LUE MAP THEORY, MAYBE SOME CONTEXT

[mdog]

Enticement.

The cyphers are mysterious and impossible to solve. They keep the curious on the path they've been encouraged to follow. They provide insurance in case the owners decide to make their own recovery. If there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, the cyphers won't lead you to the physical prize.

mdog makes an interesting case that the LUE map might well be used to point out numerous caches, each with its own brand of cypher clues. Why use Masonic woo woo for the LUE map, and not Egyptian woo woo? Miller is reported to have been a Mason, so he must have been familiar with that woo, and simply released a map with plenty of Masonic symbology. The real question is, why would such a map be released to the public at all? Same question applies to all the satellite caches Miller's map might point to.

There are two points on the original map that don't show up on the Ram edition, the point at the top of the triangle and the point in the center of the circle, both in the bottom right quadrant. You need both of these points to make the treasure mapping. I wonder if he was having trouble finding the locations of these two points. Another important part of the mapping, also in the bottom right quadrant, is the horizontal line that divides the two big triangles on the right. Von Mueller actually gives clues to the locations of the starting points needed to make this line, on a map of the United States. In his writings he mentions Fort Knox, Treasure Mountain and, if he gave this clue, Lloro Urraca Enterrari could be the Pioneer Urraca Cemetery, at the base of Mount Blanca. With this information, you can draw the horizontal line across the United States. The other two would be harder to figure out. Maybe the Kensington Runestone location, but the starting point in Wyoming would be harder to figure out, if you didn't know about the Apple Lake Triangle.

 

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[cuzimloony]

Yes yes. Cyphers were invented to entice people.
Please go on........

 

[cuzimloony]

Enticement.

The cyphers are mysterious and impossible to solve. They keep the curious on the path they've been encouraged to follow. They provide insurance in case the owners decide to make their own recovery. If there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, the cyphers won't lead you to the physical prize.

mdog makes an interesting case that the LUE map might well be used to point out numerous caches, each with its own brand of cypher clues. Why use Masonic woo woo for the LUE map, and not Egyptian woo woo? Miller is reported to have been a Mason, so he must have been familiar with that woo, and simply released a map with plenty of Masonic symbology. The real question is, why would such a map be released to the public at all? Same question applies to all the satellite caches Miller's map might point to.

He could have used Masonic, Biblical, Egyptian, Sumarian, etc "woowoo." The symbols would have been different, but the meanings the same. He was clearly a Mason and there is enough in his words for a studius Mason to figure out what he's getting at.
But Im afraid, if I explain it further would be considered "off topic," (I no longer wonder why this stuff is kept secret........) so in this case Ill leave it to you guys to keep in on topic with the stories of Ahnunaki (I was wrong earlier....aliens WERE brought up here), or Aztec, or Arizona Romans, or native American Hebrews or....whatever else is on topic for this thread.
I dont think Im being heard. There's only so much wall talking one can do before moving on. Im clearly off topic anyway and one of the woo crowd so......

Im just going to say this:
You got it. Good job.
This is absolutely about looking for 7 cities, or caves literally made of literal gold.
Good luck in your search.

 

[sdcfia]

. . . .Even though Ive already explained the "woowoo", it clearly falls on deaf ears. It's OFF TOPIC! . . . . . . . . Yes yes. Cyphers were invented to entice people. Please go on . . . .

Sure, that topic is compelling and well worth pursuing, but this is a Treasurenet forum, not a philosophy forum, and the readers are primarily here to discuss, well, treasures - the physical loot that folks before us have allegedly hidden or lost somewhere.

Cyphers and other "clues" weren't invented to entice people, they were used to entice people. They're a useful tool, just like a map or a metal detector. Why . . . you're one of those people, aren't you?

 

[cuzimloony]

Sure, that topic is compelling and well worth pursuing, but this is a Treasurenet forum, not a philosophy forum, and the readers are primarily here to discuss, well, treasures - the physical loot that folks before us have allegedly hidden or lost somewhere.

