IRS seeks to rein in tax-exempt groups after Tea Party targeting scandal

Dave44:

This is what was posted under your TN handle:

"He wants you to post it so that he can claim 'plausible deniability' and say,,,,, 'UH UH'.. and then 'i know I am but what are you'. maybe even a ' your facts are short on facts, factually'. Or some other childish response ( surely he knows a few more?)."

That's a lie.

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo
 

Gentlemen end it please.....
 

Old Bookaroo said:
Unclebuck257:

Olroy70 made the statement. I asked him to back it up. Some people here on TN are willing and able to document what they claim are facts. Some are not.

Since the statement was his and not mine, I don't see how it is up to me to prove him wrong.

Just for the record - non- (not-for-) profits don't contribute to political parties or campaigns.

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo[/QUOte

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Not to worry, book.................

I know. you libs always spout your facts without backup.

:BangHead:
 

Old Bookaroo said:
Dave44:

This is what was posted under your TN handle:

"He wants you to post it so that he can claim 'plausible deniability' and say,,,,, 'UH UH'.. and then 'i know I am but what are you'. maybe even a ' your facts are short on facts, factually'. Or some other childish response ( surely he knows a few more?)."

That's a lie.

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo
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Clearly some of the people here are under the impression that the rules against name calling don't apply to them. Like the guy who sent me a PM earlier calling me a "poser" because in his paranoid mind I'm someone else he had "issues" with in the past. What a hoot some of you are...
 

Old Bookaroo said:
Unclebuck257:

Olroy70 made the statement. I asked him to back it up. Some people here on TN are willing and able to document what they claim are facts. Some are not.

Since the statement was his and not mine, I don't see how it is up to me to prove him wrong.

Just for the record - non- (not-for-) profits don't contribute to political parties or campaigns.

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo[/QUOte

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you seem to think I would lie about that, book.

might do you some good to look into things a little, before calling me out. I paid aarp dues for a while. decided if they were going to give it to people who outright lie to win their place in history, I would NOT let them use MY money to do it with.

Life has taught me more than books. I did use books to further my career, but it sure wasnt politics. today, I am busy spending the money I saved in the good old SS system. thanks for keeping me living in grand style
 

McConnell Campaign Hired Key Figure In National Right To Work Complaint, Records Show - OpenSecrets Blog

Lobbying Spending Database-AARP, 2008 | OpenSecrets IMG_client_year_comp.png
 

olroy70:

I did not say you lied about anything.

You made a statement and I asked you to please back it up.

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo
 

olroy70:

Since it's only "libs" who spout facts without backup, I look forward to reading your documentation for your claim the AARP has contributred to the Democratic Party.

As being a "lib" - you betcha!

"What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label 'Liberal?' If by 'Liberal' they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of 'Liberal.' But if by a 'Liberal' they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a 'Liberal,' then I'm proud to say I'm a 'Liberal.'...

In short, having set forth my view -- I hope for all time -- two nights ago in Houston, on the proper relationship between church and state [highly recommended! TOB], I want to take the opportunity to set forth my views on the proper relationship between the state and the citizen. This is my political credo: I believe in human dignity as the source of national purpose, in human liberty as the source of national action, in the human heart as the source of national compassion, and in the human mind as the source of our invention and our ideas. It is, I believe, the faith in our fellow citizens as individuals and as people that lies at the heart of the liberal faith. For liberalism is not so much a party creed or set of fixed platform promises as it is an attitude of mind and heart, a faith in man's ability through the experiences of his reason and judgment to increase for himself and his fellow men the amount of justice and freedom and brotherhood which all human life deserves....


~ John F. Kennedy, Sept. 14, 1960


Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo
 

just trying to keep my dignity.........and my guns.............. and, my doctors.............and, my money, what is left of it.

keep paying those ss taxes!!!!!!!!!!

and, remember............kennedy tried everything he knew trying to get me killed......... btw. last dem I voted for!!!!
 

only YOU know it all. but, the records prove aarp has supported every dem.... and, I wont let them use MY money to do that................:laughing7:
 

olroy, I can't find anything that says AARP directly contributes to the Dem's. They are used more in a lobby type way, in that they use them to influence their members. Much like a friend of mine, whose sis and bro-n-law own one of the largest privately held healthcare companies in USA. They ask them to "direct" there employees to vote this way or that. When you have over 100K employees, well.... you get attention.

I did find this for you.

Democratic convention used corporate cash, despite pledge to only use funds from individuals | Fox News

"More modest checks came from the American Financial Services Association, which represents credit card and financial companies, and the senior group AARP. Both are registered as entities that lobby the federal government."

