In my trash pouch 1700s token

[goldbill]

In my trash pouch 1700's token

Will post more later

 

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[jewelerguy]

Re: In my trash pouch 1700's token

that's pretty cool

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: In my trash pouch 1700's token

Not a Token as such but a medal/medallion

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: In my trash pouch 1700's token

Not a Token as such but a medal/medallion

And a heck of one too. That's the fort my 12 pound french cannonball originated.

 

[novafinder]

Re: In my trash pouch 1700's token

louisbourg cape breton ?

 

[joeyfresh]

Re: In my trash pouch 1700's token

I'm interested. What's the story behind the medal?

 

[goldbill]

Re: In my trash pouch 1700's token

Sorry for the abbreviated post earlier but I was late for a wake. Not a good thing. Anyway for the story. 16 degrees this morning and I had two hours to hunt .Went to what I think is the oldest area of our town and tried to work a real trashy area. I was really trying to just remove trash hoping for a good tone. This tone came up copper but when I picked it up, it was so big and so thin I thought can lid. When I checked the trash later something said wash that off. I have a hard time believing this is that old ,as our soil really does a number on copper .I was hoping someone would have an idea of what age this might be..It really seems to have some good detail I am going to soak it in oil for awhile and hope for more (detail).Thanks for the help and the comments Goldbill

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: In my trash pouch 1700's token

Sorry for the abbreviated post earlier but I was late for a wake. Not a good thing. Anyway for the story. 16 degrees this morning and I had two hours to hunt .Went to what I think is the oldest area of our town and tried to work a real trashy area. I was really trying to just remove trash hoping for a good tone. This tone came up copper but when I picked it up, it was so big and so thin I thought can lid. When I checked the trash later something said wash that off. I have a hard time believing this is that old ,as our soil really does a number on copper .I was hoping someone would have an idea of what age this might be..It really seems to have some good detail I am going to soak it in oil for awhile and hope for more (detail).Thanks for the help and the comments Goldbill

These medallions are made from lots of types of metal, yours looks kind of pewter It should be easy to ID with the amount of letters you have left. They often commemorated famous people or events, so might not be the date on the piece but 50 or 100 years later. Equally could be closer to the time. The ID will not take too long after you spell out all the letters.

 

[grasshopper]

Re: In my trash pouch 1700's token

got it!

Medal commemorating Admiral Edward Boscawen (1711-1761) and the capture of Louisbourg, 1758. Obverse: Admiral Boscawen, half-length figure (right). Legend: 'ADML BOSCAWEN TOOK CAPE BRETON.' Reverse: View of ships in harbour. Legend: 'LOUISBURG HARBOUR.' Exergue: 'IUL . 26 1758.

looks like it was made in 1758??

http://www.nmmprints.com/image/3930...61-and-the-capture-of-louisbourg-1758-obverse

edit: this looks like it might be pretty rare. if you do a google search most of the examples that come up are from reputable sources : museums, yale, stacks, etc. check it out.

 

[goldbill]

Re: In my trash pouch 1700's token

Sorry for the abbreviated post earlier but I was late for a wake. Not a good thing. Anyway for the story. 16 degrees this morning and I had two hours to hunt .Went to what I think is the oldest area of our town and tried to work a real trashy area. I was really trying to just remove trash hoping for a good tone. This tone came up copper but when I picked it up, it was so big and so thin I thought can lid. When I checked the trash later something said wash that off. I have a hard time believing this is that old ,as our soil really does a number on copper .I was hoping someone would have an idea of what age this might be..It really seems to have some good detail I am going to soak it in oil for awhile and hope for more (detail).Thanks for the help and the comments Goldbill

These medallions are made from lots of types of metal, yours looks kind of pewter It should be easy to ID with the amount of letters you have left. They often commemorated famous people or events, so might not be the date on the piece but 50 or 100 years later. Equally could be closer to the time. The ID will not take too long after you spell out all the letters.

Thanks crusader I don't know if I will get any more detail .(I have a bad track record with cleaning old coppers) I'm going to let it soak for a day or two in olive oil

 

[novafinder]

Re: In my trash pouch 1700's token

nice nova scotia relic you got there

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: In my trash pouch 1700's token

got it!

Medal commemorating Admiral Edward Boscawen (1711-1761) and the capture of Louisbourg, 1758. Obverse: Admiral Boscawen, half-length figure (right). Legend: 'ADML BOSCAWEN TOOK CAPE BRETON.' Reverse: View of ships in harbour. Legend: 'LOUISBURG HARBOUR.' Exergue: 'IUL . 26 1758.

looks like it was made in 1758??

http://www.nmmprints.com/image/3930...61-and-the-capture-of-louisbourg-1758-obverse

edit: this looks like it might be pretty rare. if you do a google search most of the examples that come up are from reputable sources : museums, yale, stacks, etc. check it out.