Cyphers and other "clues" weren't invented to entice people, they were used to entice people. They're a useful tool, just like a map or a metal detector. Why . . . you're one of those people, aren't you?

And that is a Masonic tracing board.....which cannot be separated from philosophy.
Understanding the philospohical origin of those symbols would probably help deci........ wait, what am I saying??
Nonsense. It was clearly ancient aliens.

 

[cuzimloony]

Sure, that topic is compelling and well worth pursuing, but this is a Treasurenet forum, not a philosophy forum, and the readers are primarily here to discuss, well, treasures - the physical loot that folks before us have allegedly hidden or lost somewhere.

Cyphers and other "clues" weren't invented to entice people, they were used to entice people. They're a useful tool, just like a map or a metal detector. Why . . . you're one of those people, aren't you?

Please explain "those people."

 

[sdcfia]

He could have used Masonic, Biblical, Egyptian, Sumarian, etc "woowoo." The symbols would have been different, but the meanings the same. Now you're starting to get the picture. He was clearly a Mason and there is enough in his words for a studius Mason to figure out what he's getting at.
But Im afraid, if I explain it would be considered "off topic" Many readers might be interested, me included. But here, only if it tries to explain the LUE map and what it's supposed to be leading to - alleged hidden valuables, not proselytizing. Remember what website you're on. Miller's life and associates may be more telling than his woo beliefs . . . . so in this case Ill leave it to you guys to keep in on topic with the stories of Ahnunaki (I was wrong earlier....aliens WERE brought up here), or Aztec, or Arizona Romans, or native American Hebrews or....whatever else is on topic for this thread. It is always advantageous to try to look at the biggest picture you can, even if you don't understand its context.
I dont think Im being heard. There's only so much wall talking one can do before moving on. Im clearly off topic anyway and one of the woo crowd so......

Im just going to say this:
You got it. Good job. As far as I know, based on mdog's work, the LUE map is possibly some sort of index to a series of alleged sites containing hidden valuables. The map seems to employ Masonic symbology, and was released by a guy who wrote about lost treasures.
This is absolutely about looking for 7 cities, or caves literally made of literal gold.
Good luck in your search. Didn't you claim to have an engineering degree? If you do, then you were presumably educated around critical thinking core fundamentals. Think like a detective.

 

[sdcfia]

Please explain "those people."

People who are interested in stories about lost mines, hidden treasures and the people associated with them. Why else would you or I be reading about this stuff?

 

[cuzimloony]

"Remember what website you're on."
You remember we're talking ablut a Masonic tracing board, or at least symbols taken from them, and any discussion around Masonic tracing boards is relevant and I'LL, meaning ME, will be the judge of what I consider on topic for Masonic symbols and tracing boards As a Mason AND a treasure hunter, I can do that.
This website even has a "banter" section to talk about anything at all.
So, the fact that this is a treasure site is irrelevant. We can talk about anything, especially since OP is asking me for my thoughts, more than a few times. Its becoming very clear though, why this stuff needs to be secret.

 

[point hunter]

"The symbols would have been different, but the meanings the same. Now you're starting to get the picture"

Oh, Ive already got the picture.
Cryptic and shibboleth.
Lol
Good luck!

