I'd call this lady but...
I'm not sure how to trace a 3 digit phone number. Found it beside an old barn.
I'm not sure how to trace a 3 digit phone number. Found it beside an old barn.
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Id call this lady but...
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Re: I'd call this lady but...
Charlene,
Interesting find. WTG...HH!
Charlene,
Interesting find. WTG...HH!
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I've written to the Franklin Librarian asking for a possible date that the town utilized 3 digit phone numbers. That will at least give me an idea of what years Patsy would have been living there, then maybe I can find a descendant to return the little brass relic to.
Wish me luck!
I've written to the Franklin Librarian asking for a possible date that the town utilized 3 digit phone numbers. That will at least give me an idea of what years Patsy would have been living there, then maybe I can find a descendant to return the little brass relic to.
Wish me luck!
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nice find charlene wtg and welcome to a great forum
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nice find charlene wtg and welcome to a great forum
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hbeaton
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Charlene,
Don't know the lady myself, but I bet my salt my family does. My whole family was born and raised in Franklin/Southampton County. I have always wanted to go to various older houses etc in the area to detect. Gotta be good stuff there! Always nice to see something from back home.
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Charlene,
Don't know the lady myself, but I bet my salt my family does. My whole family was born and raised in Franklin/Southampton County. I have always wanted to go to various older houses etc in the area to detect. Gotta be good stuff there! Always nice to see something from back home.
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Well thank you Hunter, any help would be greatly appreciated.? The Librarian has been so helpful assisting in research.? She has made calls to Virginia Telecommunications Industry Association, the Historical society and communicating with other librarians.? But so far there is only speculation as to a date, they are as frustrated as I am and curious.
I must say though, one speculation has become a delicate matter.? If it becomes fact, it would explain perfectly why I found it where I did.? And believe me I'm not going to be wanting to look up a relative and give it back.
If by chance Hunter you are able to locate any info via your family, please let me know.? Either way its gonna be a cool piece of history.
Keep up the grades at college, I'm sure you're family is proud of you.? My little one is up in the hills of Va. now getting her some
ed-ju-ma-ka-sun, and gosh how I miss her.
Well thank you Hunter, any help would be greatly appreciated.? The Librarian has been so helpful assisting in research.? She has made calls to Virginia Telecommunications Industry Association, the Historical society and communicating with other librarians.? But so far there is only speculation as to a date, they are as frustrated as I am and curious.
I must say though, one speculation has become a delicate matter.? If it becomes fact, it would explain perfectly why I found it where I did.? And believe me I'm not going to be wanting to look up a relative and give it back.
If by chance Hunter you are able to locate any info via your family, please let me know.? Either way its gonna be a cool piece of history.
Keep up the grades at college, I'm sure you're family is proud of you.? My little one is up in the hills of Va. now getting her some
ed-ju-ma-ka-sun, and gosh how I miss her.
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Really neat find!!! Love to hear from fellow MD'ers in Virginia...HH
Really neat find!!! Love to hear from fellow MD'ers in Virginia...HH
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This really an interesting string Charlene. Good look on the research.
This really an interesting string Charlene. Good look on the research.
lasttoknow (Tim)
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That's a pretty neat find. That one will keep you busy for awhile. Good luck on locating the owner or some kin folk.... Gotta love that history.....HH
That's a pretty neat find. That one will keep you busy for awhile. Good luck on locating the owner or some kin folk.... Gotta love that history.....HH
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there is a listing in Verona Virginia with the same name. 96 years old.
there is a listing in Verona Virginia with the same name. 96 years old.
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Ok the update on Patsy. But a little history is necessary on the area I found it in.
I was searching a parcel of land that was once (mid 1800's-1930's) called a Poor House Farm. Now, I was always told that it was where poor people lived before we had the welfare system. I knew it was riddled with graves.. how did I know...well for starters they were poor, when they died they put them in a pine box, no markers and buried them.
