How many faces?

Whatever you say, Bill. If you wanted to win, you did. L.O.L.

You want to know what it mean? It means, "I am looking at something". The eyes are closed and the meaning is "It is here". What is 'it'? Not going to say. Notice how the image is still identifiable from the back. The first image is from the outside of the canyon looking in. The second is looking outward. Notice how the inside is beaten and worn. Water rushing out during rainstorms has beaten it unmercifully. The outside only gets wet and doesn't take nearly the same abuse. This is what you should be looking for. Not sketchy vague rock outcrops.

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ThomasP. Here is the thread link http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,149002.1900.html.
Page 20. Not a single soul touched upon what I just wrote. Take it with salt.......
 

BIT:
That is an excellent example of a face and you say it is looking at something. OK, just one lead in a long series of leads OR it could be a gargoyle as such to ward off spooks. I mean, why such a large head in such a small defile? Not making fun of the situation, just musing I mean, wondering. Most of the figures we mark are not sketchy or vague, but that's a separate point.

What would you think this face represents?


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Guys, If I were look at this site and guess where the entrance is I would look right where that large skull is looking. that looks like a covered entrance to a mine. just carfully move those boulders. Its even shaped like a passage. just right of the skull. I think thats the ticket.
 

Shortstack said:
BIT:
That is an excellent example of a face...thanks... and you say it is looking at something...it is.... OK, just one lead in a long series of leads...speculation....I already explained it's purpose.... OR it could be a gargoyle as such to ward off spooks...speculation....I already explained it's purpose..... I mean, why such a large head in such a small defile?...something that large would not be as easily noticed from close range. The walls are approximately 8' apart and while watching for footing on the slimy rocks, one would not notice the work. This canyon sits perpendicularly to the main creek. Unless one is looking for the carving, luck is on the creator's side.... Not making fun of the situation, just musing...still can't let go.... I mean, wondering. Most of the figures we mark are not sketchy or vague,...are you trying to convince me or yourself?... but that's a separate point....that you can't let go...

What would you think this face represents? IMO? John, if it is real and, not in any particular direction. Additionally, John's hair is in a beehive....wait, or is that Marge Simpson?
...See highlights in quote above...
 

Oh I take life with a grain of salt. All the pictures that I have posted. I could have kept safe and sound on a ecard
and no one would have had the chance to see what I have seen. I post these pics so people can exercise thier
minds eye. I am blessed to live in a area that is covered in this stuff and am willing to share what I have come
across and documented. I am an optimist I do see things where there might not be something. Do I believe I
will find the lost treasure, Of course not, but then again, who knows.
If it weren't for positive thinkers we would not have this forum. And I sure am glad for everyone here. I like it
when people mark up my photos, They see things I don't. They put a different layer of knowledge on the subject. I have never found anything of treasure value. That puts me in the same league as most on this forum. I am a rookie. If someone has found something more power to them.
By the way I would rather watch my daugther swim 50 laps with her swim team than waste my time chasing dreams accross the desert. That is true treasure. If I mispelled something to bad. ThomasP
 

Sorry, BIT. This ain't John.


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hadji009 said:
r u serious????????

Yes. Dead serious. This is not MY photo. It was posted, along with many others, by a forum member who photographed many trail markers along a route he was exploring. He wrote that this "pointer" stone was photographed through a hoyo while standing up close to the hole and that that pointer stone was just on the other side. When I first saw the photo, those eyes popped out at me and I KNEW it was much more than a pointer rock.

BIT, I am not searching for credibility from you and you can keep your crickets. There are plenty of other good folks on this and other forums who do not look down their noses at other people's ideas and questions. Other folks who listen and then make up their own minds without slinging CRAP at other people with different ideas.
 

looks like a owl on his perch to me.most ancient aliens that are shown on TV all have helmits.and what do u suppose that is sitting on aliens head?
 

hadji009:
Don't believe everything you see on T.V. A lot of it is made up and are outright lies. This figure may or may not have a helmet. I choose to think he doesn't have a helmet, that's his head shape.
I didn't post this photo to high jack the thread; just to show how all faces are not the same no matter how one tries to interpret it AND not all figures we may find are of objects or people within our "comfort zone". This is a big reason the main stream scientific community makes fun of and ignores the artifacts proving this continent was home to many Ancients way before Columbus' navigator got lost.
 

