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When people steal stop signs, yield signs, other regulatory signs and sign posts to cash in for scrap...it is time to do something
The goal here is deterring crime.
Some of you guys seem to be dragging over the political soapbox.
The goal here is deterring crime. Doesn't that sound more plausible?
In Oregon, you now need a permit to even haul the metal
Tebow said:I search and I search ... yet I have not found anywhere in the US Constitution that that is the goal of government ... their charge, their objective. Namely, deterring crime. Their charge is to do no such thing. Their charge is to not use the guns of the State to impinge upon my personal liberties and freedoms. They have no charge. Get it? They are restricted - that is, of course, providing that their are enough of the 'Anti-Big Government' folks around to outvote you.
All of these laws that are being talked about in this thread are State or Municipal laws, not Federal ones... Senate bill 570 is an Oregon State senate bill... not a US Senate bill
Tebow said:I was blown away after visitng Oregon about 8-9 years ago, stopped at the first gas station, and was blown away to learn that it was ILLEGAL for me to pump my own gas. Got out of the car, grabbed the nozzle, and was looked at like I just robbed a bank.
Apparently I am too stupid to pump my own gas and was forced, at the point of a gun (doubt me? try to pump your own gas in Oregon and see if somebody calls the cops - with guns) to PAY somebody else to do so.
If you report the money you get from coinroll hunting you need to keep track of all the miles you drive and your expenses cause I really doubt you are making much profit when you are driving all over the place and getting skunked over 50% of the time. Fuel food maintence you name it you have to take into account when you go coin roll hunting.ivan salis said:the govt wants to know if your making any income thats not being "reported" --once its "recorded" that you sold that scrap metal --they simple check that record vs your income taxes filed --if they do not "match up properly" guess who the IRS will be visiting very soon -- its really simple folks track every means of earning income possible --(including sell scrap metals) thus recording all that income , then tax it. --ah your gubbermint at work --gimme , gimme , gimme
oh and about that "hobby" you do ---coin rolling --you folks selling that "silver" you found ?--are you reporting that "income / gains" from selling that silver to the gubbermint ? if not you too might get ready to see the tax man from your freindly IRS --thats why they are watching the cash flow --