Well when I was 5yr. old, my father took a bull dozer to a tree, when it tobbled over, splinters of a coffin and parts of a skeleton rolled out of the ground.
Freaked me out as the skull came tumbling towards my mother and I. We called authorities at the time, they sent the remains off, it was the skeleton of a young woman, and they said she had probably died while living at the Poor Farm. Again around age 12, I was feeding up the animals, this one place on the ground had a dip in it, like a dried up mud hole. One day I stepped on it and it caved in I was in up to my chest and squalling for my father. It gave an entire new meaning to dancing on someone's grave. We knew right away it was a grave, he filled it in and that was that. We ran into them digging post holes etc., same scenerio each time, move over a little and fill it in.
Old folks didn't talk about delicate matters much and it wasn't until I was communicating with the historians that I learned most of the Poor House Farms were peopled by inmates. She speculated that the key tag I had found was more than likely a dogtag worn by an inmate. She also informed me that Franklin did not house female inmates, they were sent to other nearby counties. The number on the tag would have been used to call relatives in case the inmate died. This is why I have taken out Patsy's last name on the photo. Again it is still speculation.
What I do know, if this is the case, I surely don't want to find her relatives and go up to them and say "hey, I found your great grandma's dogtag when she was in prison, thought you might like to have it"![:-\](https://www.treasurenet.com/smilies/undecided.gif "Undecided :-\")
The rest of you guys find, rings, silver, gold, watches, toy cars, buckles, and braclets... and I find a long forgotten criminals dogtag.
P.S. No I did not need therapy as a child, :P
Ok the update on Patsy. But a little history is necessary on the area I found it in.
I was searching a parcel of land that was once (mid 1800's-1930's) called a Poor House Farm. Now, I was always told that it was where poor people lived before we had the welfare system. I knew it was riddled with graves.. how did I know...well for starters they were poor, when they died they put them in a pine box, no markers and buried them.
Well when I was 5yr. old, my father took a bull dozer to a tree, when it tobbled over, splinters of a coffin and parts of a skeleton rolled out of the ground.
Freaked me out as the skull came tumbling towards my mother and I. We called authorities at the time, they sent the remains off, it was the skeleton of a young woman, and they said she had probably died while living at the Poor Farm. Again around age 12, I was feeding up the animals, this one place on the ground had a dip in it, like a dried up mud hole. One day I stepped on it and it caved in I was in up to my chest and squalling for my father. It gave an entire new meaning to dancing on someone's grave. We knew right away it was a grave, he filled it in and that was that. We ran into them digging post holes etc., same scenerio each time, move over a little and fill it in.Old folks didn't talk about delicate matters much and it wasn't until I was communicating with the historians that I learned most of the Poor House Farms were peopled by inmates. She speculated that the key tag I had found was more than likely a dogtag worn by an inmate. She also informed me that Franklin did not house female inmates, they were sent to other nearby counties. The number on the tag would have been used to call relatives in case the inmate died. This is why I have taken out Patsy's last name on the photo. Again it is still speculation.
What I do know, if this is the case, I surely don't want to find her relatives and go up to them and say "hey, I found your great grandma's dogtag when she was in prison, thought you might like to have it"
The rest of you guys find, rings, silver, gold, watches, toy cars, buckles, and braclets... and I find a long forgotten criminals dogtag.
P.S. No I did not need therapy as a child, :P
lasttoknow (Tim)
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lol Gotta love history....
lol Gotta love history....
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I'll check it out Klick, thanks, sure hope she was just visiting if its her.
I'll check it out Klick, thanks, sure hope she was just visiting if its her.
lasttoknow (Tim)
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What a scary phone call. Good luck...lol
What a scary phone call. Good luck...lol
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Nice find Charlene and nice story. I found a silver tag with a hole in the top, about the size of a quarter, with a full name, DOB and death, but have yet to locate family member.
Nice find Charlene and nice story. I found a silver tag with a hole in the top, about the size of a quarter, with a full name, DOB and death, but have yet to locate family member.
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