maybe soon you can only use Marsh Mellows for Bullets in California ?

[arnofarrell]

No lead shot has been an issue for years among conservationist. It can be bad news.

Shot guns come plugged for 3 rounds take the plug out and it holds 5. Same with a pump or semi auto. Typical sporting shot gun comes plugged for 3 shells. We are not allowed to have the plugs out.

Steel shot on federal birds or migratory birds only. I doubt a raptor is going to die eating a quail or dove or rabbit that had been grazed with buck shot or a fish with a bullet weight off a texas rig. But you get millions of duck hunters firing 3 rounds at every duck that goes by and you get the picture. I see poisons such as de- con kill raptors who eat mice that have ingested it and gone to water to satisfy the thirst then the raptor is at the water source doing the same thing then dead. Sad but it is way better than it used to be when they allowed DDT in the food chain.

On eating wild game.

I get so tired of eating everything I kill.

You have to work hard and filll your freezers with Venison.Dove,Quails,Pheasant,rabbit. Fresh fish like crappie and then the salt water trips with friends for the grouper. Now you have to unthaw each meal and each item has its own recipes. It is not like chicken you know where you can just cook the heck out of it. Sigggh. Lot of work and you end up becoming a chef of sorts blending in herbs and fresh vegetables and you spend so much on licenses.- As I get older I am starting to buy a half or quarter of an Angus. This food chain thing is bigger than we think

Where I am at you only need a plug in for waterfowl or dove and steel shot for waterfowl, dove and hunting on public land. Pheasant hunting we load as much ammo into our shotguns as possible, my friend modified his to hold 8 shells.

Hunting is hard and alot of work, thats why I also raise birds and buy half a bison each spring.

 

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[squiggy]

I do not want to be a fly in the ointment, but it appears that the ddt scare may have just been a scare to control people. I could post a lot of links but I will just put up this one for now? A small excerpt follows.
Facts versus fears - DDT

"In 1962 Rachel Carson’s lyrical yet scientifically flawed book Silent Spring was released. The book argued eloquently but erroneously that pesticides, and especially DDT, were poisoning both wildlife and the environment and also endangering human health. The emotional public reaction to Silent Spring launched the modern environmental movement.[SUP]4[/SUP] DDT became the prime target of the growing anti-chemical and anti-pesticide movements during the 1960s. Reasoned scientific discussion and sound data on the favorable human health effects of DDT were brushed aside by environmental alarmists who discounted DDT’s enormous benefits to world health with two allegations: (1) DDT was a carcinogen, and (2) it endangered the environment, particularly for certain birds."

Don't think so..articles just like statistics can support anything. Just depends on the author...
Pesticides are a HUGE PROBLEM especially for children! !!!!

 

[Dave44]

Well, as you say Squiggy, your statistics may not support real data either. Especially for the children. Looks like many more children die of mosquito borne illnesses each year because ddt was not used.

By the way, I remember ddt trucks spraying the streets, I did not die in my infancy either, I think.

 

[squiggy]

Well, as you say Squiggy, your statistics may not support real data either. Especially for the children. Looks like many more children die of mosquito borne illnesses each year because ddt was not used.

By the way, I remember ddt trucks spraying the streets, I did not die in my infancy either, I think.

I think we will disagree on this subject. .

 

[Dave44]

Looks like it Squiggy. No harm in that.

 

[squiggy]

Looks like it Squiggy. No harm in that.

I agree. .

 

[arnofarrell]

squiggy- I have an honest question that pertains to something you probably know. Every spring I find dozens of baby birds on the ground, I try and put them back in there nest to try and give them a better chance of living. I would say about 25 percent fall back out and I want to save them but I have never been able to keep them for long in captivity. I don't know what to feed them. Do you have a special way of helping them. The reason is that if I do not save them then my cats or dogs will eat them.

Speaking of cats every once and a while my cats will catch something and i will find it and try and once again save it. In particular rabbits and snakes. Any suggestion?

Also please don't just tell me to leave them alone because I will try regardless I just need some tips.

Thanks in advance.

 

[squiggy]

squiggy- I have an honest question that pertains to something you probably know. Every spring I find dozens of baby birds on the ground, I try and put them back in there nest to try and give them a better chance of living. I would say about 25 percent fall back out and I want to save them but I have never been able to keep them for long in captivity. I don't know what to feed them. Do you have a special way of helping them. The reason is that if I do not save them then my cats or dogs will eat them.

Speaking of cats every once and a while my cats will catch something and i will find it and try and once again save it. In particular rabbits and snakes. Any suggestion?

Also please don't just tell me to leave them alone because I will try regardless I just need some tips.

Thanks in advance.

