KGC Fact or Fiction....................

[cryptodave]

The fact is that the KGC was formed by pro Southern northerners and i have pictures of there meeting flyers for whoever would like to see them and they existed as early as 1858.

The KGC WAS definitely involved with the Freemasons as Albert Pike, the father of modern Scottish Rite Freemasonery, confederate general, and author of "Morals and Dogma" which outlines the total reconstruction of Freemasonary WAS indeed one of the leaders of the KGC as well as the head of Scottish Rite Freemasonary. They were inextricably linked thanks to this man.

Ah yes, the conspiracy pirates come out. I've only heard this one about 15 to 3000 times. Albert Pike/Morals and Dogma/KGC/KKK.

Oh, and the book was about the SCOTTISH RITE philosophical symbolism of degrees, not Freemasonry. Although you must be a mason to get into the Scottish Rite, they are seperate entities with seperate history and goals.
Freemasonry consists of 3 degrees, then you are a Master Mason and that is it. The Scottish Rite is a continuation of the 3 degrees from 4~32 (some, however few, 33).

Also, Pike was the Sovereign Grand Commander of the SOUTHERN jurisdiction, hardly the leader of all of the Scottish Rite.

I see no connection to Pike and the KGC in there.

 

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[psedler]

Gee Dorian,
How about you tell us NOW where these large KGC caches are located. That way we can all go together, dig them up and donate the loot to the poor. That goes for the rest of you who claim to know. Otherwise, we're going to think you're all just looking for attention.

 

[tradderran]

Gee Dorian( dig them up and donate the loot to the poor.) That goes for the rest of you who claim to know. Otherwise, we're going to think you're all just looking for attention.

Dig them up and Give them to the Poor.

I don't know what you are drinking. But I wont a gallon

 

[{Sentinel}]

Pike started most of the southern and western Masonic lodges and was high up in the Confederate Inner Circle. It is only logical that two things that he loved. Both Freemasonary and the Confederacy would come together. Of course he dabbled in both and I also know Dave that he was NOT leader of the whole FreeMasons, that was never my claim, just the Southern jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite.

 

[cccalco]

Caveat Lector -CCC

Description of the 30th Degree of Scottish Rite Freemasonry (Knights Kadosh)
http://www.originaldissent.com/foru...-Description-of-the-30th-Degree-of...&p=93034

Re: Description of the 30th Degree of Scottish Rite Freemasonry (Knights Kadosh)

AFTER THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, Washington DC was built in 1790. Next the
conspiracy moved on the states.

"The Knights of the Golden Circle (KGC) was a secret society originally
founded to promote the interests of the Southern United States. It was to
prepare the way for annexation of a golden circle of territories in Mexico,
Central America, and the Caribbean to be included in the United States as
slave states."

John Wilkes Booth was a member of the Knights of the Golden Circle (KGC). In
Washington DC the Copperhead politicians were also KGC, Irish Catholic
agents of the Vatican.

President Lincoln Assassination by the Vatican



10 conspirators:

4 hanged by the federal government
4 imprisoned
1 shot
1 escaped- John Surratt was found at the Vatican

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Surratt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Surratt
http://www.reformation.org/lincoln.html
http://ctwilcox.com

The southern states of the USA were the only Protestant stronghold in all of
the Americas. After the Civil War Washington DC founded the Pan-American
Union that rules all of North and South America, today called the
Organization of the American States.

"The pursuit of regional solidarity and cooperation again came to the
forefront in 1889-90, at the First International Conference of American
States."

Sister society of the Mason-Templars, after the Civil War the KGC became the
Knights of the KKK to divide the Blacks from the Protestant Christians. The
satanic Templar society would often burn crosses to instill fear of anything
Christian.
Last edited by Amish; 06-27-10 at 17:46.

http://knights-of-the-golden-circle.blogspot.com

 

[lastleg]

Gentlemen, pick a card, any card.

 

[cccalco]

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Booth Tells All! -- KGC
Bill Kingsbury
Fri, 5 Mar 1999 23:38:40 -0500
from: http://www.kamellia.com/KGC.htm

The Knights of the Golden Circle

It was on the eve of the Civil War. Washington was rampant with
war hysteria as the nation tottered on the abyss of the approaching
conflict. To add to the increasing tension, the Capitol had been
infiltrated by a wave of Confederate spies. Indeed, the
Confederacy began the war with an espionage system already
organized and highly efficient, with tentacles reaching into secret
areas of the Federal Department. Often the Rebels knew what the
Yankees were going to do almost as soon as the decision was
reached -- and long before Union troops began to move.

One of the most energetic and efficient of these espionage rings
was a well organized secret society, the KNIGHTS OF THE GOLDEN
CIRCLE, (KGC), which had both Northern and Southern Branches,
closely cooperating with each other. During the Civil War the KGC
not only acted as the secret agents and fomenters of civil disorder
in the North, but it's members were smugglers of medical supplies,
recruits, arms, uniforms and ammunition.

After Gen. Robert E. Lee's surrender at Appomattox, the
organization went underground and assumed a completely new mission
-- the raising of funds to start a new Civil War, promoting the
idea of "The South Will Rise Again!" The Knights went about their
new mission with little regard for the legal principles. There
were many stories that the KGC amassed millions of dollars worth of
gold, silver, and currency which is allegedly stashed in numerous
caches around the United States.

In 1984 document were found in a Antebellum home in Savannah
Georgia, pertaining to a gold shipment buried by the KGC just
before the city was invaded by Union troops. This was said to be
gold transported from Texas.

Perhaps you are wondering just how the Knights of the Golden Circle
came into being and what happened to this organization in later
years. The middle of the last century was a spawning ground for
numerous secret societies of every description, with many persons
holding simultaneous memberships in several organizations.
Entering the scene in 1859, with his founding of the Knights of the
Golden Circle, was George W.L. Bickley. His intentional aims for
the secret society were to Americanize and ultimately annex Mexico,
to settle the slavery question in favor of the South, and to
promote his own fame and fortune.

Bickley at various ties had been a physician, author and editor --
and, as head of the KGC, he styled himself 'General', without a
shadow of authority, save that of his own will, he created
colonels, majors, and captains in the most absolute and Napoleonic
manner. Local lodges of the organization were called 'castles,'
and fees were naturally required of the members. These fees were
one dollar for the first degree of membership, five dollars for the
second, and ten for the third. Weekly dues in all degrees were
fixed by the colonels of the regiments in their respective
jurisdictions. In a short while Gen. Bickley began to realize
one of his main objectives -- a substantial income.

Ollinger Crenshaw, writing in the American Historical Review,
stated, "An eloquent orator and filled with the spirit of modern
'chivalry', Bickley engaged for months during 1860, a vigorous
stump speaking campaign in the Southern states, which he hoped
would enlist wide-spread support for his project. It is indeed
remarkable with what facility this plausible man ingratiated
himself with the Southern editors, who frequently accepted Gen.
Bickley at his own estimate. He also drew to his support, as
active organizers, a considerable number of men throughout the
South, who were, however, not politically prominent."

Sometime later Bickley extended his membership drive into the
border states, where he was not always greeted with enthusiasm.
Indeed the Unionist Louisville Journal, assailed Bickley's
"incendiary doctrines and hellish machinations," and later
characterized the KGC as the "heart the brain, the breath, the soul
of the secession party in Kentucky." In a lighter vein the same
paper lampooned "King Bickley, Monarch of the KGC," and humorously
observed, "Many a man puts his foot in a golden circle may get his
neck in a hempen one."

Eventually, the secret society spread across the Ohio River into
Indiana and the other states of the Old Northwest, where it won an
unsavory reputation during the course of the Civil War.

Gradually, Bickley lost control of the KGC, and for a brief period
in 1863, he turned up as a surgeon in Gen. Bragg's army, attached
to the 29th North Carolina Regiment.

For reasons not apparent, Bickley later applied for and received
a pass through Union lines with the understanding that he would
proceed directly to his home in Cincinnati. Instead he journeyed
to New Albany Indiana, to link up with a KGC castle. This
deviation in his promise caused him to be imprisoned as a spy on
August 18, 1863, and he was not released until the fall of 1865.

Deeply discredited everywhere and odious because of his KGC
activities, Bickley died on August 10, 1867. The Cincinnati Daily
Commercial barely mentioned his demise.

What of the widespread secret society which Bickley had founded?
It continued to live on in several forms. Toward the end of the
Civil War, many of its members transferred their allegiance to
another organization, the Order of American Knights, which in turn
evolved into the Sons of Liberty -- both of the latter dying from
acute inertia at the end of the war. However, a hard-core group
of die-hard Confederates preserved what remained of the Knights
of the Golden Circle when the shooting stopped. During the great
conflict, the society raised funds for the Confederate cause by
both legal and illegal means -- considering Yankee banks,
businesses and stagecoaches to be fair game for robbery.

These men rationalized that their cause was only temporarily lost.
As a consequence, they were determined to continue raising funds,
by any and all means. This Inner Circle claimed such stalwarts as
Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest, Jesse James, Gen. Bud
Dalton, Prof. B.E. Bedeczek, Gen. J.O. Shelby and others. Reports
have it that following Lee's surrender, the KGC amassed millions of
dollars in gold, silver, and currency, awaiting the call to again
bear arms -- a call which never came. As a result, these caches
which reportedly remained unfound and untouched. Supposedly, many
of these caches were booby trapped and could still be lethal for
the unwary.

Sometime after the war the secret KGC established headquarters
in an old building on Fatherland Street in Nashville Tennessee.
Reportedly, the old building stood where the "Grand Ole Opry" got
its start. About 1884 the headquarters were moved to Colorado
Springs. Verifying the old Confederates' tales of clandestine
treasure hoards becomes very difficult when one realizes the KGC
officially closed its books and disbanded in 1916. In addition,
through deaths and failing memories of the elderly Knights caused
the locations of many caches to be lost in the maze of history, for
the relied upon memory rather than written records for identifying
their stashes.

Speaking of Nashville, a rich KGC trove was supposedly hidden under
an "ordinary looking mountain" somewhere off the old Nashville
Pike. Allegedly, $600 million was stored there in a vault, in
1870. Later, more gold was said to have been added to this hoard.
We have also heard tales of a KGC treasure having been secreted
about 11 miles from Nashville. These two reports, however, may
pertain to the same cache.

L. Frank Hudson, an expert researcher from St. Petersburg Florida,
is the source of KGC treasure tale originating in Texas. Sometime
in 1863 a shipment of gold coins in wooden kegs left Galveston
aboard a Confederate vessel. The gold came from the western mines
operated by the KGC. At some point, before shipment, it was minted
into coins, struck by dies captured or stolen from the Federal
government. In addition, each coin bore "C.S.A." stamped on its
face.

When the Confederate ship left Galveston, all went well until it
was opposite the mouth of the Mississippi River. At that point a
Union gunboat gave chase, and hung astern the Confederate all the
way into Florida waters. Here the gunboat's prey attempted to
evade capture by entering the Suwannee River. The gunboat hung on
tenaciously, so at the second bend in the river, the rebels began
throwing the coin kegs overboard to thwart their capture. The
Union vessel was still gaining, causing the Rebels to ground their
craft on the left bank of the river and flee into the woods to
avoid capture.

Since that day, there have been rumors of some kegs having been
found. In fact, two lucky finders were able to find enough coins
to establish a fine restaurant in Maderia Beach as the story goes.