ThomasP - good to see you back. Hope you are feeling better.

Utahhunter..that second circle from the left. Seen something similar but not a perfect match in New Mexico. It is facing..mmmm southwest generally speaking. Been thinking it is solstice related. It is rather large I would estimate...a few hundred feet across....out of place compared to surrounding terrain and it is on the rather sloped side of a mountain. It is not up high though, not on top of a mountain.

It does not make a complete circle and from what i can make out, there are inner partial concentric circles on the one I saw..made of up slabs and upright stones, boulders and seem to have spaces between some of them. Not a living structure or camp site. Reminds me of a large circular maze.

Based on its size and composition, and placement..well..solar observatory is my working theory. It would be quite an early hike to get there by dawn on a solstice, ...so...do not know for sure.

Did you happen to notice if your circle generally faces southwest?
 

In my earlier post, # 31, both of these pics were found using Google Earth.

Thanks for your help on these pics...

The top pic has at least nine shadow figures, a circle (100 ft across), a star (at least 100 ft across), a bear face, an arrow (100+ ft) pointing down at other symbols, two hearts pointed at each other (shadowed, cave), and at least twenty other sign/symbols. The top pic is in a box canyon and only visible from opposite side on top of cliff.

The bottom pic has at least eleven faces in it, the female/male faces marked by blue arrow are over 120 ft tall. This site is only visible from the top of the other side of the canyon, it too is in a box canyon shaped like a thumb. Just to the lower right of the female/male faces is what looks to be a face in a Mayan or possible Olmec style, it could be a skull done in a stylized manner as well.

In the area where these two pics were taken, I have found well over 100 other sites with similar symbols such as faces, hearts, skulls, skull & cross bones, letters, numbers, and circles (plus many more I won't go into here). I do not claim that these signs/symbols were from the ancients, Spanish, KGC, or some other group. Most of the symbols I have found such as the faces, hearts and circles are 100 ft across or bigger. Many of these symbols are at least 10,000 ft in elevation, on the side of a cliff at least 200 ft tall with a rock slide area below the cliff that is over 100+ ft high. Next summer I will go into the area and take close ups of the site(s) I feel need more scrutiny.

Some of the images, I do believe to be just flukes of nature, others are definitely not flukes of nature. SS and OD have seen a couple of the pics I am talking about, these pics are loaded with symbols. They have been able to help with leads and insights into the symbols, for this I am greatly appreciative.

I do not care if there is a treasure of gold/silver/jewels in the area. I am intrigued by the search and to where it will lead next, THAT is the true treasure. I have been able to narrow several of the symbols down as trail markers, but many are in areas that are not visible except from across a canyon and from on top of the cliff. Several of the ares have signs/symbols on both sides of the cliffs in the respective canyon.


Blind.In.Texas

As per your post in #36...

I am having to re-learn how to draw, after major injuries to my back/neck. I use colored circles to highlight things I see as a way to point them out to others. Since the name of this Forum Topic is: "How maw many faces?", it is quite expected, and not at all unreasonable, that other members would use some form of highlighting or circling of the things they see to point them out to others. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this, if you don't like it, then when you post a pic, state you do not want it highlighted in such a manner.

Please do not take the above statement as a form of disrespect, because it was not intended as such. I have followed a number of the posts you have made and I have found them to be very insightful and a learning experience. You have made me, at times, take a step back (in a manner of speaking) and reconsider what I am looking at, this has brought me to a completely different conclusion on several sites I have been looking at.

Your post just struck a raw nerve with me, call me sensitive if you will, that is fine; I can take the criticism (just let me take my pain meds and muscle relaxers first).