Now, as far as their(aarp) CEO goes, that's another story, an $8000.00 story.

New AARP chief gave big to Obama | TheHill

One would wonder, what kinda return you get, being big CEO of big AARP, on those numbers?
I always say: Follow the money trail.......
 

Book. "What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label 'Liberal?' If by 'Liberal' they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of 'Liberal.' But if by a 'Liberal' they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a 'Liberal,' then I'm proud to say I'm a 'Liberal.'...

In short, having set forth my view -- I hope for all time -- two nights ago in Houston, on the proper relationship between church and state [highly recommended! TOB], I want to take the opportunity to set forth my views on the proper relationship between the state and the citizen. This is my political credo: I believe in human dignity as the source of national purpose, in human liberty as the source of national action, in the human heart as the source of national compassion, and in the human mind as the source of our invention and our ideas. It is, I believe, the faith in our fellow citizens as individuals and as people that lies at the heart of the liberal faith. For liberalism is not so much a party creed or set of fixed platform promises as it is an attitude of mind and heart, a faith in man's ability through the experiences of his reason and judgment to increase for himself and his fellow men the amount of justice and freedom and brotherhood which all human life deserves....


~ John F. Kennedy, Sept. 14, 1960"

Kennedy would be aghast at the lurch forward into communist dogma the Democrat party has perpetuated. He didn't particularly care for Communists, He didn't like over taxation on Business or personal levels. Funny that Dems of today think they can Identify with Kennedy. He would have quit the party.
 

Dave44:

"Over taxation?" You mean his effort to reduce the highest marginal Federal income tax rate to 70%?

How about his efforts to increase the Federal minimum wage? Today's GNoP wouldn't go for that!

To claim today's Democratic Party is "lurching into communist dogma" is nonsense.

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo
 

"JFK's Address to the Economic Club of New York - December 14, 1962


Here's a lengthier treatment of his tax proposals in a speech before the Economic Club of New York later in 1962 soon after the Cuban Missile Crisis. Here are the key excerpts:


The final and best means of strengthening demand among consumers and business is to reduce the burden on private income and the deterrents to private initiative which are imposed by our present tax system; and this administration pledged itself last summer to an across-the-board, top-to-bottom cut in personal and corporate income taxes to be enacted and become effective in 1963.

I am not talking about a "quickie" or a temporary tax cut, which would be more appropriate if a recession were imminent. Nor am I talking about giving the economy a mere shot in the arm, to ease some temporary complaint. I am talking about the accumulated evidence of the last 5 years that our present tax system, developed as it was, in good part, during World War II to restrain growth, exerts too heavy a drag on growth in peace time; that it siphons out of the private economy too large a share of personal and business purchasing power; that it reduces the financial incentives for personal effort, investment, and risk-taking.

In short, to increase demand and lift the economy, the Federal Government's most useful role is not to rush into a program of excessive increases in public expenditures, but to expand the incentives and opportunities for private expenditures.

Corporate tax rates must also be cut to increase incentives and the availability of investment capital. The Government has already taken major steps this year to reduce business tax liability and to stimulate the modernization, replacement, and expansion of our productive plant and equipment. We have done this through the 1962 investment tax credit and through the liberalization of depreciation allowances - two essential parts of our first step in tax revision which amounted to a 10 percent reduction in corporate income taxes worth $2.5 billion. Now we need to increase consumer demand to make these measures fully effective - demand which will make more use of existing capacity and thus increase both profits and the incentive to invest. In fact, profits after taxes would be at least 15 percent higher today if we were operating at full employment.

For all these reasons, next year's tax bill should reduce personal as well as corporate income taxes, for those in the lower brackets, who are certain to spend their additional take-home pay, and for those in the middle and upper brackets, who can thereby be encouraged to undertake additional efforts and enabled to invest more capital.

And I am confident that the enactment of the right bill next year will in due course increase our gross national product by several times the amount of taxes actually cut. Profit margins will be improved and both the incentive to invest and the supply of internal funds for investment will be increased. There will be new interest in taking risks, in increasing productivity, in creating new jobs and new products for long-term economic growth.


Kennedy's proposed tax cuts were passed and ignited the longest economic expansion in America's history. Through the late 1960s, economic growth averaged more than 5 percent. And, tax revenues increased sharply, rising more than 33 percent faster than the rate of inflation over this same time period."

The tax rate under Roosevelt was killing America, Luckily that melanoma whooped him before he could finish his 4th presidential term.

A very scary attempt at dictatorship. Amazing what people will vote for with the right propaganda applied.
 

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