give out info over the phone * --any person can say there anyone over the "phone" --- I say come see me "in person" and bring "proof" of who you are and what right you have to question me about anything when you come. -- I'll meet them at the door " ---to their may I come in? ---(to freely snoop about if you say yes) ---so I say "nope you can not come in my home" so stay out unless you have a warrant -- and if so where is it and whats it say its for and why. -- have a nice day.

 

[IronSpike]

Next time they call ask them if you can mail them some of the hair lock for testing

 

[naturegirl]

Oh my. I wondered about the GW connection. If it's possibly "his" I can see the Gov. wanting it. But I can't believe they'd contact you like that. It's a troll. I'd almost bet on it. The Gov. doesn't work well enough to be on this so soon. It's yours, you found it with permission. Protect it. It may be an important part of history, but the freedom of Americans is equally important.

naturegirl

 

[Messick81]

still researching will keep everyone posted as soon as i get some hard evidence

 

[Messick81]

just to let everyone know we are getting closer to some hard evidence and its looking like its going to be a match. i hope to know for sure in a few mor weeks at the lattest. thanks again

 

[Messick81]

just checking in. it is very difficult getting hard evidence in writing but i am not going to give up.it still looks like the cross is from the rev. war era. but need somthing in writing . i have a lot of in put but nothing in the paper form yet. also went to another site this week end and found a i.h. 1898 and a button with two guns crossed on it. it also apears to have the fasteners on the back i will try to post pics. later tonight thanks

 

[Messick81]

still working on this getting a little closer i think

 

[LadyDigger]

Messick81...just sent you a PM!

Congrats on an awesome find!
Annmarie (LadyDigger)

 

[Messick81]

lady digger thanks for the info i will put it to good use i have some one that is very good a the technical part of this research i hope to know a little more by this week end. i have about 20 loose ends right now so i have been slowed down a bit ,but the pase will quicken very soon. thanks again for the info

 

[Angelo]

Here's some info:

http://archives.uvamagazine.org/site/c.esJNK1PIJrH/b.4101969/

"Hair from more recent historical figures is often easier to come by than ancient hair. In the past 300 years, hair was often kept as a remembrance of affection—slipped inside lockets and the envelopes of love letters—or as relics of the dead, like Victorian mourning bracelets. When George Washington died, his family cut locks of his hair and gave them to mourners. Washington’s hair was passed down inside their families and eventually arrived in Macko’s lab at U.Va. via the Wilton House Museum in Richmond. Washington, it happens, was an omnivore. "I like to say that he had the perfect diet for a first president: he was a centrist," Macko says."

Tony

 

[Messick81]

tony thanks for the info. it,s been a long row to hoe. i know i am getting closer to finding out the owner of this cross,thiers just to many people involved with this not to. again thanks everyone for all the help i will post the final results when i have it in writing.

 

[GL]

Neato.

 

[Monty]

I think this one needs a green check mark. We know what it is, just don't agree on when it was. Monty

 

[INDIANMANIAC]

Just an idea for you fellas. Suppose the hair in the cross is from 1777, or sometime around that. Could it have been stored safely somewhere, and have been made later, say around the time Buckleboy says the piece resembled?

This is a fascinating find, and I look forward to hearing more details about this as they emerge. Thank you for taking the time to share this with us.
Anthony

If the hair would have been taken at his death if G.W.'s It would not be in 1777 anyhow, but later theoretically.

 

[INDIANMANIAC]

We will just have to sell it to the highest private bid dna cloning agency to see who comes out of the embryo. Then we could use him as a tourist attraction at the white house if he looked like G.W. & make big bucks! All in all, I would hide it & keep it & the story as secretive in your family & pass it on generation to generation. Someone would kill to own it if the allegations are true... God help your soul. Wait till the Free Masons learn of this, They will come after you like the Catholic Church.