And a note to the negative posters.....

I am in no way an expert or as skilled in reading the signs and symbols, found in country, as others. I post these pics for the enjoyment of others, hoping they get as much enjoyment searching for things in the pics as I do. There is nothing wrong with seeing things that others may not be able to see, this does not mean that the signs & symbols are there, or are just figments of our imaginations. This just possibly means that you can not see things as we do, or you do not have an imagination, or you are so massively confused about your own pics/site(s) that all you have left is criticism of others.

If you don't want to help and you just want to criticize, then do not respond to posts and go somewhere else to throw your worthless two cents in. If on the other hand, you want to help, then do not say that a pic is fake, or that there are just rocks and nothing else. Just don't criticize others for trying to help, who knows, you might just earn some respect from other members and the public in general. My opinion is that you are just massively confused about things and the only option you feel you have is to criticize others.

OK, I will step off the soap box and hand the mic to someone else now.
 

uthunter said:
Blind.In.Texas

As per your post in #36...

I am having to re-learn how to draw, after major injuries to my back/neck. I use colored circles to highlight things I see as a way to point them out to others. Since the name of this Forum Topic is: "How maw many faces?", it is quite expected, and not at all unreasonable, that other members would use some form of highlighting or circling of the things they see to point them out to others. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this, if you don't like it, then when you post a pic, state you do not want it highlighted in such a manner.

Please do not take the above statement as a form of disrespect, because it was not intended as such. I have followed a number of the posts you have made and I have found them to be very insightful and a learning experience. You have made me, at times, take a step back (in a manner of speaking) and reconsider what I am looking at, this has brought me to a completely different conclusion on several sites I have been looking at.

Your post just struck a raw nerve with me, call me sensitive if you will, that is fine; I can take the criticism (just let me take my pain meds and muscle relaxers first).
I hope your wounds heal nicely and in a timely fashion. I have had serious right shoulder damage myself (at the hands of myself) and I know how traumatic it can be. I wish you well. I took no offense to your previous stand against my 'circle' comment. I appreciate the POLITENESS with which you adressed the issue. In actuality, my input was intended to be recieved as a direct question regarding the meanings of things within said circles. I realize the act of circling is, in itself, self-explanatory. The comment I made in reference, was not.

Thanks for lookin' at ma posts and I'm glad they helped. I try to be logical and reasonable. I also try to pass along anything I develope, knowledge-wise, from the field, as well as what I hear from others. More than anything though, I scour the web to learn from others.

Sensitive? Naw........didn't think it for a second. Get well........take care.
 

Blind... I am glad that no offense was taken.

I had my daughter, a fifteen yr old, start to outline things in the pics and it got way to confusing, since several of the signs/symbols overlapped. She tried different colors for the different signs/symbols, but they looked like a preschool age child scribbles.

I bought a light box and print my pics on the best quality photo paper I can get, making sure there are no markings on the reverse side. I then use 3M Brand Write-on Transparency Film (stock no. AF4300 - $36 for 100 sheet pack) to mark each color and each color gets a new sheet. I have found that this is an easy way to separate out the different layers and types of signs/symbols. If I mess up one layer then only the cheap plastic sheet is ruined with a few symbols. I can put several sheets on the pic and still see through them all just fine. Plus the light box really helps highlight the symbols.


I got hurt when I fell about thirty foot at work, a micro-burst wind gust blew me and the ladder off the side of a house (March, 2003). I was fixing a cable wire at the peak of the roof. At the time, I weighed 185 and my ladder weighed about 150. I fractured two vertebrae at T11/T12, damaged three more in my neck and four more in my lower back (I lost over 1 inch in height). I have nerve damage in both arms down through my hands, and both legs down through my feet. I am now able to walk unassisted about a block, but getting better at it. I had to relearn how to hold a pencil/pen, spoon, fork, still have issues at times cutting with a knife, and I have to type with two fingers. One good thing about it (Maybe?) I am diabetic and cannot feel when I prick my finger to test my blood. In July, 2004 my orthopedic doc told me I would never walk again; I have to use a cane to help me walk, but that is it (I am trying to get rid of the cane as well).

