Military? WWI?

[verbious]

My sister and my niece were out digging tonight. My niece found this. I found 2 great seal buttons in this vicinity. I appreciate all of your input and my niece is dying to know what she has!

Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk

 

Amazon Forum Fav 👍

Treasure of Victoria Peak - Grab it through Amazon!

[nhbenz]

Interesting find. Could we see the back?

 

[verbious]

The back and front again with a quarter for scale.

Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk

 

[relic nut]

That's dam cool!! Maybe it's a Bridle Rosette?

HH, RN

 

[verbious]

Dang! This one must have people stumped! I've scoured the net and cant find anything. lol

 

[coloradocav1]

been hunting military relics for 30 yrs, never even saw such an item, not even in a book. really
awesome looking piece. I'll ask some of my other relic buddies if they've ever seen one.

 

[smokeythecat]

I've never seen one myself.

 

[coloradocav1]

is that lead on the back? or solid brass?

 

[ecmo]

Military revolver holster flap estuacion?

Don

 

[ecmo]

O.k. so after commenting above, goggled the holsters and only found oval U.S. stamping in leather. So tried kipi cap bages/emblems next and the eleventh row down had one very similar to yours but without duel bands or border like yours so still no help.

The badge on the leather frog for the bayonet I believe we're circular but you may want to check.

Don

 

[verbious]

It's a tough one for sure. I've tried googling many search terms, I guess I don't have enough vocabulary or knowledge of what the item could have been used for. I do thank you folks for all of your suggestions and comments!

Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk

 

[verbious]

It would be awesome if it was Civil war era! I'm thinking it's later.

Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk

 

[Itsmine]

Because it's so small, I'm thinking it could be a ammo/cartridge pouch medallion. Possibly Civil War or a little later than that......Some of them were very small, not much bigger than a modern day wallet, but they still had the U.S. oval plate on them. Check these out. https://www.google.com/search?q=OPE...b7oHmBF8YHHYxT_1rvyoSCdBxDI7-u1CTEeA-TcClLMiG

 

[verbious]

Thank you. I saw some of those that looked very close.

Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk

 

[DCMatt]

Assuming this was found in Allegheny County, PA...?


I'm thinking it's WWI as you say you found Great Seal buttons nearby.`Based on the attachment points, I would say it is a horse related piece.


Pennsylvania Nat'l Guard troops and provincial Cavalry were called up to quell labor riots in the county in 1916.


This picture shows troops camped at Braddock, PA - May 4 1916.

 

[verbious]

Yes it was Allegheny county. Kinda far from Braddock. I've dug through many internet sites trying to find anyone that could have served in the national guard or was drafted into WWI.

The property was farmed for decades, there were many coal mines and flagstone quarries in the area. An 1862 map of the property shows a private road on the land. I am also very certain that a lookout tower was constructed between 1956 and 1959 that was used during the Cuban missile crisis, considering there was a Nike missile site about 2 miles away from the tower location.

Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk

 

[DCMatt]

Any back marks on the Great Seal buttons? That might give us a time frame.

 

[verbious]

NY BUTTON WORKS

Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk

 

[DCMatt]

NY BUTTON WORKS apparently covers a wide range of years up to 1955.


Can you post front & back pics of the buttons?


There is a VERY long thread here on Tnet whcih attempts to document Great Seal button back marks.


Yours may add to the list.


http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/112828-great-seal-button-backmarks-help.html


Thx


DCMatt

 

[verbious]

I don't have a picture of the back mark. I crossed it against a list someone posted. What do you think?

Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk