Key and Lock

[chris herron]

hello I'm pretty new to the hobby and have been on only four or five hunts at parks and my own backyard.Today at a friends house I found my first real fine in some woods next to his place .Next to a very large oak tree I got a really faint signal when I dug down at about 18 inches (which I thought was a lot deeper than my metal detector should be able to go agian I'm new )I found this key when I put the pin pointer back in the hole it hit on something else just an inch away from where the key was I found this lock.I was hoping someone could give me an idea of what type of key and lock this is as well is the best way to clean them.the key is much too large to fit into this lock it seems but it was right next to it .they were two other giant oak trees in the vicinity and I did not have time to search any longer do too the sunset settings.

 

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[chris herron]

What I find so strange is that most of these locks have "straight slots" for entry of the key.
The one you found appears to have a jagged looking lightning bolt.

yeah I noticed that as well all the examples that I see are straight slots I don't know if that means the one I have is an older or newer model I would love to find out who the maker was and a better time frame but I know its at least 1663 or thereabouts

 

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[BertC]

yeah I noticed that as well all the examples that I see are straight slots I don't know if that means the one I have is an older or newer model I would love to find out who the maker was and a better time frame but I know its at least 1663 or thereabouts

I totally agree with you.

 

[chris herron]

this look similar. the bit on side may be the key!View attachment 926096

yes it sure does the one that I have from what I understand the staple is withdrawn bodily from the lock which makes it completely separate and easy to lose. the author of the book referred back to a lock from India that was similar as far as the internal mechanism but,the example from Paris having 2 springs and one from India having 1 spring.what I don't understand is what is the small pin attached to one side of the lock used for.what is its purpose.I noticed in the book that I refer to earlier with the drawing of the lock has the same exact pin.what is it.I wonder

 

[taz42o]

My guess on the pin is that it was to keep the shackle attached to the lock when unlocked.
I see that type of locking mechanism reffered to as a turning key lock.

 

[chris herron]

My guess on the pin is that it was to keep the shackle attached to the lock when unlocked.
I see that type of locking mechanism reffered to as a turning key lock.

that's great thank you so much for the informationit makes total sense

 

[mommababe2]

Could it possibly be off of an old sea trunk or something to that effect? I know the ones that were kept on ships were pretty large and sturdy way back when....Just an idea

 

[chris herron]

Could it possibly be off of an old sea trunk or something to that effect? I know the ones that were kept on ships were pretty large and sturdy way back when....Just an idea

yeah the more I look into it the more it looks like a medieval type of lock seems pretty rare from all the examples but I cannot find one with the same key configuration as the one I have.Interesting.if that's the case it must have been pretty old already when it made the trip over here.The Keyless Lock Store (The Access Control Specialists ) Nokey.com here is an example of that medieval lock check it out pretty cool.type medieval locks under the search bar and it will pull it up