During the Civil War the Northern element of the KGC perpetrated
several acts of sabotage, particularly in Midwestern states. One
of these schemes of skullduggery was an elaborate plan to free and
arm thousands of Confederate prisoners being held at Camp Douglas,
near Chicago. A Harpers Weekly reporter of that day described the
prisoners thusly: "A more woebegone appearing set of men it would
be difficult to imagine. It may have been from exposure and low
diet, but they were all sallow-faced, sunken eyed and apparently
famishing. The uniforms of the Confederates prisoners are just no
uniforms at all, being wholly ununiform in color, cut, fashion, and
manufacture. The majority stood gazing about the place, perfectly
willing to be conversed with, and as willing to answer all
questions."

It was the assignment of the Confederate master spy, Captain Thomas
H. Hines, to coordinate this operation with the KGC. The Knights
had secretly gathered a large quantity of rifles, pistols and
ammunition to arm the prisoners. In addition, they had pledged
a considerable force of members for this raid. However, the KGC
backed out at the last moment, wisely considering the plan too
dangerous.

Although much was written about the Knights during the war, very
little has been printed about their post-war activities. Reporter
Del Schrader has written some newspaper articles about the secret
organization, plus a book titled, Jesse James Was One of His Names.

The book is about a character who at one time called himself Col.
J. Frank Dalton. However on May 19, 1948, this elderly gentleman
announced to the world that he was none other than the notorious
outlaw, Jesse Woodson James, denying that he was killed in 1882 as
the history books relate. He also claimed to have headed the
underground KGC following the Civil War and to have knowledge of
the locations of its various hidden troves. Once of his claims was
not uncommon, though, for over the decades several phony characters
have appeared to announce that they were Jesse James.

On April 22, 1973, the Los Angeles Herald Examiner published
a report by Del Schrader under the headline "$100 billion in
Treasure, the search for Rebel Gold." The story covered his
interviews with several sons, grandsons, and great-grandsons of
long-dead members of the KGC.

Schrader, now deceased, said he was shown several maps of KGC
caches. However, one of the decendents stated, "They won't do
anybody much good. The maps are accurate as far as they go, but
you'd need the two or three transparent overlays, which each fill
in a landmark, for the specifics. In most cases, a vital point
of reference is carved on a nearby rock."

Another old-timer offered, "Quantrill and Jesse James (both
notorious guerillas), along with 10 other members of the Inner
Circle, vowed they would beg, borrow, or steal gold so that Civil
War II, if it ever came, could be fought on a cash and carry
basis... many former Confederate officers headed west, profited
and tithed up to 50% of their annual incomes."

The original Knights of the Golden Circle formally disbanded the
organization and closed its books in 1916, but their descendants
still maintain the vows of secrecy and silence taken by the old
Confederate veterans. This new generation, however, has vouched
that the old veterans stashed away money and other treasure in
many states in the Union, and even in some Canadian provinces.
They claim too, that most of these caches are booby trapped.

One of these alleged caches is said to be located near Cat Den
Butte in western Texas. Supposedly holding some $30 million in
gold, plus a quantity of silver. The treasure vault lies deep in
the side of a hill near a river, according to one authority.
A series of transparent overlays are required to obtain detailed
information leading to the vault. One clue, "Look for a
slate-covered tombstone in the southeast corner of the old Mexican
cemetery," was offered by an informant. He added, "It bears coded
directions."

If the locations of these caches are known to the sons and
grandsons of members of the KGC's Inner Circle, why haven't they
been opened? "The old conspirators swore themselves and their
descendants to secrecy," according to Schrader. "It was almost
a religious thing with them. Anyone who revealed the secrets of
the Circle would have ended up dead."

Another thing, the caches were not to be disturbed until the last
Confederate passed to his reward. Of course that day has long
gone, so now the heirs are left with the problems of what to do
about their great secrets. Some have proposed using the treasure
for educational purposes, but they are divided as to how they
should proceed in that direction. On the other hand, they also
fear, if the caches are revealed, the Federal government may claim
all of it. What a quandry!

