Minelab sues Deus

[Treasure_Hunter]

My moneys on Minelab......

 

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[seekerGH]

I would not put too much money on ML in this one.

As noted in previous posts, they didnt even really state a claim, and that has been illustrated by XP in the Court docs as well.

Their patent claim is overarching, and very vaque, and as XP has shown, there are many others with patents on on the same/similar claims.
There are also the patents that XP themselves have.

It does not appear that XP is going to roll over like Whites did.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Money still on ML...

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[austin_luker]

ML fanboy are we? I see your gear list is nothing but ML? Do you also have stock in the company or get a little something from them since your a mod on this forum?

 

[seekerGH]

Will be interesting to see the outcome, especially with the rumours of the sale of ML hobby line.

Aside from that, and combined with the release of long awaited products from XP, I think that at least they feel they have prevailed.

 

[Joe hunter]

There seems to be a few fans of other detectors creeping around the XP forum .
Perhaps a little curious?Its ok you can come play with us FOREVER!

 

[Iron Buzz]

Looks like XP is trying to prove failure to state a claim....

lotz of activity for certain.

As we have noted before, there are many, many patents and prior art...

I dont want to pay for PACER, so will have to see what happens. The proposed order would be interesting to view.

EDIT: Looks like XP is doing a lot of fronting for Whites, Garret, and themselves...this will be interesting

Check Google for those U.S. Patent numbers.
Example: https://www.google.com/patents/US4868910

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

ML fanboy are we? I see your gear list is nothing but ML? Do you also have stock in the company or get a little something from them since your a mod on this forum?

I have owned and used Whites, Tesoro, Troy and Fishers, just found I like Minelabs the best. Mods do not get paid and Minelab is not a supporting vendor here.

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[austin_luker]

Good to know! Thank you

 

[seekerGH]

Check Google for those U.S. Patent numbers.

Yes, that is why I stated that XP is fronting for Whites, Garret, and others in showing that there is nothing special in the ML patent with prior art and/or other patents.

 

[Prius]

Hi Seeker. What is fronting?

 

[Rawhide]

Best form of flattery is imitation. Its also called piracy.

 

[seekerGH]

Hi Seeker. What is fronting?

They are fighting a battle for not only themselves, but for the other Companies against ML, by trying to show that the ML patent is full of prior art and other patents by others, sortof paving the path for others.

This could also provide a foundation for the ML Patent to be reviewed, and perhaps a request for dismissal.

 

[vferrari]

Best form of flattery is imitation. Its also called piracy.

Unauthorized replication (not imitation) of digital media or software is typically considered "piracy" since it is considered digital copyright infringement. "Piracy" has not been alleged in this case as far as I can tell based on reading the available documentation. Where did you get the information this was a "piracy"/copyright infringement case? Or were you just making a general statement?

Again, imitation can only be considered infringement or "piracy," as appropriate, if the intellectual property is protected through a patent, copyright, or registered trademark, etc. and theft of that intellectual property is proven through legal proceedings. Just reacting to your use of the term "piracy" which is typically used in a specific context not necesssrily applicable in this csse AFAICT. However as I am not an attorney, I could be mistaken and welcome being set straight by the experts.

 

[Deft Tones]

Bailiff, whack his PP!



Edit: P.P. in law is Propria persona; in his own person.

 

[vferrari]

Bailiff, whack his PP!



Edit: P.P. in law is Propria persona; in his own person.

Lol. Wish I could remember the name of the Cheech and Chong record from which you "pirated" that quote DT. Those were the days...

 

[RustyGold]

Bailiff, whack his PP!



Edit: P.P. in law is Propria persona; in his own person.

Oh, I thought it meant PinPointer!

 

[Carl-NC]

Lol. Wish I could remember the name of the Cheech and Chong record from which you "pirated" that quote DT. Those were the days...

Debut album, just "Cheech & Chong."

 

[Deft Tones]

Dave's not here!

Carl knows his Cheech and Chong! ...lol!

 

[seekerGH]

In a very wordy opinion, the Motion to Dismiss by DEC was denied. It revolves around around claims 10 and 15 of the patent 7310586

10. A method for operating a metal detector of a type which includes the ability to select values of operating parameters and to store such values as data, the method including the steps of:
a. receiving operating parameter data via an electronic transmission link from a data source external to the metal detector, the operating parameter data being a set of values of operating parameters,
b. storing the operating parameter data in an electronic memory within the metal detector, and
c. modifying the operating parameters of the metal detector to conform to the set of values of operating parameters specified by the operating parameter data,
wherein the electronic transmission link includes a wireless connection transmitting through space between the metal detector and the external data source.

15. A method for operating a metal detector as in claim 10 wherein the operating parameters include one or more of:
a. filters to be applied to a receive search signal;
b. an amplitude range of a conductance component of a receive search signal;
c. an amplitude range of an inductive component of a receive search signal; and
d. an information set indicating the values of one or more user modifiable settings of the detector.

Looks like the fun will continue now.