Maybe after two or three back surgeries (to stabilize things further) I will be able to go back to work, I am hoping at least. I am tired of this full time retirement (disability), sitting on my butt watching tv all day.
 

uthunter said:
I am diabetic and cannot feel when I prick my finger to test my blood.
With that sense of humor under the circumstances, not much should ever be able to take you down. I'll keep my story to myself in light of not being as serious as your's and the fact that it was my fault ;)

Peeps,
The letter 'B' can sometimes tell you that the king's quint is at the end of the trail. Try it if you like. I didn't find this in any book. I figured it out while working some signs in the field. It took me almost a year to realize the answer. Mostly because I was dedicating time to serveral symbols but, partially it is just plain sneaky.
 

It was entirely my own fault, I knew better than to work on ladders in the wind, but was so far behind from the winter damage, I figured I would be OK since the wind was not that strong yet that morning.

Earlier that winter in a nearby town, I spent the better part of an hour waiting for rescue one day in January, 2003. Had a cable tv trunk line split on me due to the cold, -20 deg f, and the high winds coming out of a canyon. I put my ladder up in mid-span, about halfway between two utility poles, and climbed up about twenty plus ft, belted myself onto the ladder, strand and cable then went to work splicing it back together. The wind really picked up and the ladder and I were bouncing off the ground by several feet, a couple of other spans were actually hitting the power lines. It scared the SH#T out of me and I have never called 911 so fast in my life. The rescue crews were all volunteers and had to leave their jobs, go get the ladder fire truck to get me off the ladder. The power company had to cut the power to that section of town as well. Later that day, the lead tech, for the company I worked for, came out in his bucket truck and could not get the split cable fixed due to the wind blowing him around as well.

The company I worked for, the local crew for the power company, and the residents in the town never let me live it down from that day on. Every time I had to go up a ladder in that town, someone would ask if I needed help getting down. Everyone in that town has a scanner, so they heard about it when it came over the radio and what was said between the rescue trucks. Talk about embarrassing!

You would think I would have learned my lesson the first time, but no, I had to go get hurt before I learned my lesson. And to think, I liked working outside in the cold, wind and storms. And working at heights didn't bother me, heights still don't. I just wish I could get back to work again, doing anything really. OK no being a Greeter at Walmart, I can't stand dealing with the public anymore, too many years doing retail.

Maybe we need to start a Topic on "the stupidest thing(s) I have done and nearly been killed doing it/them."
 

That's a cool story. You are lucky you didn't go home with fried eggs. I've been a fiber optic tech for ten years. I've done plenty of that aerial work. Getting ready to start another run in a couple of weeks.

Talking about stupid. One time, I climbed up a pole (abandoned) to get a sack full o' glass insulators. Now, I am a fairly strong and sure footed climber, and on the job I have never slipped. Only once and it was with a sack of those damn 16oz glass pieces. Had about 30 of them in the bag. Made my way down the pole to about 10' off the ground. Now, any lineman will tell you that you will never find a patch of briars/blackberries, or both, around any pole 'cept the one you aim to climb. About 15' off the ground my right boot strap went on a smoke break. That was not where I wanted to be right then. Anyhoo, try as I might, I could get my boot strap to come back to work and lend a hand. So, I tried to shimmy it with a gimp. No dice, I was loosing stamina in the left leg and fast. About 8' feet off the ground I made the call. I went through all that trouble for some cool pieces and I was their ride home......I let go of the pole, reached down and grabbed ahold, and then spent the rest of the week picking out blackberry thorns where ever I could reach them on the south side. It was that way or burn the pole......

Anyone want a few insulators? I have about 900 of them :icon_thumleft:
 

Well, dang BIT. You ARE human. Who'd a thunk it? :icon_scratch:
 

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