The heirs may be partially relieved of some of this dilemma for
several knowledgeable professional hunters have been quietly
searching for these troves in recent years. For instance, a group
of Eau Claire Wisconsin, researchers have discovered coded markings
in sandstone in the Park Falls area, coupled with similar markings
near Mellen. After 15 years of research these people are convinced
these signs, along with others in western and southern states, are
clues to KGC troves.

Reported Sites of the Secret Caches

Arizona- $175 Million

Arkansas- Unknown amount at Wild Cat Bluff, near Centerpoint

California- Sacramento $41 Million; San Gabriel Canyon, $1.6
Million; El Monte $250,000; Nevada City $16 Million similar amounts
in the area of Grass Valley and Placerville; Porterville $3.3
Million. Other caches are rumored in, or near San Diego, San Jose,
San Pedro, and San Franscisco.

Carolinas- $500 Million

Colorado- Underwater treasure of the Curious Mule, site unknown,
also,the Vanishing Wagon Treasure near Fairplay Park Colorado.

Georgia- $413 Million, which includes Confederate caches near
Savannah, Sparta, Allentown, Bolton & Kingsland - all possible
KGC troves.

Nevada and Utah- $300 Million

New England- $333 Million

New Mexico- $630 Million in various caches. Plus an unknown amount
buried by Confederates east of Tolar, near Santa Fe Railroad.

Oregon- $333 Million

Tennessee- A vault in mountain off the Old Nashville Pike about
11 miles from Nashville.

Texas- Three Rivers treasure of $30 Million in gold in central part
of the state. Also, a steel safe under water about a mile east of
Brazos River bridge in Waco. Cat Den Butte cache in west Texas.

Washington- $175 Million.

 

[cccalco]

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Booth Tells All! -- KGC
Bill Kingsbury
Fri, 5 Mar 1999 23:38:40 -0500
from: http://www.kamellia.com/KGC.htm

********snip large portions of fantasy and pseudo-history drivel******

The link is broke....where can one find the original source of this silliness?

http://www.kamellia.com/KGC.htm was the stated original source for "Bill Kingsbury" who originally posted (Fri, 5 Mar 1999 23:38:40 -0500) the article to a site that can now ONLY be found in archives. This article is archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg06918.html. I never saw the original post at the site formerly belonging to an alledged KKK faction at http://www.kamellia.com/. Mr. Kingsbury's post would indicate that the 'THE KNIGHTS OF THE WHITE KAMELLIA (KWK)' operated the website prior to March 1999 but it now belongs to an Oriential syle bellydancer named Kamellia (copywrite 2001)

 

[cccalco]

-Caveat Lector!-
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Booth Tells All! -- KGC
Bill Kingsbury
Fri, 5 Mar 1999 23:38:40 -0500
from: http://www.kamellia.com/KGC.htm

********snip large portions of fantasy and pseudo-history drivel******

The link is broke....where can one find the original source of this silliness?

http://www.kamellia.com/KGC.htm was the stated original source for "Bill Kingsbury" who originally posted (Fri, 5 Mar 1999 23:38:40 -0500) the article to a site that can now ONLY be found in archives. This article is archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg06918.html. I never saw the original post at the site formerly belonging to an alledged KKK faction at http://www.kamellia.com/. Mr. Kingsbury's post would indicate that the 'THE KNIGHTS OF THE WHITE KAMELLIA (KWK)' operated the website prior to March 1999 but it now belongs to an Oriential syle bellydancer named Kamellia (copywrite 2001)

Doesn't it bother you...just a little bit... copy/pasting random crap you find on the internet?

