Is this a rare error coin or one at all ? 43' steel head penny

[Headtellimdead]

Is this a error coin it looks like it has a lot of doubling I'll post more pictures

 

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[Headtellimdead]

Is this a error coin it looks like it has a lot of doubling I'll post more picturesView attachment 2187639View attachment 2187640View attachment 2187641View attachment 2187643

43' steel head penny

 

[l.cutler]

No, not seeing any errors. Doubling in and of itself really doesn't mean much, there are many types of doubling most of which are not considered errors and add nothing to the coin. The steel used to strike these was much harder on dies than the bronze was, so you'll see a lot of anomalies on steel cents.

 

[cudamark]

Typical circulated steel cent....worth maybe $1 on a good day.

 

[Trezurehunter]

I don't believe it is a doubling error. The coin looks well circulated, and what usually happens, is the letters and numbers kind of smash down and create a "doubling" look.

 

[ConceptualizedNetherlandr]

'steel head' is a rainbow trout on a spawning run. But your cent seems to be the die variety with the SW pointing 3. Fairly rare.

 

[l.cutler]

'steel head' is a rainbow trout on a spawning run. But your cent seems to be the die variety with the SW pointing 3. Fairly rare.

Interesting, do you have any references for this? To my understanding all genuine 1943 cents have the southwest pointing 3, that's one of the identifiers to tell genuine from an altered 1948 or 1945. The date is in the working hub and shouldn't change from die to die.

 

[ConceptualizedNetherlandr]

Interesting, do you have any references for this? To my understanding all genuine 1943 cents have the southwest pointing 3, that's one of the identifiers to tell genuine from an altered 1948 or 1945. The date is in the working hub and shouldn't change from die to die.

I dun recall where I read that. But try an image search, IIRC the SW is rare.

 

[l.cutler]

OK, did a lot of searching even questioned some dedicated Lincoln variety collectors and did find what you must have read. It's as I suspected, southwest pointing three is a diagnostic for identifying the rare 1943 bronze, to make sure it isn't an altered 1945 or 1948. All genuine 1943's had the SW pointing three, so if a bronze one didn't, it was altered. It doesn't help much these days because now most of the fakes are made in China with proper details, composition and weight. Been collecting for 55 years and thought there was a variety I hadn't heard of, thanks for stirring up a dusty old mind, it needs it once in a while!

 

[ConceptualizedNetherlandr]

OK, did a lot of searching even questioned some dedicated Lincoln variety collectors and did find what you must have read. It's as I suspected, southwest pointing three is a diagnostic for identifying the rare 1943 bronze, to make sure it isn't an altered 1945 or 1948. All genuine 1943's had the SW pointing three, so if a bronze one didn't, it was altered. It doesn't help much these days because now most of the fakes are made in China with proper details, composition and weight. Been collecting for 55 years and thought there was a variety I hadn't heard of, thanks for stirring up a dusty old mind, it needs it once in a while!

LOL. I just did a search, check this

This one is the D over D MM. And looks to be pointing west.

If you check those images in the search we notice the tail of the 3 orientation is very sensitive to rotation. In the example above the E in WE is at high noon. Use that as an index point and notice that they are not all printed the same.

 

[enamel7]

'steel head' is a rainbow trout on a spawning run. But your cent seems to be the die variety with the SW pointing 3. Fairly rare.

Seeing as how all working dies are made from the master die I don't see how there can be a different "3"

 

[l.cutler]

Seeing as how all working dies are made from the master die I don't see how there can be a different "3"

Exactly, while there can be some minor differences due to die wear, die polishing and the like the orientation and overall shape of the lettering, date and devices cannot change. While I certainly may be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time, and I'm willing to keep an open mind, none of the grading companies or variety specialists recognize such a variety.