Knights of the Golden Circle, Order of American Knights, Freemasons and Kabbalah

[L.C. BAKER]

The Knights of the Golden Circle had a vault strategically located, placed, and very safely hidden away, who do you think was in charge of guarding it in 1866-? Do you think they had an internal guard based on the same rituals as the Templars /Freemasons or a similer allegory?

 

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[Rebel - KGC]

No...

 

[L.C. BAKER]

It is told that Enoch constructed nine hidden vaults underground at Mt. Moriah. The vaults were perpendicular; one atop the other, in which he deposited the most important ancient knowledge. In the deepest vault a triangular plate of gold, measuring a cubit long on each side, bearing the secret and ineffable name of God. When the vaults of knowledge were complete he covered them over with soil and erected two pillars on the site. One on which he inscribes the history, Arts and Sciences, and “doctrines of Speculative Masonry, and one on which he places hieroglyphic information pointing to the precious treasure in the vaults nearby. As you know the Masonic Lodge represents a “portal through which the initiate passes on his admission to Freemasonry” toward the esoteric knowledge that is represented by and beyond the pillars, available only to those who “traverse the threshold and participate in the mysteries of the Order.”

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Have YOU read the BOOK OF ENOCH...? I have it; MOSTLY in the RAM (Royal Arch Masonry, 4-7th Degrees). In Virginia the Cryptic Council is included within RAM, as is in West Virginia. there are 9 Arches,,,

 

[Rebel - KGC]

ALSO, review SR/SJ 13th Degree of ENOCH (or Knights of the 9th Arch)...

 

[Rebel - KGC]

CUBE WITHIN THE TRIANGLE...

 

[L.C. BAKER]

Have YOU read the BOOK OF ENOCH...? I have it; MOSTLY in the RAM (Royal Arch Masonry, 4-7th Degrees). In Virginia, the Cryptic Council is included within RAM, as is in West Virginia. there are 9 Arches,,,

I have read parts. Would you care to expand on the 9 Arches as much as you can go in depth?

 

[L.C. BAKER]

ALSO, review SR/SJ 13th Degree of ENOCH (or Knights of the 9th Arch)...

Thanks, will do. I am at a crossroads in my life and Freemasonry. I want to go further to learn in a way that did not concern me during my time spent learning the first three degrees. It is that time of year.

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L.C.

 

[L.C. BAKER]

CUBE WITHIN THE TRIANGLE...

Maybe even more.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

In MY "independent study" of the "THE CRAFT" (40 years ACTIVE), PHOENIXMASONRY was my MAIN resource; Phoenix Masonry, Inc. has info that you will NEVER find in your "Blue Lodge". ALSO, look into ESOTERIC Masonry/FreeMasonry. HH! Good Luck! Have FUN! I was a Stone Mason's Helper, and did "pointing up"; used the tools of the TRADE; we ALSO had LODGES...

 

[franklin]

In MY "independent study" of the "THE CRAFT" (40 years ACTIVE), PHOENIXMASONRY was my MAIN resource; Phoenix Masonry, Inc. has info that you will NEVER find in your "Blue Lodge". ALSO, look into ESOTERIC Masonry/FreeMasonry. HH! Good Luck! Have FUN! I was a Stone Mason's Helper, and did "pointing up"; used the tools of the TRADE; we ALSO had LODGES...

I have no active years in the Craft. I still believe I know a lot I could teach to the 33rd degree masons? Maybe, maybe not?

 

[L.C. BAKER]

I have no active years in the Craft. I still believe I know a lot I could teach to the 33rd degree masons? Maybe, maybe not?

They put their pants on just like you, one leg at a time. Some you could teach some could teach you and some probably wouldn't stand still long enough to listen to you! Although it is a brotherhood like the K,G.C., and O.A.K. were, the agendas were quite different. I believe it was the ritual and Hermeticism that was copied in the 1800s. Pike was a common denominator between them, although it was not of his own doing. I believe he was consulted, selected, and elected to do everything concerning the societies.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

I have read parts. Would you care to expand on the 9 Arches as much as you can go in depth?

No; just "google" 9 Arches of ENOCH...

 

[Rebel - KGC]

I have no active years in the Craft. I still believe I know a lot I could teach to the 33rd degree masons? Maybe, maybe not?

Well, 33rd is HONORARY; and you CAN NOT ask for it; you are INVITED.

 

[Joe-Dirt]

Hmmmmmmm, interesting

 

[Rebel - KGC]

BLUNTLY, the HIGHEST degree in Masonry/Freemasonry in the 3rd Degree... MASTER MASON. The other degrees are just "add-ons".

 

[Rebel - KGC]

W/O the M.M. degree, you CAN NOT go thru the Scottish Rite (nor be 33rd), York Rite, OR today's Shrine (after the MM.) IF one quits the Blue Lodge (M.M.), one is DEMITTED from the "higher" degrees.

 

[L.C. BAKER]

Well, 33rd is HONORARY; and you CAN NOT ask for it; you are INVITED.

Who invited you in 1861? Was it Pike and the council? History of the Supreme Council 33 Degree 1861-1891 By James D, Carter 33rd Degree

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Heh...

 

[White Heart]

When I was reading about the history of the Masonic Temple in Washington D.C., I remember reading that there were five 33 degree initiation locations scattered around the country which were closed when the D.C. Temple was built.
Does anyone know where these were?
I have also been wondering that since AP was involved in ritual/initiation of multiple organizations, did one site serve more than one group?
As I have mentioned previously on another thread, I believe I have found an intiation site that was used from 1870's right up to the time of the D.C. temple. In other words , it was closed at some point. Closed very carefully. Nothing destroyed, everything hidden and subtle clues left. It is very much like outdoor British initiation sites from the 1700's that used hedgerows to enclose the site. Mine is enclosed by 8 ft tall, 1 vara thick walls.
I suspect it is 33 degree because it includes mathmatical principles and ideas that are not mentioned in any up to 32 degree material I have been given and read.