Minelab sues Deus

[Gone Detectin]

Back to where this thread started..

Im looking forward to hearing what Minelabs reason for suing them is..

Its also odd Minelab wants a jury based trial.. Can you imagine a jury full of people that know nothing about metal detector technology? I bet Minelab can.

 

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[Gone Detectin]

I found out they are trying to sue them for the same thing they sued Whites for. Patent US7310586.


Good grief .. What a joke of a patent.

Wonder what people are going to think if Minelab loses after Whites settled?

Minelab is sueing xp for --

10. A method for operating a metal detector of a type which includes the ability to select values of operating parameters and to store such values as data, the method including the steps of:
a. receiving operating parameter data via an electronic transmission link from a data source external to the metal detector, the operating parameter data being a set of values of operating parameters,
b. storing the operating parameter data in an electronic memory within the metal detector, and
c. modifying the operating parameters of the metal detector to conform to the set of values of operating parameters specified by the operating parameter data,
wherein the electronic transmission link includes a wireless connection transmitting through space between the metal detector and the external data source.

And --

15. A method for operating a metal detector as in claim 10 wherein the operating parameters include one or more of:
a. filters to be applied to a receive search signal;
b. an amplitude range of a conductance component of a receive search signal;
c. an amplitude range of an inductive component of a receive search signal; and
d. an information set indicating the values of one or more user modifiable settings of the detector.

So basically your metal detector is not allowed to :

Filter a received signal. - Im looking to see how this is defined..
Have an amplitude range of a conductive component? - Looking to see how this is defined..
Have an amplitude range of a inductive component? - Looking to see how this is defined..
And you cant have user settings

 

[gwdigger]

I removed my comment to keep topic on point.

 

[Gone Detectin]

Can we keep this thread on topic?

 

[vferrari]

Sure. We can rehash for the umpteenth time in this thread since January that the Minelab patent is weak and then have the minelab proponents come out to disagree yet again or we can endlessly argue about the merits of harnesses again. I say we come up with another off topic tangent or the mods can close the thread and put it out of it's misery since we are not plowing any new ground. Lol.

 

[Gone Detectin]

Sure. We can rehash for the umpteenth time in this thread since January that the Minelab patent is weak and then have the minelab proponents come out to disagree yet again or we can endlessly argue about the merits of harnesses again. I say we come up with another off topic tangent or the mods can close the thread and put it out of it's misery since we are not plowing any new ground. Lol.

Ok take it back to the harnesses.

 

[vferrari]

Ok take it back to the harnesses.

 

[ColonelDan]

Does your friend with the Deus have severe shoulder issues or is he just used to swinging with a harness? I ask because I like the Deus as a no fuss, no muss minimal setup detector I can just grab out of the back of the vehicle and hit the site with minimal hassle. I have never thought of donning a harness with it as I am able to swing it all day and certainly for a few hours at a time and I am by no means a picture of orthopedic health lol. On the other hand, no sense in trying to be a hero out there if you have a bum shoulder or if you already have the harness strapped on to accommodate another detector, I suppose.

Vferrari, I'm the hunting buddy Treasure Hunter refers to who uses a harness for every detector in my arsenal...including the Deus.

There are several reasons I prefer such a set up...and I totally agree it's a personal choice:


1. My harness doubles as a hydra pack and detecting in Florida...regardless of the "season" one dares not go without a lot of water. I can carry much more water in my hydra pack (strapped to my back) than I care to have hanging off my belt in a bottle or canteen.

2. All my accessories (finds bag, digger, pin pointer, waterproof case, small brush plus notebook and pen/pencil if needed for my reports ) are attached to my harness at all times so I need only pick up the harness and everything else comes with it.

3. I can let go of the detector and do whatever with both hands free i.e. take notes on testing results or finds and the detector stays right by my side...not on the ground, in the mud or in the water.

Let me also assure you, using a harness with the Deus is NOT because of its "extreme" weight! It's just more convenient for me for the reasons stated above.

Just the personal view from my foxhole

Edited note: Just to clarify my mention of reports; I do voluntary field testing and archaeological surveys for Kellyco ergo the need for pen/pencil and a clean and dry notebook.

 

[vferrari]

Colonol Dan - for what you are doing it makes perfect sense to use a harness regardless what detector you are using and especially if you are frequently swapping detectors in the field. I have done a little archeological detecting but have been lucky to have been paired up with an archeologist doing the paperwork and switching off with them. Everyone wanted their chance to do the fun stuff...you know, paperwork. Lol.

Treasure Hunter - forgot to comment that I agree that using a harness in the water, especially in surf or hip deep water, is practically essential.

 

[seekerGH]

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[vferrari]

Thanks for the update.

 

[seekerGH]

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ORDER OF COURT. This action has been resolved and the only matter remaining to be completed is the submission of a stipulation for dismissal. IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that the Clerk mark the above-captioned action CLOSED. IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that the Court expressly retains jurisdiction of this matter to consider any issue arising during the period when such stipulation is being finalized, including but not limited to enforcing any settlement. Signed by Judge Mark R. Hornak on 10/20/17. Modified on 10/20/17 to add document to entry. (bdb)




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NOTICE of Settlement Agreement in Principle (Joint Notice) by DETECTOR ELECTRONICS CORP., XP METAL DETECTORS (Verdini, Christopher)

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[Theppgcowboy]

English version?

 

[Xraywolf]

Ok like, so ,,, Who prevailed ?

 

[Keppy]

Ok like, so ,,, Who prevailed ?

Good question for i do not know.

 

[vferrari]

Looks like XP settled out of court to me.

 

[seekerGH]

Ok like, so ,,, Who prevailed ?

This is fresh off the Court docket. It was settled out of Court, so there is no way to determine what the provisions are until we here from one of the Companies.

 

[Notsuredomus]

That's ridiculous. If I copy-write a song in C major I prove that I own the song but I don't own the rights to the key of C

 

[Iron Buzz]

That's ridiculous. If I copy-write a song in C major I prove that I own the song but I don't own the rights to the key of C

I agree that this case seems bogus to me, but you can't compare a copyright with a patent. They are not the same thing.

 

[Geronimo_]

XP 1-0 MINELAB !!!!

https://www.pacermonitor.com/public...ELECRONICS_PTY_LTD_v_XP_METAL_DETECTORS_et_al

Take that in your face !!!!!!!!!!!