Mystery At Mountain Lake.

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Who was the person whose final remains -- and possessions -- finally came to light again on Saturday, amid the muddy clods at the bottom of a dry lake?
By Shawna Morrison






PEARISBURG -- He wore a belt with a silver buckle and carried a fancy silver cigarette box, both engraved with elaborate cursive initials that appear to be "SCF."

His old McCreery wingtip shoes had Sullivan's Safety Cushion heels held in place with six nails.

His gold class ring carried the initials "MC" on one side and "CA" on the other, above images of trees carved into the metal. It bore a date on top that appears to signify that it is from the Class of '04 -- most likely 1904, Giles County sheriff's investigators say.

After his bones were discovered Saturday afternoon in the dried-up bed of Mountain Lake, investigators, forensics experts and anthropologists are trying hard to determine who "SCF" was -- if, of course, those were his initials and if the bones indeed belonged to a man.

"It is quite an interesting mystery and a unique case," said Donna Boyd, a Radford University anthropologist who is one of many people trying to piece together bits of information to learn who the person was and what happened to him or her.

One thing is certain: The remains that Timmy Dalton stumbled across as he searched the lake bed for treasures Saturday afternoon did belong to a person.

"There's nothing that looked like a body laying there," Giles County Sgt. Tommy Gautier said Monday. Only fragments of bones, including a rounded piece that appears to be part of a skull, were found, he said. A medical examiner confirmed that they were human, he said.

Dalton said he didn't realize what he had found at first, either.

He and his 14-year-old son, Chris, were combing the lake bed Saturday afternoon for old soda bottles to collect, something they have been doing about once a week for the past couple of months.

Chris called to his dad and told him he had found a pocketknife, a wallet and some shoes.

Dalton said it isn't unusual to find shoes and other items of clothing in the muck. He didn't think much of it until he turned over some dirt and found what he thought was a turtle shell. He then realized it looked a lot like part of a skull.

Chris and Timmy Dalton kept digging around, finding the class ring, the belt buckle, a dime from 1910 and a tooth.

They took some of the items home. But later that day, it nagged at Timmy Dalton that he might actually have found a person and that person's belongings. He called the sheriff's office and handed over to them all the items he had found.

"I just hope that it helps somebody," the still-stunned Dalton said.

Like Giles County investigators, Dalton has been searching the Internet for information about the clues he has, trying to find out more about McCreery shoes and what the initials "MC" and "CA" might stand for on the class ring.

In their Pearisburg office Monday, Giles County investigators were also searching online, but without much luck. They were focusing their efforts on dating the items that were found near the remains so they can narrow their search for missing persons reports.

Some of the items they found were buried underneath chunks of dried mud 6 to 8 inches thick.

The items were all found in an area of about 10 square feet, Gautier said. Based on what they have found, he said, investigators think the person died between 1920 and 1960. Coins found near the remains dated from 1907 to 1920 and included a wheat penny and a half-dollar.

They contacted four dentists to ask about the metal stud that protrudes from the end of the tooth they found. They learned it was a crown, the kind that would have been made in the 1950s or earlier.

Investigators cleaned a key found near the body by placing it in a little foam cup filled with hydrogen peroxide. They were able to make out lettering that signified the key was made by the Norwalk Lock Co., a company that dates to the 1800s.

They've also looked into the history of Mountain Lake and its hotel.

The first hotel, a wooden structure, was built at Mountain Lake in 1855 by Henley Chapman, Giles County's first commonwealth's attorney.

It was bought in 1869 by Herman Haupt, a Union general. He built an addition and had the railroad extended from Christiansburg to Pembroke so his friends wouldn't have to travel to the hotel by horse.

The hotel changed hands a couple more times before it was torn down in the late 1930s. Its owner at the time, William Moody of Galveston, Texas, built the stone hotel that stands today.

When Moody died in 1954, he left the property to his daughter, Mary Moody Northen. She bequeathed it to the Mary Moody Northen Endowment when she died in 1986.

The hit movie "Dirty Dancing" was filmed there the same year.

Mountain Lake has been filled with water for years but is now almost completely dry. The lake periodically dries up, then refills itself.

According to core samples taken by Virginia Tech biologist Bruce Parker and his former students, Mountain Lake has dried up at least six times in the past 4,500 years and at times remained dry for decades.

Investigators said they are grateful that the lake is dry now, giving them the chance to uncover the mystery that could have been mired forever in the bottom of a full lake.

It could take months to determine who the person was, Giles County Sheriff Morgan Millirons said.

"We're turning over every rock that we can find to try to find some information," Millirons said.

Boyd said she will conduct a basic forensic analysis to determine the person's age at death, sex, ancestry and stature in the next week or so.

Millirons said one doctor told him that the bones appear to have been at the bottom of the lake for 30 to 40 years. That number was based on their condition, he said.

Investigators asked hotel officials if they recalled any reports of missing people, but there were none.

