Local Boy Hits Victorian Pay Dirt at Colonial House!

Erik in NJ

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Local Boy Digs Amazing Victorian Bridle Rosette at Colonial House!

Got off work a little early today and decided to spend a couple house back at the colonial house that had yielded so much from the last couple hunt.

It started out a bit slow this time, but again didn't let me down with a couple of very nice relics.

The first struck me as very odd when I dug it as I'm not used to digging anything metal with glass attached to it. I thought it was some sort of fancy plug or stopper and dropped it in my finds pouch.

Upon cleaning it up at home, I see that the brass or copper had a nice patina indicating some age probably back to the late 1800s to possible early 1900s. I could see black behind the glass which I figured was simply damage from water. As I sat back and looked at the item I almost fell over when I realized that the "damage" was actually a silvered Gothic-style letter "V" on a black background. But why on Earth would a stopper be monogrammed on the side that you would not see? The metal part with the "handle" appeared to have been gilded at some point, but is mostly worn off. I showed a photo to our resident relic guru--kuger, who immediately realized that this "plug/stopper" was indeed a glass domed bridle rosette! WOW! I have dug some beautiful rosettes before, but this is my first glass domed rosette and having the initial "V" gives me an opportunity to discover who may have owned it and when! The rosette is approx. 1-1/2" in diameter. Thanks again kuger for your sage identification!

The second item was found in a deep plug with about 10 square nails surrounding it. It also had a wood screw through the center of it that I have removed for display. It's a round cover--again about 1-1/2" in diameter depicting what appear to be dragon scales. There are little designs on each scale. A beautiful piece, but I have no idea what it was used for, it's age, or why it was surrounded by so many square nails.

The third item is an enigma. I had found several of these items in England this summer, then dug another back home at an 1800s house. No one could ID it. Then I dug this one on this property. This one is in the best shape of the lot and is the only one with a channel that looks like a belt or rope rode in it. All of them have the three countersunk holes and the central stud. Any help on this item would be appreciated.

It was a short hunt, but I'd have to say that the beautiful rosette was definitely the highlight of the hunt!

Thanks for looking.
 

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The third item I believe is from a seeder,I could be wrong,I have found several myself,in farm fields. God Bless Chris
 

Erik , your third item is l think the end of an early roller window blind (the centre part being made from wood) Hutch.
 

Watching intently for further info....especially a date on the Rossette :icon_thumright:
 

Wow, congrats on that nice rosette, Erik. :icon_thumright: Love the horse related relics.

A bridle rosette was high on my relic wish list this year and I found one in May, glass topped like yours, with a yellow rose pic beneath. Very special find!

HH
 

Cool finds, I really dig the Rosette .
 

Hi Hutch! I hope someone can give us a definitive answer. I found another one today on this property...without the V-groove. They are annoying to dig now because they give off such a great signal and are about the size of a large copper coin!

Erik , your third item is l think the end of an early roller window blind (the centre part being made from wood) Hutch.
 

Watching intently for further info....especially a date on the Rossette :icon_thumright:

Hey brother! :) Looks like the date is 1880 - 1920 or so according to our local rosette expert Susan in Columbia
 

Wow, congrats on that nice rosette, Erik. :icon_thumright: Love the horse related relics.

A bridle rosette was high on my relic wish list this year and I found one in May, glass topped like yours, with a yellow rose pic beneath. Very special find!

HH

Thanks Anne! How about posting a pic of yours here? Nice find!
 

Erik, love the rosette, the second could be an ornamental washer for a nail, and the third item I have seen them before , but just not sure.....Kinda reminds me of the piece that is inside of a radio where you tuned the station there was a small wheel that the string ran around to move the station pointer. Just thinking out loud....................................HH
 

Erik, love the rosette, the second could be an ornamental washer for a nail, and the third item I have seen them before , but just not sure.....Kinda reminds me of the piece that is inside of a radio where you tuned the station there was a small wheel that the string ran around to move the station pointer. Just thinking out loud....................................HH

Hi Greg, yes I know the part you are talking about! Kind of resembles that, but I'm fairly certain it's not. I just found another tonight and most don't have that V-groove. Got about eight of them now from two continents and I'm sure getting tired of digging them! Leading theory is ends for some sort of manual blinds before the "modern" spring loaded ones--but no one seems to know what they are! Thanks for your kind words on that rosette!
 

Hi Erik, Nice finds. I've dug a couple of the glass rosettes I have one with a K and another with an S. Those things we're calling #3 I've dug tons of them, mostly from civil war era sites but I've never figured out what they are either.
 

Hi Erik, Nice finds. I've dug a couple of the glass rosettes I have one with a K and another with an S. Those things we're calling #3 I've dug tons of them, mostly from civil war era sites but I've never figured out what they are either.

Hi Dave! Thanks for the kind words. Please post your glass rosettes when you have a chance....they are beautiful. Now regarding #3, if they were Civil War camp sites or similar that would rule out blinds. I still have an odd feeling they might somehow be related to horse tack or similar.
 

The last item is part of an old roller blind (window). I chuck loads of these, but as you can guess I need the space for better items.

The first item is a nice keeper!
 

That glass-domed rosette is a very interesting piece Erik. Never seen one like it. Nice find!
 

More nice finds Erik, Congrats! Liking the "D" rosette :icon_thumleft: !

TommNJ
 

Nice handful of keepers, especially the rosette Erik. You can add me to the list of those who have found 2 of those #3 roller thingies. I could never figure it out but this thread is the closest thing I've come across to a real discussion of it.
Nick
 

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