Mystery At Mountain Lake.

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Who was the person whose final remains -- and possessions -- finally came to light again on Saturday, amid the muddy clods at the bottom of a dry lake?
By Shawna Morrison






PEARISBURG -- He wore a belt with a silver buckle and carried a fancy silver cigarette box, both engraved with elaborate cursive initials that appear to be "SCF."

His old McCreery wingtip shoes had Sullivan's Safety Cushion heels held in place with six nails.

His gold class ring carried the initials "MC" on one side and "CA" on the other, above images of trees carved into the metal. It bore a date on top that appears to signify that it is from the Class of '04 -- most likely 1904, Giles County sheriff's investigators say.

After his bones were discovered Saturday afternoon in the dried-up bed of Mountain Lake, investigators, forensics experts and anthropologists are trying hard to determine who "SCF" was -- if, of course, those were his initials and if the bones indeed belonged to a man.

"It is quite an interesting mystery and a unique case," said Donna Boyd, a Radford University anthropologist who is one of many people trying to piece together bits of information to learn who the person was and what happened to him or her.

One thing is certain: The remains that Timmy Dalton stumbled across as he searched the lake bed for treasures Saturday afternoon did belong to a person.

"There's nothing that looked like a body laying there," Giles County Sgt. Tommy Gautier said Monday. Only fragments of bones, including a rounded piece that appears to be part of a skull, were found, he said. A medical examiner confirmed that they were human, he said.

Dalton said he didn't realize what he had found at first, either.

He and his 14-year-old son, Chris, were combing the lake bed Saturday afternoon for old soda bottles to collect, something they have been doing about once a week for the past couple of months.

Chris called to his dad and told him he had found a pocketknife, a wallet and some shoes.

Dalton said it isn't unusual to find shoes and other items of clothing in the muck. He didn't think much of it until he turned over some dirt and found what he thought was a turtle shell. He then realized it looked a lot like part of a skull.

Chris and Timmy Dalton kept digging around, finding the class ring, the belt buckle, a dime from 1910 and a tooth.

They took some of the items home. But later that day, it nagged at Timmy Dalton that he might actually have found a person and that person's belongings. He called the sheriff's office and handed over to them all the items he had found.

"I just hope that it helps somebody," the still-stunned Dalton said.

Like Giles County investigators, Dalton has been searching the Internet for information about the clues he has, trying to find out more about McCreery shoes and what the initials "MC" and "CA" might stand for on the class ring.

In their Pearisburg office Monday, Giles County investigators were also searching online, but without much luck. They were focusing their efforts on dating the items that were found near the remains so they can narrow their search for missing persons reports.

Some of the items they found were buried underneath chunks of dried mud 6 to 8 inches thick.

The items were all found in an area of about 10 square feet, Gautier said. Based on what they have found, he said, investigators think the person died between 1920 and 1960. Coins found near the remains dated from 1907 to 1920 and included a wheat penny and a half-dollar.

They contacted four dentists to ask about the metal stud that protrudes from the end of the tooth they found. They learned it was a crown, the kind that would have been made in the 1950s or earlier.

Investigators cleaned a key found near the body by placing it in a little foam cup filled with hydrogen peroxide. They were able to make out lettering that signified the key was made by the Norwalk Lock Co., a company that dates to the 1800s.

They've also looked into the history of Mountain Lake and its hotel.

The first hotel, a wooden structure, was built at Mountain Lake in 1855 by Henley Chapman, Giles County's first commonwealth's attorney.

It was bought in 1869 by Herman Haupt, a Union general. He built an addition and had the railroad extended from Christiansburg to Pembroke so his friends wouldn't have to travel to the hotel by horse.

The hotel changed hands a couple more times before it was torn down in the late 1930s. Its owner at the time, William Moody of Galveston, Texas, built the stone hotel that stands today.

When Moody died in 1954, he left the property to his daughter, Mary Moody Northen. She bequeathed it to the Mary Moody Northen Endowment when she died in 1986.

The hit movie "Dirty Dancing" was filmed there the same year.

Mountain Lake has been filled with water for years but is now almost completely dry. The lake periodically dries up, then refills itself.

According to core samples taken by Virginia Tech biologist Bruce Parker and his former students, Mountain Lake has dried up at least six times in the past 4,500 years and at times remained dry for decades.

Investigators said they are grateful that the lake is dry now, giving them the chance to uncover the mystery that could have been mired forever in the bottom of a full lake.

It could take months to determine who the person was, Giles County Sheriff Morgan Millirons said.

"We're turning over every rock that we can find to try to find some information," Millirons said.

Boyd said she will conduct a basic forensic analysis to determine the person's age at death, sex, ancestry and stature in the next week or so.

Millirons said one doctor told him that the bones appear to have been at the bottom of the lake for 30 to 40 years. That number was based on their condition, he said.

Investigators asked hotel officials if they recalled any reports of missing people, but there were none.

"We're going to have to go back to old newspapers and check with some of the elderly people around to see what they remember," Millirons said. "We're just trying to figure out who it is, how long it has been there. And why."
 

trikikiwi said:
Strange, I just was wondering today about this thread and up pops this. Thanks Ferrous.

Mike

Sure. Even though the victim has apparently been identified I wonder if the police will find evidence of foul play. This bit seems odd...