Try doing a little bit of fact-checking before you try to spread worthless propaganda and butcher Real History

Archiving doesn't bother me at all and in fact I look forward to it or I would not be doing at all and if it were not for the overwhelming positive response that we have received for it I might question it myself.
I do appreciate that much of what we have found on the internet is conspiratorial nonsense but in archiving all that can be found on the "Southern Clubs" of the period the best that I can offer for the discerning reader is a 'caveat lector'

 

[uthunter]

Anyone interested in reading the book cited in Gollums post, you can download a digital copy here.

http://openlibrary.org/works/OL3527673W/The_rise_and_fall_of_the_Confederate_government

 

[cw0909]

ive been looking for a soldier, for a friend from the CW,that was never found and brought home or a record of his burial,so ive been reading a lot of 1st person accounts,hoping to find his name mentioned,anyway i ran across this and its the 1st mention of the KGC,ive ever read by a soldier
dont know if it helps or not,but the mans opinion of the KGC is strong to the negative of the group
not trying to debate anything just posting a find
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Camp-fire chats of the Civil War ... By Washington Davis
Doubtless this incident will remind the veterans of 1861'65 of whole bookfuls of similar happenings. It reminded Maj. M. B. Parmeter, of the 77th Illinois, of one, which must be prefaced with an explanation:
There was a type of combatant in the North during the war known as "copper-head," the more virulent class of which were members of the " Knights of the Golden Circle;" the milder developments were less haughty, and were sometimes known as " plain copper-heads." But it is to the good feeling of all who stood by their country in the hour of her need, the S. P. U. H. included, that this entire type of citizens was limited, though the epithet was applied to many without desert.

It must not be understood by the term "combatant" that the main pillars of the K. of the G. C, with their adherents, were soldiers; for they kept as far to the rear as possible. They were combatants in everything except business at the front, and lacked the first principles of soldiership—patriotism and moral courage. They combated the policy of war from innate cowardice, more than from their love of peace; they decried emancipation because their opponents upheld it; opposed the government because it was not under their own direction. When the last call for troops was made, they were in sore lament. Already there were nearly a million soldiers in the field (and this was a thrust at all soldiers)—every man who became a soldier, and was detailed to forage, was no better than a thief, they said. Think of it—a million thieves, turned loose upon the unprotected citizens of the country! O temporal O mores! How homely to these "unprotected citizens" was the beautiful picture of the great concourse of a nation's children scattering to their peaceful homes across broad prairies, over mountains and through glens, to plow, preach, and pound anvils!
http://tinyurl.com/3gos6zq

 

[LECTRICHEART]

Lets see if I can get this right http://www.archive.org/stream/privatejournaldi00surr#page/58/mode/2up this is the private journal of John H. Surrat. He was a member of the KGC and explains the initiation in to the order as he experienced it. It also goes into how he and J.W. Booth were involved in the assassination of Lincoln. It is very interesting reading. It also leads one to believe that the KGC was dead broke at the end of the war.

 

[hombre_de_plata_flaco]

If the KGC is anything like the KKK then any "treasure" they may have had stashed away was dug up long ago and spent on things like crystal meth. I've met a few of these KKK retards down here. Trust me they are trash of the highest regard. I seriously doubt there are any "noble" KGC sentinels currently guarding "buried treasure" when they could just go dig up the stuff and use to loot to buy a bunch of scratch off lottery tickets.

 

[Hoss KGC]

and every tree with carvings leads to treasure.

You finally understand!!!

 

[L.C. BAKER]