The symbols, I don't know about ya'll but I find them well nonsense, gibberish, jumbled. The trails to the carvings not so much. But, there has to be more. A measured triangle, squared circle, a sacred distance (number) and/or direction, etc. I'm hoping we can talk more about it. I know of carved tree sites assocaiated with empty holes. How the carvings got them there...I wish i knew. The same with the LUE and the glyph panels. Total gibberish to us, and of course maybe not to others. But, if they are part of a measured system maybe it could be backtracked, maybe.
IDK if I brought up the sky gods associated with otherworldly travel, but all the old gods came from the sky first right? The only reason they even have relevance, IMHO, is many stories are associated with the 4 corners and gold bearing areas. The spiral petroglyph I posted earlier is also associated with a vortex and site of power. I'll just stop there. One last thing, I also think we can find the path to our inner temple. I've looked a long time for mine and what I have found is the search has given me much . I want to talk about the LUE and the panels associated with it. Everyone has their own theories and paths. We follow different trails but eventually arrive at the same place. If the 7 caves are meant to be found, they will be. If not, the ones that come after us, may or may not continue that work. Who knows if there are caves, this is map theory.
There is no doubt, IMO, that the LUE is masonic in nature and was created to be associated with the glyph panels and if Mr. Dog's mapping is sound, the rest of the US as well. The very exact nature of the map and the lines show a well trained group. Make no mistake, this was a large group effort. How much remains intact now, is yet to be determined. Many sites will be found to be on some sort of protected area/s. Which makes me think the group is alive and well. Just saying. However, some can/could be studied and possibly give us a clue or two which will get us further down the trail. Sooner or later, it's going to hopefully make more sense. Now whether or not a site has an empty hole, IDK. But, I am seeing this in Arizona with the open vaults. These sites are associated with old trails, IDK if they are LUE related yet. It would take a measured/directional system from the glyph panels to be sure. Or it could be done from some other point on a measurd line but it would have say a number/measurement they liked. I am fairly sure the group left clues at the open vault sites though. Either a trail in to the site and/or a trail out to where it was moved. So, I hope all ideas are presented and discussed. I have been forced over the years to learn things to even understand what some are talking about here. Many I thought had hit his or her head, but they were right.

 

[mdog]

Here's Ryano's overlay of the LUE map.

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The white lines on the bottom half show the lines from the top half.

I've theorized that the shallow curved lines represented one of the two columns at the entrance to the Temple of Solomon. In Masonry, one of the columns is named Boaz, the one on the north side of the entrance, the other column is named Jachim, on the south side of the entrance. Both columns have a globe on top of them. Jachim has a celestial globe, represented by the shallow curve on the LUE map, and Boaz has a terrestrial globe. In Masonry, these columns also represent Saint John the Baptist, the north column, and Saint John the Evangelist, the south column. When Ryano overlayed the top of the map to the bottom, it put the two curves of the celestial map, opposite each other, one on the north, left, and one on the south, right. It might be that these two curves, on the overlay, represent the two saints John, whose religious celebrations are June 24th and December 27th.

The more I study the LUE map, the more it seems like a Masonic training aid that has had some features of it used to create the LUE mapping to treasure legend sites, or other important points.

Sorry, I didn't finish up my explanation of why I feel the two shallow curves on Ryano's overlay, represent the columns at the entrance of the Temple of Solomon.

Here's the LUE map, oriented the way it is shown in the RAM edition of Treasure Hunter's Manual #7.

The curved lines are similar to the curved lines on a celestial map, as shown below.

The lowest part of the shallow curve, on the left, is at the winter solstice, December 22nd. The celebration of Saint John the Evangelist is December 27th. The highest part of the shallow curve, on the right, is at June 22nd, the summer solstice. June 24th is the celebration of Saint John the Baptist. So, the shallow curve on the celestial map can also be used to represent Saint John the Evangelist, on the left, and Saint John the Baptist, on the right. The same thing could be done on the LUE map. The shallow curve on the left can be used to represent Saint John the Evangelist and the shallow curve on the right can be Saint John the Baptist.

When the LUE map is oriented properly, with east at the top, and the top half is folded down over the bottom half, you have Ryano's overlay.

In the overlay, you can see the two shallow curves are opposite each other, like the two columns, Jachim and Boaz, at the entrance of the Temple of Solomon. Masonic ritual dedicates the two columns, Jachim and Boaz, to Saint John the Evangelist and Saint John the Baptist. So, if the two shallow curves, on the LUE map, were meant to represent the two St. Johns, when you put them side by side, like they show on the overlay, you could also have a representation of Jachim and Boaz, the two columns at the entrance to the Temple of Solomon.