McGinnis Cross - Relic or Fraud?

[Armchair detective]

One of the McGinnis descendents showed Rock and Marty a small gold cross that according to family lore was a remnant of 3 treasure chests the original three found on Oak Island.

It was stated it was shown to a jeweler who said it could be up to 500 years old.
Another expert? said the cross originally had jewels in it which could have been easily knocked out as gold is a soft metal.

Cross is shown in the palm of a hand.

Picture quality related to phone picture snapped from analog TV.

Jurors?

 

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[Armchair detective]

Methinks its real.

 

[n2mini]

What I find more suspect then them having the cross whether or not their story is true or not, is that that there were 3 guys searching and they found 3 treasure boxes. I'm hoping that their original story has gotten changed over the years and they originally claimed to have found 1 chest that they were able to split evenly.. They each got "some treasure" and the story got changed along the way... If they were going to make the whole story up I would hope they would know that finding 3 chests would be unrealistic..

 

[pepperj]

What I find more suspect then them having the cross whether or not their story is true or not, is that that there were 3 guys searching and they found 3 treasure boxes. I'm hoping that their original story has gotten changed over the years and they originally claimed to have found 1 chest that they were able to split evenly.. They each got "some treasure" and the story got changed along the way... If they were going to make the whole story up I would hope they would know that finding 3 chests would be unrealistic..

It was like a little game we played in the small one room classroom.
35 kids, 2 different grades.

The teacher whispered something in the first child's ear.

That kid passed the message to the other.

By the time it got to the end of the 35 different versions.

Let's say it kind of resembled the original message but had many twists and turns, including subject matter.

This is how fables/stories are created.
It grows, gets a little more exciting to hold the interest of the ear.

By the end it is nothing more than a cow floppy.

 

[Armchair detective]

What I find more suspect then them having the cross whether or not their story is true or not, is that that there were 3 guys searching and they found 3 treasure boxes. I'm hoping that their original story has gotten changed over the years and they originally claimed to have found 1 chest that they were able to split evenly.. They each got "some treasure" and the story got changed along the way... If they were going to make the whole story up I would hope they would know that finding 3 chests would be unrealistic..

Do you recall the OI episode when the OI team visited Captain Anderson's descendant? He made a big show of showing a keyring with 4 keys on it, one of which opened Captain Anderson's sea chest.
So...3 leftover keys.
A connection?

 

[freeman]

The cross was identified as being a common retail piece of jewellery from the 1970s.

 

[n2mini]

The cross was identified as being a common retail piece of jewellery from the 1970s.

Not doubting your info, but I don't recall hearing that. Do you know where we can find that story? I remember the episode the family was on and remember a lot of vague info being talked about and wondering way not just get it tested..

 

[freeman]

Not doubting your info, but I don't recall hearing that. Do you know where we can find that story? I remember the episode the family was on and remember a lot of vague info being talked about and wondering way not just get it tested..

?? They don't go and correct themselves on the show next episode. There is a whole internet of follower fact checkers that look into the claims made on the show. Do your own research instead of taking what is said on the show as being factual. You'll find 99% of what you get handed is just made up.

 

[n2mini]

I know the show doesn't want to show anything that goes against their narrative. Granted it would go a long ways with some of the viewers if they would be honest about some stuff and make the show look more like a believable treasure hunt and not just to make their money back from their initial investment on the island before the show came along. That being said, we all know how people are on the internet , you can't believe them all the time either, so unless someone has the same cross they can show a pic of, how does any of them know the age of it. Surely they aren't basing their "findings/thoughts" just on that attached ring at the top that even if it is 300 years old someone could of had that added on to actually be able to wear it or hang it as a display...

 

[Armchair detective]

Dang it - Crow is is modern manufacture.

What gives it away in the picture below is the lower leg of the cross.

Note the regular pattern - over, under, over, under, etc, and the regularity of the spacings.

But what really gives it away is the gold soldering of the attachment points. You have to have pinpoint control of the heat to accomplish this, like a soldering iron (with electricity showing up around 1920).

I was going to have fun with this - set up a free software jewelry design program to substitute different types of jewels in and out and maybe (a long shot) determine who owned it in the first place.

And now it's a pile of crap, AND ITS ALL YOUR FAULT CROW!!!

(Sniffle)

 

[Armchair detective]

The picture is much clearer on a TV screen (the last episode of season 3).

 

[TruthbeTold]

Yet more proof of the long running oak island scam.

 

[Armchair detective]

Been some time.
Found another picture of the cross.
Page 2, SEASON 9, #163, out the link.

This looks like the real deal, which means the one on the show was a prop.

 

[SSR]

If you walk in to a museum with a relic that you provide them a cool story for they will not accept your story as fact, and that is not because they are calling you a fraudster. Out of context, an object is just an object. Anything removed from the ground may a well have belonged to Adam and Eve. In the case of the OI story it is a lot worse, because we know we are dealing with at least one scoundrel (Vaughn) who pushed an origin account that we know does not compute on many levels after John Smith died. It is often hard to suspend disbelief when one wants to accept something, but disbelief should be the starting point when looking to build reliably.