I knew it would be an easy ID, these commemorative Medals are pretty well documented

 

[goldbill]

Re: In my trash pouch 1700's token

got it!

Medal commemorating Admiral Edward Boscawen (1711-1761) and the capture of Louisbourg, 1758. Obverse: Admiral Boscawen, half-length figure (right). Legend: 'ADML BOSCAWEN TOOK CAPE BRETON.' Reverse: View of ships in harbour. Legend: 'LOUISBURG HARBOUR.' Exergue: 'IUL . 26 1758.

looks like it was made in 1758??

http://www.nmmprints.com/image/3930...61-and-the-capture-of-louisbourg-1758-obverse

edit: this looks like it might be pretty rare. if you do a google search most of the examples that come up are from reputable sources : museums, yale, stacks, etc. check it out.

Grasshopper you are amazing .That is what it says but the bust is a little different Mine doesn't have an arm on it . The arm is off above the elbow for sure but everything seems to match.. What brought that to Bangor Maine

 

[grasshopper]

Re: In my trash pouch 1700's token

got it!

Medal commemorating Admiral Edward Boscawen (1711-1761) and the capture of Louisbourg, 1758. Obverse: Admiral Boscawen, half-length figure (right). Legend: 'ADML BOSCAWEN TOOK CAPE BRETON.' Reverse: View of ships in harbour. Legend: 'LOUISBURG HARBOUR.' Exergue: 'IUL . 26 1758.

looks like it was made in 1758??

http://www.nmmprints.com/image/3930...61-and-the-capture-of-louisbourg-1758-obverse

edit: this looks like it might be pretty rare. if you do a google search most of the examples that come up are from reputable sources : museums, yale, stacks, etc. check it out.

Grasshopper you are amazing .That is what it says but the bust is a little different Mine doesn't have an arm on it . The arm is off above the elbow for sure but everything seems to match.. What brought that to Bangor Maine

looks like there are a few different varieties...

 

[grasshopper]

Re: In my trash pouch 1700's token

News of the capture of the fortress
of Louisbourg was met with widespread
enthusiasm by the English public, and
resulted in a large production of
commemorative medals. Most were of
inferior quality and produced in brass for
the general public. While produced in
large quantities, the poor workmanship
of these crude pieces is no doubt
responsible for their scarcity, since they
were probably not considered of
sufficient value to be saved. Although
the siege and capture of Louisbourg was a joint effort of the naval forces under
Boscawen and the army led by General
Amherst, curiously no mention of
Amherst is made on any of these medals

yours seems to be variety BETTS 403...one of the more common ones, unfortunately.

http://www.medalcollectors.org/pdf/the mca advisory february 2005.pdf
page 6​

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: In my trash pouch 1700's token

got it!

Medal commemorating Admiral Edward Boscawen (1711-1761) and the capture of Louisbourg, 1758. Obverse: Admiral Boscawen, half-length figure (right). Legend: 'ADML BOSCAWEN TOOK CAPE BRETON.' Reverse: View of ships in harbour. Legend: 'LOUISBURG HARBOUR.' Exergue: 'IUL . 26 1758.

looks like it was made in 1758??

http://www.nmmprints.com/image/3930...61-and-the-capture-of-louisbourg-1758-obverse

edit: this looks like it might be pretty rare. if you do a google search most of the examples that come up are from reputable sources : museums, yale, stacks, etc. check it out.

Grasshopper you are amazing .That is what it says but the bust is a little different Mine doesn't have an arm on it . The arm is off above the elbow for sure but everything seems to match.. What brought that to Bangor Maine

looks like there are a few different varieties...

Yes, most have many variants in different metals as well. But you have the general ID, spot on

 

[mainer]

Re: In my trash pouch 1700's token

Nice find from the Maine soil. Im afraid our detecting days are coming to an end. As winter feels like its creepin in on us.

 

[goldbill]

Re: In my trash pouch 1700's token

Nice find from the Maine soil. Im afraid our detecting days are coming to an end. As winter feels like its creepin in on us.

Yep 10 4 on that The grass areas of this park are still digable but just barely another night like last and that is all over. This park just keeps on giving (maybe the season) The mercury came from a spot another mercury came from this spring. How did I miss it then? I mean really only 12 inches .. Goldbill

 

[novafinder]

Re: In my trash pouch 1700's token

it probably should come home to nova scotia so i'll take it. lol just kidding congrats on a great find im finding american stuff and you are finding canadian cool huh stuff got around

 

[indian kirk]

Re: In my trash pouch 1700's token

Wow,Bill I'm speechless,You did this without the Indian Kirk ,Lol This coin seems like there wasn't many made,So for you to find this token or medallion in Maine was one that I don't think I will ever beat(good job)Did you find out how many was made and if they were used for monetary or bartering ,Was there a value or just a token ,anyhow what a nice find congrats Kirk