It was in the 2nd year of the CONFEDERATE WAR...

[ECS]

I asked about the Boone's salt mine you were complaining about. I didn't ask about any of this.

Since when is asking for one to cite a source considered complaining?
Still the source of this information is not provided.
As for these earlier posts, you may notice an inconsistency to latter posts concerning the same information.

 

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[Old Silver]

Since when is asking for one to cite a source complaining?
As for these earlier posts, you may notice an inconsistency to latter posts.

You're continually saying things like " inconsistency to latter posts," etc. is the complaining we're talking about. But by all means, don't stop.

 

[ECS]

You're continually saying things like " inconsistency to latter posts," etc. is the complaining we're talking about. But by all means, don't stop.

No, I am not talking about you constant stalking complaining, but how some information presented changes from post to post.
But, then again, you know what I mean, no reason to act obtuse.

 

[Old Silver]

No, I am not talking about you constant stalking complaining, but how some information presented changes from post to post.
But, then again, you know what I mean, no reason to act obtuse.

Name calling again? Not that it really matters. I'm beginning to enjoy it.

 

[ECS]

Just an observation concerning this current attempt of yours to draw me into an argument so you can complaint to the moderators.

 

[Old Silver]

Just an observation concerning this current attempt of yours to draw me into an argument so you can complaint to the moderators.

Nope. Wrong again.

 

[franklin]

Just an observation concerning this current attempt of yours to draw me into an argument so you can complaint to the moderators.

No one has to argue with you. You sometimes argue with yourself.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

If the "bickering" is over... MOVING ON; doing R & I with LYNCHBURG IN THE CIVIL WAR: The City, The People, The Battle by George MORRIS & Susan Foutz... AND! LYNCHBURG, VIRGINIA: The First Two Hundred Years, 1786-1986... REAL HISTORY!

 

[franklin]

If the "bickering" is over... MOVING ON; doing R & I with LYNCHBURG IN THE CIVIL WAR: The City, The People, The Battle by George MORRIS & Susan Foutz... AND! LYNCHBURG, VIRGINIA: The First Two Hundred Years, 1786-1986... REAL HISTORY!

Be careful sometimes real history is embellished just a little bit. I too have started searching for new sources of information and Lynchburg and the Bedford County area is two of the best places to look.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Got two more books for the CONFEDERATE WAR "theory", from the Library, today (REAL History); CAMPAIGN and BATTLE of LYNCHBURG, VIRGINIA by Charles M. Blackford, and THE STREETS of LYNCHBURG by Martha Helen Cleveland Craddock. What I like about this theory is that it has REAL people to do R & I on... "JB" Ward, "CSA Max", etc.

 

[franklin]

Got two more books for the CONFEDERATE WAR "theory", from the Library, today (REAL History); CAMPAIGN and BATTLE of LYNCHBURG, VIRGINIA by Charles M. Blackford, and THE STREETS of LYNCHBURG by Martha Helen Cleveland Craddock. What I like about this theory is that it has REAL people to do R & I on... "JB" Ward, "CSA Max", etc.

You posted, "The Streets of Lynchburg" by Martha Helen Cleveland Craddock, five years ago are you reading it again?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

You posted, "The Streets of Lynchburg" by Martha Helen Cleveland Craddock, five years ago are you reading it again?

I am... new topic.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

R & I is still on the CONFEDERATE WAR; several sources (including PV), indicated that RM died at the home of his niece, Mrs. David Saunders (Jr.) on Roslyn Street in Lynchburg, Virginia in 1863. It is a SHORT Street (aka Roslyn Place) in the general "area" of 15th Street, off of Grace Street (which goes up to the Presbyterian Cemetery on Grace Street). It is "above" several Tobacco Warehouses (currently restored & utilized as businesses; another warehouse "fell down", a few years ago... bricks were going for @ $50 a brick to "collectors"... heh). ANYWAY, "Roslyn Place runs off the 1500 Block of Grace Street to Locust Ave."; BEEN THERE! Will do R & I on David Saunders, Jr. next; "franklin', you had some good info on him & his father...

 

[franklin]

R & I is still on the CONFEDERATE WAR; several sources (including PV), indicated that RM died at the home of his niece, Mrs. David Saunders (Jr.) on Roslyn Street in Lynchburg, Virginia in 1863. It is a SHORT Street (aka Roslyn Place) in the general "area" of 15th Street, off of Grace Street (which goes up to the Presbyterian Cemetery on Grace Street). It is "above" several Tobacco Warehouses (currently restored & utilized as businesses; another warehouse "fell down", a few years ago... bricks were going for @ $50 a brick to "collectors"... heh). ANYWAY, "Roslyn Place runs off the 1500 Block of Grace Street to Locust Ave."; BEEN THERE! Will do R & I on David Saunders, Jr. next; "franklin', you had some good info on him & his father...