First, a little history about me. This way, you will know where I am coming from. I was raised by my paternal Grandparents in New Orleans, La. My Grandfather owned a couple of New Car Dealerships and a Stable of Tennessee Walking Horses and Sulky Racers. My Grandfather's first name was (dead now) Bedford. He was named after Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest, one of the founders of the Ku Klux Klan. My GGGrandfather was a 1st Lt. Walter R. McChesney of C Company, Kentucky 13th Volunteer Cavalry CSA(AKA Sypert's 13th). He was captured at Marshall, Al in 1864 and rode out the rest of the war in POW Camp (Don't know which one). Growing up, I helped David Duke (former Imperial Wizard of the KKK, and refounder of the Klan in Louisiana in the 70's) campaign for the Louisiana State Senate in 1975 (I put up posters, I was 12 years old). David Duke is a very intelligent and well spoken guy, but when he says all the racist stuff is only in his past, don't believe him. He was a racist, and will remain one until the day he dies (most likely)! I knew Ex-Sheriff Larry Rainey(Lawrence A. Rainey). He was the Sheriff of Neshoba County, Mississippi in 1964 when the three civil rights workers were murdered (See Mississippi Burning). After receiving a Not-Guilty Verdict in the Federal Trial, he moved to New Orleans (actually Metairie), and opened up a neighborhood bar. Now Back to me.....Growing up, I was the most racist, bigoted kid imaginable. Never actually joined the Klan though. Most of my racism stemmed from the fact that I went to Private Schools my whole life, and the only blacks I knew were my mammy (yes, I had a mammy), Hester, and her husband Coler, who kept my grandfather's horses. This is a fine lesson in "What you don't know CAN hurt you!" I graduated High School early and went into the military. OH MY GOD! I had to live with blacks, hispanics, Asians, and gays! CULTURE SHOCK! For a while, I stayed with my kind, but little by little, I began to get to know some of the cooler black guys, and found out they were great to hang out with (they taught me how to play spades and tonk and throw dice ). I became sort of their "Anti-Racism Project" It was then, that I had what alcoholics call a "Moment of Clarity." I thought to myself, "How could I have been so wrong for so long?" Ever since that one moment in 1980, I was a changed man (see what the military does for you?). Now on to the story...........

Growing up around the KKK, I was privy to hear certain aspects of Southern History you just don't get in books. I actually read in a post where somebody said (and I quote) "The REAL reason for the Civil War wasn't for the darkies. It was because the North was jealous of the South's riches!" Find TChimes' post about finding the metal box (Chimes didn't make the statement, that was someone else). This couldn't be farther from the truth. I inherited the two volume set of books "The Rise and Fall of the Confederate Government" by Jefferson L. Davis. They were published in 1881 (I believe, I'll have to get them out of storage and see), eight years before he died. These books are recommended reading for anyone wanting to know about the Civil War from the perspective of the President of the Confederacy. I'll post a thread about that at another time.

There was a good amount of money hidden by the fleeing Confederates near the end of the Civil War. Many were killed in the fighting, and many died in POW Camps such as Camp Douglas (Over 6000 dead from disease and mistreatment). Before you say anything, I know the South had Andersonville. There were several bad ones on both sides. In 1866, several former Confederate Soldiers (the highest ranking was General Nathan Bedford Forrest) founded the White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.

They got the name from the Greek word "Kyklos" (pronounced "koo-close")which means "Circle" and Clan (Ku Klux Klan). "Knights of the Clan of the Circle" basically. Is it starting to come together now? As of about 1867 there was only one KKK. Composed entirely of former Confederate Soldiers and Southern Sympathizers, their goal was to fight Reconstruction, harass the Carpet Baggers, harass Southern Republicans, and keep the blacks down. As ex-soldiers were joining the ranks, some of them told stories about how soldier buddies in the POW Camps had told them about buried gold before dying, and some of them had first hand knowledge about where some of these treasures and weapons caches were hidden. General Forrest (Who was the first Grand Wizard), decided that general knowledge about secret gold and weapons caches was much too dangerous for the majority of the ranks to know about.

General Forrest formed the Knights of the Golden Circle (KGC) in about 1868 from the groups most trustworthy and rabid anti-union troops. Their purpose was to research, hunt down, dig up, and bring in, any hidden caches of Gold and/or weapons that they could use. They did after all, plan on resurrecting the Confederacy, and they would need a lot of gold and guns to do it.