"The other people "saw him fall from the bow of the boat into the lake. He seemed to choke and struggle for an instant and then he was engulfed by the moonlit waves," leading his friends to believe he may have suffered from heart failure, the article said."

Strange that his wife and another couple watched him struggle instead of diving in to help. And then there's the mysterious scratch on the ring... hmmm.
 

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OMG...I had the right person!!! I did some research on this when this post was made...researching "Mountain Lake" and "Drowings" and found an article from:

Kingsport Times
Kingsport, Tennessee
29 July 1921
DIVE FOR BODY
(By Associated Press)
Mountain Lake, Va., July 29.—A deep sea diver arrived here last night and tomorrow will begin a search of Mountain Lake for the body of S. I. Felder, of Troy, N. Y., who fell over-board and drowned late Saturday night while boating with a party of friends.


Next time I will follow my instincts and post! I did not, however, connect the college, nor did I do any genealogy research...I was just searching the newspapers. I save ALL things I research, regardless if I post or not. Sometimes I am not sure of myself on the research and don't like making a fool of myself!!!

Kudos to those guys, who have about 10-15 years on me in the genealogy department!!! Great research. After reading the results of the research...I found his father is John and mother is Viola and he had several brothers and a sister, one brother named Keating.

Love a good mystery! Glad to hear he has been identified.
Annmarie

PS: The BOWMAN name rang a bell and re-found this article...not sure if it's a connection.........

The Florence Morning News
Florence, South Carolina
22 July 1946
Last Rites Today Mrs. Mary Glover
Mrs. Mary Bowman Glover, 71, wife of Norman Glover of 311 West Darlington street, died at four o'clock Monday at The McLeod Infirmary after a long Illness. For the past six years, Mrs. Glover had been a resident of this city. Funeral services will be held at three o'clock Tuesday afternoon at the Church of God at Orangeburg. S. C., and will be conducted by the Rev. W. Frank Smith, assisted by the Rev. Gary Byrd, pastors of the Church of God of Florence. The interment will be in the Orangeburg cemetery. The body of Mrs. Glover will be carried from the Waters Funeral Home at 10:30 o'clock Tuesday morning to Orangeburg where the funeral services will be held. Mrs. Glover was born March 18, 1872, in Orangeburg County, being the daughter of the late Caleb and Mildred Bowman, both also of Orangeburg county. Her first husband was the late Samuel Felder who died many years ago. She was a member of the church of God. She Is survived by her husband, Norman Glover of Florence, three daughters; Mrs. Elizabeth Thompson Of Portsmouth, Va., Mrs. P. M. Brabham of this cily, Mrs. Ethel Gregory of Orangeburg and a brother, Dan Bowman of Greensboro, N. C.


I wonder if Dan Bowman is connected to Al Bowman, as mentioned in that newspaper article those guys found in their research. But when I went to look at the census records they mentioned...it appears CATHERINE was atleast 10 years younger than Samuel. I am sure there were lots of Samuel Felder's in the Orangeburg area, but I thought it strange that BOWMAN and FELDER in this article were connected as they were in the 1921 article the guys found!

Ok...I still think it odd that BOWMAN and FELDER are in two different articles 20 some years apart....but I did find this Samuel Felder on the 1900 Orangeburg, SC census. They had been married 10 years and her brother, Daniel Bowman is living with them. They have 3 daus listed on the census: Maggie E. (could be Mrs. Elizabeth Thompson), Lavinia, and Willie. So, it could be quite a coincidence...and maybe Al Bowman was a FAMILY friend of S.I. Felder or maybe a cousin??
 

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Ron and Ann said:
Next time I will follow my instincts and post!
I wish you would have posted. You could have made us look good. :D
 

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I was correct on the ring being a college class of (1904) "04 ring (and I knew that IDing the ring was the "key" to solving it --find the college --look up 04 class with the SF find your man ---)---used the 04 grad date info to figger out his rough age ( I said 38) well I was off by a year --he was 37* -- I said he said died in the early 1920's --(due to latest coinage on him being dated 1920 on him) he died in 1921* --- fairly on the money there -- I said middle aged male well to do (college educated / gold ring & silver items) -- check -- its a odd thing to me that according to the newspaper account they saw him go over board yet they did not dive in or try to assist him* it seems (foul play? or simple --maybe none of them could swim or they knew a drowning person can often kill a person trying to help them*) --- my baby brother almost did that to me once he had a floatie stryofoam float ball on thus he was in no danger but he got out in deep water over his head where he could not feel bottom and was going crazy so I went to help -- the little booger climbed on top my head --- forcing me under and almost drowning me !!! pop saw it and thankfully came out and pried him off me thus saving me. -- in his statemy little brother was gorilla strong and not easy to pry off. )-- in the newspaper account they say it seemed as though he had a heart attack but isn't 37 is awfully young for a heart attack* even back then? ---accidentail death or not? only those that were there at the time will ever know that for sure it seems -- and like him their long dead by now-- however no matter what "occured" ---its a good thing that he will finally get a proper resting place.--- Ivan

seems Samuel Felder wifes maiden name was Mary Bowden* -- she later married man named Glover of south carolina it seems --- Al Bowden (kin to the wife most likely-- brother / cousin) and nancy logan his "gal" --were with SF and his wife when the accident occured*--
 

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