Yes but they could not have been the same two David Saunders as both of the David Saunders either lived in Richmond, Va. or had another home in Richmond and Lynchburg. The David Saunders Jr. that married Robert Morriss' niece lived and died in Bedford County in 1850 over ten years before the Civil War began. I am presently going back and researching 1806 to 1823 to find any beginnings of the Beale Mystery such as the expedition out west. Everyone has already searched around the 1885 era of the Job Print Pamphlet. Must dig a little deeper because somewhere there is a coverup of the story. I mean when you can not even find the Hunter Hill's Plantation or Risque's Plantation or the cemetery where Giles Ward and wife and James B. Ward and wife and at least three children are buried is a mystery in itself. I plan on resolving some of these mysteries.

PS I have found the locations of both houses where Robert Morriss lived in Lynchburg, Va. and the location of the Washington House or Washington Inn.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Yeah, as to THAT, I found out that WASHINGTON Street (on the RIVERFRONT) "hit" the OLD Canal, & curved up to "intersect" with MAIN STREET in L'burg; RM's House/Inn was at the HEAD of MAIN STREET, which is CORRECT... in the "GENERAL AREA" of Texas Inn on 5th Street & MAIN. Even Larry C. Hinson, in his book, SECRET MISSION of THOMAS JEFFERSON BEALE, thought so; has "PICS". At THAT time, Black Water Creek was at the rear of RM's House/Inn (of the OLD days). Ppl got up to Daniel's Hill (D Street) by walking, etc the "River-front" Road/Path, going past the OLD Train Depot "area". Then, Maj ES Hutter, CSA founded the RIVERMOUNT Comp. after the CW, and built the OLD Rivermount Bridge to "connect" to MAIN STREET in L'burg. "ES" & family lived on the D Street of Daniel"s Hill. Today, L'burg P & R has a WALKING TRAIL that "travels" that area; wife & I walk for GREAT exercise & seeing the history of "THE OLD DAYS"! We went to Depot Grille for Fried Oysters, New Year's Eve... YUM! Depot Griile was the old Train Depot that TJ Jackson's body was "off-loaded" in 1863, and "on-loaded" into the packet boat, THE MARSHALL, going UP-RIVER to Lexington, Va. BURIED in a CONFEDERATE Cemetery... near VMI (he was a "Prof" there, PROBABLY teaching the "Art of War"... dunno).

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Back from Jones Memorial Library (an hour, ago); NOTHING on David Saunders, Jr; NOTHING on Roslyn Street/Place. Went back downstairs to MAIN Library... found Scrugg's History Book; has 1877 map of L'burg, Va. "CSA Max"'s home is indicated at the "HEAD" of MAIN STREET, like RM's; in the "general area" of Texas Inn on 5th & MAIN. Look for 1877 map of L'burg, Va.

 

[franklin]

Back from Jones Memorial Library (an hour, ago); NOTHING on David Saunders, Jr; NOTHING on Roslyn Street/Place. Went back downstairs to MAIN Library... found Scrugg's History Book; has 1877 map of L'burg, Va. "CSA Max"'s home is indicated at the "HEAD" of MAIN STREET, like RM's; in the "general area" of Texas Inn on 5th & MAIN. Look for 1877 map of L'burg, Va.

Max sr. and Mas jr. were both jews and they did not sale any books. They were in the shoe and boot business.

Don't you think it strange that they changed the name of the Washington House to the Arlington after the Civil War or actually about the time the Beale Treasure Story came out. Because it was still the Washington House in 1873. Also, Arlington is the location of Robert E. Lee's property that was seized by the US Government for a Cemetery. And Robert E. Lee inherited the property from Washington or maybe their kin. Could mean that the funds for the South to rise again is buried there?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Dunno... doubt it.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Max, Sr. NEVER lived in Lynchburg, Va. According to P.L. Scruggs in his book, THE HISTORY OF LYNCHBURG, VIRGINIA: 1786-1946 (REAL History)... Max, Jr. was a native of Bavaria, who settled in Lynchburg in 1859; signing up for the Home Guard (CSA). He fought in several battles as a member of Company G of the 11th Infantry; discharged in 1862, returning home to L'burg, became VERY busy with his Business, Temple & Freemason Lodge. "His charitable works were many, and his name is still memorialized in the Guggenheimer Nursing Home" LYNCHBURG, VIRGINIA: The First 200 Years, 1786-1986 by James M. Elson, p. 264. (nice "pic" of him, too; SAME "pic" that wife & I saw in his TEMPLE, when we visited the Rabbi, years go...).

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Update: James D. (David) Saunders DIED on June 6, 1851 from a "mortal wound" (Duel with Editor A.W.C. Terry of the VIRGINIAN, at the market place on 9th St. in L'burg, Va.); LYNCHBURG, VIRGINIA: The First Two Hundred Years, 1786-1986 by James M. Elson. MORE R & I...