Military eagle whatsit

[Gary66]

This thing is paper thin and I've been wanting some ID for quite a bit..any info or guess would be appreciated.

It looks like there was a spot at the top that a ribbon could have gone thru.

Found on land G.W owned.

 

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[DirtDigler]

This is the problem with comments online. One can't hear the tone or inflection of the comment, so it can be taken as a slur or a snide remark. But sometimes it's just all in fun. I've been guilty of it myself. In the future I'll try to be the duck and let it slide off my back. We have a hard enough time fighting ticks, heat, mosquitos, hard clay and hacking through roots.

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

This is the problem with comments online. One can't hear the tone or inflection of the comment, so it can be taken as a slur or a snide remark.

Very very true. Come back Gary. We dont want to lose any members. Maybe your just busy.

It might help if we all remove our comments that could be misunderstood.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I worked hard on this Gary. What do you think? Do you think its a match? Could yours have a shield?

 

[Sky Pilot]

Gary I apologize if I offended you any way.

I removed my questionable post and we're waiting for you to answer Gary!

Big Cypress Hunter has put a lot of time into this, the least we can do is work with him! Even if you were offended by the rest of us, you ought not take it out on the one that's trying to help you.

Come on Gary, what do you say?


Sky Pilot

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Thanks pilot. I removed one of my posts as well. I hope I havent offended anyone.

 

[Sky Pilot]

No problem, BigCypress. I really don't think we did, but it's all subjective I reckon. Hopefully Gary66 will answer us soon!



Sky Pilot

 

[Gary66]

I've taken three more pics and as you can see this thing is hard pressed to reach an inch..second pic is thickness and third is the back pic.

Thanks for the help
Gary

 

[Sky Pilot]

Cool!! Thanks Gary!! I'd say Big Cypress can work with those!!


Sky Pilot

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Thanks for the new pics. I was just wondering if you thought it was a match. The size is right for a button. I definitely see a globe but Im not sure if it has a shield.

 

[CRUSADER]

Thanks for the new pics. I was just wondering if you thought it was a match. The size is right for a button. I definitely see a globe but Im not sure if it has a shield.

side view points to a top of button

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I see the longitude latitude globe lines.

 

[Gary66]

After looking close..yes there is a globe

It's so worn away I don't know if there was shield in the middle of the chest or not.

What year(s) would that have dated from if it is what you posted a link to?

See the only thing that has me thinking that it wasn't a button
is the slot above the eagles head. Like it did hang from a ribbon or
was a fob.

I do know that at some point there had to have been more to it
as it is paper thin and very delicate.

I believe you are on the right track tho.

Thank you

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

What year(s) would that have dated from if it is what you posted a link to?

If its a 2 piece Geodetic Survey button like I think it is, it would be late 19th century-early 20th. Ill have to research it more. Yours looks like the thin front of a 2 or 3 piece button (hollow inside) 2 or 3 piece buttons are no older than about 1850 I think.

After looking close..yes there is a globe

It's so worn away I don't know if there was shield in the middle of the chest or not.

See the only thing that has me thinking that it wasn't a button
is the slot above the eagles head. Like it did hang from a ribbon or
was a fob.

I do know that at some point there had to have been more to it
as it is paper thin and very delicate.

I believe you are on the right track tho.

Thank you

ADDED: A fob or medallion would be thicker. I think it broke and just looks like a slot. Looking closer at your new pics and you can see a rough edge.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I found another. This one made by N.S. Meyer. Buttons will have differences due to the different manufacturers. I havent found one without a shield but I think the wings are a match as well as the globe. The head is turned the same. It also would make sense where you found it. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=28933

 

[Gary66]

Man I went through every button on that site and yes it is the closest one BUT...There is no shield period...it's
just the eagles chest. My sister and I both sat here with reading glasses, good light and a magnifying glass
comparing the two. The head has no upturn at all...it's looking straight over. Maybe an early version?

Oh and I think ya have it on the tear as well.

Thanks
Gary

 

[IronSpike]

Found a match, but not an ID

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,251636.0.html

I don't think it's a button

 

[Gary66]

Dang...That's it.

Now what is it I wonder.

How in the heck do you guys find that stuff?...I sure do appreciate all the help!!

Thank you all

 

[Silver Searcher]

Found a match, but not an ID

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,251636.0.html

I don't think it's a button

Good match IS the bird looks like a Phoenix not a Eagle :P

SS

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Found a match, but not an ID

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,251636.0.html

I don't think it's a button

Good work. Im glad you noticed this thread IS. Thats it for sure... found in N.C. I didnt even think of searching our own database that is continually increasing with finds. The slot is just corroded.

I wonder why its so thin? Is it part of something else or just worn.

 

[CRUSADER]

Found a match, but not an ID

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,251636.0.html

I don't think it's a button

Good match IS the bird looks like a Phoenix not a Eagle :P

SS

I thought that as well, just wasn't sure why it was on a globe



http://www.ancientresource.com/images/coins-general/constantine-dynasty/cons-phoenix0279.jpg
I know of Roman coin's with that image, I've had a couple, but I think the Phoenix might be worth researching.