Supposedly, they were quite successful, and found help anywhere they went in the former Southern States. Their activities were always kept secret, and the locations of reburials were known to VERY FEW.

As far as Jesse and Frank James being members of the KGC, I have no knowledge, but he was a loyal fighter, and a rabid anti-unionist. I doubt it though. He was always too busy running from the law to have the time to research and hunt down hidden caches.

I have read the books about Albert Pike and how the KGC was a Secret Society that started the Civil War. I believe that to be a bunch of crap. There are no memorandum, membership lists, or anything else to even prove that there ever was a KGC in the first place. From what I learned growing up, I believe that the KGC was real, and the fact that there is still a KKK says to me that there might still be a KGC.

Here is how the two names are related:
1. KKK = Knights of the KyKlos (Koo-close, bast**dized to Ku Klux) Clan. "Knights of the Circle Clan"
2. KGC = Knights of the Golden Circle (They were after gold, and they were in the circle).

This is the history as I learned it.


Best of luck-Mike

Very interesting story! We have a lot in common, but I didn't have a Mammy. my folks hail from West Virginia on my Mom's side and Indiana on my Dad's side. Lot's of rebel stories and KKK stories in our past also. I attended a Military academy that had two black students out of 475 cadets. When I joined the Army I too went through the realizations you did and a healing process followed that took the bigotry right out of me. I take people for how they are and how they treat me and I am color blind now. The only thing I find disagreeable in you post is "their goal was to fight Reconstruction". From my research and investigation we have discovered that they "controlled" the reconstruction which was actually Civil War II and the South won it without firing a shot. Great Stuff about the history of the KKK thanks for this link.

L.C.

 

[L.C. BAKER]

Anyone interested in reading the book cited in Gollums post, you can download a digital copy here.

http://openlibrary.org/works/OL3527673W/The_rise_and_fall_of_the_Confederate_government

I had it on google to search for when I saw this post! Thanks

L.C.

 

[tammahawk]

The Kgc and KKK were both real ,The kkk was not a racially motivated group like we see today, The kkk even had black members at 1st, The kkk was a group set up to draw attention away from the kgc, bretheren just the same though. The kgc and kkk and masons Templars Illuminaty , Rose Croix , Knights of malta, ect ect ect, are all the same group, they have changed names, gone underground resurfaced many times. the name change is to illude persecution of their beliefs and what they are doing, like when the Templars left France and sailed to Scottland to form the 1st Scottish rite Masons. I have a better name for them, since this is always the common bond "the Initiates", it is Initiation, any group that has Initiation is some sort of secret society and hence all the same.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

SHHHH!

 

[stevesno]

An old pro....I know that you speak the truth 100 percent. For I have experienced what you have. I agree with your advice to Gollum that if he continues to follow the Hoot Owl trail...and if he gets close. I'm not talking Jesuit, but KgC. He will get an "education" that he didn't bargain for. There are no forgotten or lost KGC caches out there....there are those involved in the organization who know Exactly where they are.
I don't post much anymore...I'm very confused with the knowledge that I have learned and what to share and what not to share. Nonbeliever scan scoff all they wish. But if you are on this "hoot owl " trail. If they know who you are....every move is being tracked if you have a smartphone. Just sayin, it took me a while to realize this. Nuff said for now
Hoss good to see you posting again!

 

[L.C. BAKER]

Mike,
This is one of the best posts I have ever read on TNet. I can definitely identify with your epiphany in the service. I went in as a green as grass Southern boy and came out a changed man.
As far as the KGC, there is so little real information out there that your piece fills in some gaps.
Don't know if any KGC are still out there, seems to me that it's been so long that the newer generations would be less committed. I'm sure that somebody would have dug them up by now.
Thanks for the background sketch. Always interesting to find out about the fascinating folks on here.

grizzly bare

Actually something they left for a future generation was dug op in 1970 I can honestly say without a doubt that the answer to this thread is they are a fact and not fiction!
This is a good thread. L.C.