LUE MAP THEORY, MAYBE SOME CONTEXT

[Calvin Kline]

Just a reminder to everybody, everything I've posted on this thread is my opinion, only the person who designed the LUE clue knows what it means, if anything.

Wow mdog, nice work. Great thread. I think your ancient DNA is coming awake and traveling up Herme's staff to the top where the heart is laying. It's taking off like a duck taking to flight, up, up, up and away. Thank you for the info. mdog.

 

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[Calvin Kline]

I'd like to know if anybody knows where, from Conejos Peak, this carving was found.

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Also, for those of you who study the LUE and Treasure Mountain legends, this section of the Conejos River looks similar to the curving line on the carving.

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Nice work mdog, I luv it.

 

[mdog]

Nice work mdog, I luv it.

Thank you.

 

[mdog]

Short answer, not specifically off the top of my head.
There might be something to this though.
Long-windid explanation coming:

It is my personal opinion that the core of the Masonic tradition pre-dates the Bible. To illustrate that lets look at the physical home of the Templars and the center of Masonic symbolism, King Solomons Temple. If you look at the explanation of King Solomons Temple in the book of Kings in the Bible, you will see Masonic symbolism. I mantain you see Masonic symbolism there and NOT the other way around, based in part on the advanced state of the symbolism. The symbolism in Kings wasn't new when they wrote down that book. It wasnt new when they built the Temple. In that book, you see a FULLY FLESHED OUT AND ADVANCED SYMBOLISM, that had to have been perfected before construction the Temple, the Masons didnt get their symbolism FROM the Temple. It was the other way around....... The Masons (whatever they were called then) fleshed out their symbolism and then built the Temple using their symbolism.

If my theory is right, then the characters in the versions of the rituals that pre-date the Bible couldn't have been Biblical characters. Biblical characters began to be used in the rituals because it is what the people of the day understood. Before the Bible what did they use

Constellations and stars.
Some constellations STILL make appearances in the ritual (and the Bible), but they've been humanized and most wouldn't recognize them as such. However, it ALL goes back to the constellations. All of it. As above, so below. Old testament and new.

Job 38:32 “Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? What is Mazzaroth The zodiak.

Ultimately, it all goes back to the stars.......

There is an author you might like, named Sanford Holst. He is a Mason and a Knight Templar. He wrote an excellent book about the ancient Phoenicians and he addresses the ancient builders.

Is there a place in any of the Masonic Lodges where the Ark of the Covenant is represented, maybe it's own special place in the Lodge?

 

[cuzimloony]

Is there a place in any of the Masonic Lodges where the Ark of the Covenant is represented, maybe it's own special place in the Lodge?

Not that I am aware of :/

 

[mdog]

Today, my wife gave me two of Randy Bradford's books as gifts and right away, I skimmed through books 2 and 3 looking for mention of the LUE.

On page 97 of volume 3, von Mueller writes, " I want to point out that it was I and nobody else who coined the term "LUE" from the first letters of the only three words on the original map. Without my knowing it at the time, this treasure was known as the LUE or LU before the map was published in The Treasure Hunter's Manual 7th edition, but the phonetic pronunciation came from the first letters of the first word. As early as the 1930's, various people came to the Trinidad, Aguilar and Walsenburg areas looking for the Lue, and any alert researcher can find extensive references to the LUE under another name in several other popular treasure books."

 

[mdog]

Today, my wife gave me two of Randy Bradford's books as gifts and right away, I skimmed through books 2 and 3 looking for mention of the LUE.

On page 97 of volume 3, von Mueller writes, " I want to point out that it was I and nobody else who coined the term "LUE" from the first letters of the only three words on the original map. Without my knowing it at the time, this treasure was known as the LUE or LU before the map was published in The Treasure Hunter's Manual 7th edition, but the phonetic pronunciation came from the first letters of the first word. As early as the 1930's, various people came to the Trinidad, Aguilar and Walsenburg areas looking for the Lue, and any alert researcher can find extensive references to the LUE under another name in several other popular treasure books."

This article was written more than 10 years after Hardrock Hammond borrowed the original map from it's owner, so it shouldn't have been any big deal for von Mueller to reveal the three letters on the LUE map. I wonder if there was money involved with the transfer of information from the map's owner. Maybe von Mueller was even dangling the LUE map like bait and then selling information. He also mentioned that thousands of people were stopping at Segundo looking for information about the LUE.

 

[point hunter]

This article was written more than 10 years after Hardrock Hammond borrowed the original map from it's owner, so it shouldn't have been any big deal for von Mueller to reveal the three letters on the LUE map. I wonder if there was money involved with the transfer of information from the map's owner. Maybe von Mueller was even dangling the LUE map like bait and then selling information. He also mentioned that thousands of people were stopping at Segundo looking for information about the LUE.

Talk about a cash cow. Some guy shows up, all puffed up about the book not existing and there it is. I wonder how much he would wind up spending before he left trying to make it right. LMAO