is anyone here living off the grid and away from the

[Peyton Manning]

smart phones have a gps in them, you can be found. I have no smart phone ( don't like a gadget smarter than me)

 

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[squiggy]

I always turn my gps off

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[masterjedi]

Squig I was talking about you! You need to Google up on what off the grid means... LOL

 

[Peyton Manning]

I always turn my gps off

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you 'think' you do

 

[squiggy]

Sounds like we have a different definition

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[masterjedi]

off the grid is off the grid..... your either off or your on.... there is no other way

 

[squiggy]

If you think off the grid means you have no cell phone, your way off the mark..Ive lived this way for 24 years and Im not going to debate it with you!

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[masterjedi]

OK don't

I know people "off the grid"... no lights, no phones, no TV, not even a drivers license, don't pay taxes, pay cash for everything.... they are "off the grid"...

I am happy you like the way you are living.... great for you!

 

[Oregon Viking]

smart phones have a gps in them, you can be found. I have no smart phone ( don't like a gadget smarter than me)

How's that working out for you Jeff?
Sorry.....

 

[Peyton Manning]

well, the gov has not got me in a cell yet

 

[Peyton Manning]

not to mention the pipe wrench that I beat at chess everytime

 

[Oregon Viking]

OK
I lean towards kinda off the grid.
I have a well, wood stove, generators, I can get......deer, elk, turkey, pheasant, quail...and many species of fish. I still want my computer and TV.
It is time to make my own beer, and build a still.

 

[squiggy]

Anybody wants to know what off the grid is, check the definition..off the grid you have access to computer tv etc, but not from the utility co

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[Peyton Manning]

do a red beer, not the hoppy junk

 

[Peyton Manning]

Anybody wants to know what off the grid is, check the definition..off the grid you have access to computer tv etc, but not from the utility co

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so your phone isn't sprint, verizon, att or such?

 

[squiggy]

Talking about what powers THE HOUSE..we have no house phone..course guess I coukd get a tin can and retire

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[Oregon Viking]

do a red beer, not the hoppy junk

Thank you sir. I was thinking of a red beer, porter or Barleywine.
"light beer" is beer I have already consumed.... ......

 

[pat-tekker-cat]

Hey davest, not sure how "off the grid" you trying to go......
I guess there's homeless and broke "off the grid", and there's, just got fed up and have resources "off the grid".
My parents and my husband grew up "off the grid", but that was before there were even "grids", in some places.

The Foxfires are good resource books, for certain things. I got most of them, but missing a few volumes. Mother Earth news is good, too.
You got land? House? I'm figuring you may be partial to heat and/or a/c, refrigerator, hot water, lights.......

I was reading a real good thread in the gold prospectors forum, some of the guys were talking solar and electricity and stuffs. Some of them install and/or work in solar and electricity. Thought it might could give you some ideas.
Good luck, too.

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/gold-prospecting/441151-can-you-wire-bilge-pump-outlet.html

 

[Mad Machinist]

nutcases called the city?

What tips can you share to become self sufficient and self reliant?

Thanks in advance.

davest,

The question is, is how off grid do you want to go? Do you want a simple back up system? Or do you want a completely self sufficient place that requires very little, if anything from the outside world. If you want little to no resources from the outside world, be prepared to make a few sacrifices. Like no TV, no internet, no running to the market everyday, etc.

With the recent additions to our "hunting cabin (mostly bedrooms)", it is approaching 3000 square feet, but it is completely "off grid". IT IS NOT CHEAP.

Solar electric with generator backup, some wind turbines, half a dozen forklift batteries for storage (with 12 more sitting without acid for backups), 10,000 gallon in cisterns for rainwater collection with UV purification. Most lighting is 12 volt to eliminate the need for expensive inverters. Heat is geothermal with wood backup.

Fruit cellar hammered 75' back into a mountain side through solid rock for food storage (being a miner has it's advantages). Temps stay around 50 degrees year round. All meat is smoked and cured. Did I mention that living completely off grid isn't easy?

Here's something that will keep you and many others busy for awhile. Remember living off grid means you waste nothing.

How to turn plastic waste into diesel fuel cheaply

 

[Mad Machinist]

TH,

I hope this link is ok. If not then just put a message up for those who want to know to PM me and I will send then the link. These people are a lot further along than most. Lots of good information here.

Here is my hand built 16x40 house off grid - Survivalist Forum