I understand. .Well, in regards to the birds..I would guess the ones that fall out are fledglings. ..they have short tail feathers but not enough to fly. Problem here is that they all have a different kind of diet and different method of accepting food
You would not only need the correct nutrition for them but the correct method of giving it.
Birds and mammals that have been bitten by a cat will die within 24 to 48 hours from the cat bite alone ie venom,if not given proper antibiotics. ..
Bunnies rarely live..they along with Woodrat babies are very fragile..
I do have a suggestion. .you seem like a caring person..if you look up Wildlife Rescue in your area I bet there is a place you can take them for the care they will need.
If you tell me where you are located pm or otherwise I will check for you..
If you really like taking care of these guys and have some time I bet they would give you training to do home care. .
I would never tell you to let them die..sadly unless the training and resources are there that is what will happen...
FYI if you transport to a wildlife rehab always keep warm....closed box with air holes, soft cloth and tissue inside and heat under..(low) box on one side..
Let me know re locating wildlife center in your area....
Thanks for caring! !

 

[squiggy]

squiggy- I have an honest question that pertains to something you probably know. Every spring I find dozens of baby birds on the ground, I try and put them back in there nest to try and give them a better chance of living. I would say about 25 percent fall back out and I want to save them but I have never been able to keep them for long in captivity. I don't know what to feed them. Do you have a special way of helping them. The reason is that if I do not save them then my cats or dogs will eat them.

Speaking of cats every once and a while my cats will catch something and i will find it and try and once again save it. In particular rabbits and snakes. Any suggestion?

Also please don't just tell me to leave them alone because I will try regardless I just need some tips.

Thanks in advance.

Oh forgot to say...Any wildlife center should willing to return the wildlife to you for release when they are stable and ready as long as the situation is safe for them....

 

[arnofarrell]

Right on, thanks for your response and advice. I live near Storm Lake Iowa in the north west part of the state.

 

[squiggy]

Right on, thanks for your response and advice. I live near Storm Lake Iowa in the north west part of the state.

I will check to see what is in your area..might not have the info until next week..

 

[arnofarrell]

That is fine, thanks for your help.

 

[squiggy]

That is fine, thanks for your help.

You are very welcome. .I will get back to you on Monday...

 

[Red James Cash]

Arn for insect eating birds I use a syringe and used canned catfood(ironic) mixed with water until it comes out of the syringe easily(mash it up good,no big lumps).for other birds the same thing except grain based.I had a starling for quite a while.He,She would even fly around outside and come right back to me when i whistled.I always whistled right before feeding it.Quite a character.It use to like picking nicnacs up off my tall book case and drop them over the side,watch them fall then move on to the next one.

 

[squiggy]

Arn for insect eating birds I use a syringe and used canned catfood(ironic) mixed with water until it comes out of the syringe easily(mash it up good,no big lumps).for other birds the same thing except grain based.I had a starling for quite a while.He,She would even fly around outside and come right back to me when i whistled.I always whistled right before feeding it.Quite a character.It use to like picking nicnacs up off my tall book case and drop them over the side,watch them fall then move on to the next one.

Better if he takes to a wildlife facility. ..when the birds are babies they have to be fed every 30 min and kept warm...

 

[kuger]

I understand. .Well, in regards to the birds..I would guess the ones that fall out are fledglings. ..they have short tail feathers but not enough to fly. Problem here is that they all have a different kind of diet and different method of accepting food
You would not only need the correct nutrition for them but the correct method of giving it.
Birds and mammals that have been bitten by a cat will die within 24 to 48 hours from the cat bite alone ie venom,if not given proper antibiotics. ..
Bunnies rarely live..they along with Woodrat babies are very fragile..
I do have a suggestion. .you seem like a caring person..if you look up Wildlife Rescue in your area I bet there is a place you can take them for the care they will need.
If you tell me where you are located pm or otherwise I will check for you..
If you really like taking care of these guys and have some time I bet they would give you training to do home care. .
I would never tell you to let them die..sadly unless the training and resources are there that is what will happen...
FYI if you transport to a wildlife rehab always keep warm....closed box with air holes, soft cloth and tissue inside and heat under..(low) box on one side..
Let me know re locating wildlife center in your area....
Thanks for caring! !

Thats exactly right about felines and infection.......I have received three staph infections from MtLion scratches...nasty!!!!Funny story on one of em....but for another time!Great advice Squig,you obviously are good at what you do

 

[Red James Cash]

Thats exactly right about felines and infection.......I have received three staph infections from MtLion scratches...nasty

Lucky theres no Komodo Dragons around you.

 

[kuger]

Lucky theres no Komodo Dragons around you.

...yea,no kidding...you name it,in North America it and I have likely traded blood....or just me giving up the blood!!Anybody that works with sedated or captured animals long enough is bound to get scratched or bit.....just some more than others!....The most painful of any was a Horse though........

 

[squiggy]

Thats exactly right about felines and infection.......I have received three staph infections from MtLion scratches...nasty!!!!Funny story on one of em....but for another time!Great advice Squig,you obviously are good at what you do

Well, thanks! Be careful!

 

[Red James Cash]

...yea,no kidding...you name it,in North America it and I have likely traded blood....or just me giving up the blood!!Anybody that works with sedated or captured animals long enough is bound to get scratched or bit.....just some more than others!....The most painful of any was a Horse though........

I never really had a problem with animals that Ive helped.It was like they sensed it.Interesting.Even the full grown redtail i picked up off the highway.My worst one though was from a horse too lol.A very big stud show horse stepped on my foot.