"We're going to have to go back to old newspapers and check with some of the elderly people around to see what they remember," Millirons said. "We're just trying to figure out who it is, how long it has been there. And why."
 

Look towards the bottom of the article like the one GEMEE posted. There's others looking for info.

Here's a copy of the ring I believe.

Tony
 

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WOW. This is where I grew up. The lake is slowly drying up--even though it was a natural lake on top of the Appalachian Mountains--and nobody has been able to figure out that mystery either.


CREEPY!


That photo of those shoes in the lake bed is pretty haunting.



-Buckleboy
 

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Dang mouse over pics! thought i was losing my mind for minute thinking my browser was having trouble loading the pics!

Great find BB!
 

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nice pics of the makers mark , the "B" with the star should be not hard to find in a jewelers hand book on marks, D for Denver, Co :icon_study:
 

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Wing tip shoes just came into fashion in the 1920's ....so that should be a clue right there
 

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They need to search the hotel registry for 1920-1921 and see if those initials match a guests....and there were over 100 families that owned cabins along the lake in those years that were used as summer homes.....
 

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Wow what a great mystery...imagination soars...awesome post :thumbsup:
 

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My dad ran a shoe shop for 50 years. I remember that Sullivan heels were the expensive ones and were found on expensive shoes. The remains found had a crowned tooth, a silver buckle, and a silver cigarette box both engraved. He also had a gold ring. This was a man of means. The newest coin was dated 1920, so I would say he died around 1921/24. The average man didn't have things like that in the '20s. The ring might not be a class ring but some other custom design. The setting in the ring is cracked does mean foul play??? I don't think he would have been out fishing wearing expensive dress shoes. An upper crust guy like this just doesn't disapear and go unreported,,, unless that's the way someone wanted it. Tony
 

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Hmmm, wonder if our victim was GUT SHOT ? you would think that a body that would of floated due to the decay and internal gases

that occur , would of bin noticed by the hotel guests /boaters/swimmers in the area. If Gut Shot , there would be no build up of gases

one would think , unless the individual drowned in late fall after tourist season. :icon_study:
 

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i agree with Tony.....Mountain Lake Resort at that time was a playground for the wealthy ......if he graduated in 1904 then he was in his twenties....young,wealthy, a dandy dresser ,hmmmmmm....you would think he would be missed by someone.........there were boating activities ....he wouldnt have to be fishing .....got a little fresh with a young woman and she dumped him overboard.....
 

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YES, I WOULD AGREE , KNIFED OR SHOT AND DUMPED FOR THE DEEP "6" , OUR BOY WOULD OF BIN MISSED UNLESS HE WAS FROM OUT OF STATE , WONDER IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO CHECK THE MISSING PERSONS REPORTS FOR THE TIME PERIOD FOR A
MIDDLE TO UPPER CLASS MISSING INDIVIDUAL OF MID 20'S TO MID 30'S THAT WENT MISSING ON VACATION
 

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Definantley an interesting story, and sounds like something that may never be solved. I'm sure the police detectives have thier work cut out for them on this one. You would definantley think that someone of the nature with a little bit of wealth would have been missed by someone. Although back in that time period you had the gangsters and mafia that got rid of alot of people and seemed to know what they were doing or atleast had the police on thier payroll. So who knows if there will be any info that can be found to solve the mystery. I wish the police out there lots of luck and hope they can figure it out.
 

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Does anyone have an idea what the ring face characters represent?

Tony
 

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MC CA ---humm M? college (MC) --califorina (CA) ? class of 1904 he would have been about 22 years old -- if a high school ring about 18 (doubtful in my veiw --most likey a college ring*)-- def a "cold case" if there ever was one. -- due to coins found say its a early 20's body---if he grad from college in 1904 at say 22 years of age (due to the ring readind "04" ) add at least the number of years to the oldest coin found on him -- (say a 1920 coin) 1904 to 1920 add +16 years that would make him about 38 years old in 1920 -- he was well off -- good quailty shoes -- silver belt buckle & silver cigarettte case --gold ring --quality dental care -- wingtips were men's shoes so its a male.

the key to this is the ring * find out where it belongs to the --check for their grad class 1904 -- match up SCF to the names on the grad class list. then you'll have a "name" to research.

the ring face is "04" in "fancy script" by the waygiven the time frame I'd say -- it meant class of 19"04" --

so it appears to be to me on first glace -- a better off middlle aged man (38 ish years of age) that grad from a school MC ?(medical college) in califorina (CA) class of 1904 * --that died / was murdered in about early 1920 's time frame while visiting the area. --- MC could stand for medical college* a doctor maybe? ca can stand for college of arts again the key is the ring match the ring find your "man" --being far from the west coast * folks might not have known where he went off to when he dissappeared.

humm the hall mark could help the star B hall mark and the C D CO (C D company?) might help some in IDing the maker of the ring -- then by knowing the makers city or who they made rings for it might guide you somewhat .
 

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