How About A Posting For Covid Vaccines

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The days of "the old shot record" which was initiated during basic training. I guess I cud drag it out and add my covid shots to it. With the mandatory annual booster shots that was required in a few years my shot record became several pages thick. Then there was "small pox" 1/2 inch circle of inflamed skin to cure into its protective shield. Yep, its been a few years since I even thought of those days. Every trip overseas required yet another series of punchers. yea, I do remember.
 

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bowwinkles said:
The days of "the old shot record" which was initiated during basic training. I guess I cud drag it out and add my covid shots to it. With the mandatory annual booster shots that was required in a few years my shot record became several pages thick. Then there was "small pox" 1/2 inch circle of inflamed skin to cure into its protective shield. Yep, its been a few years since I even thought of those days. Every trip overseas required yet another series of punchers. yea, I do remember.
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I got shots in basic training, then before both deployments to Okinawa, you had 2 choices, get the shots or a court marshal for refusing a direct order.
 

Treasure_Hunter said:
I got shots in basic training, then before both deployments to Okinawa, you had 2 choices, get the shots or a court marshal for refusing a direct order.
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When I was a kid if someone in the house got strep throat, then everybody
in the house had to get penicillin shots. The nurse would bring out a tray
with a shot on it big enough for a horse, and a needle that was about the
size of a 16 penny nail..

Me?............. hawkeye.gif

But, then I had to face Mom's ire....given a choice, I'd rather have taken the
court martial than deal with her!!
 

GoDeep said:
Anybody else here in the military? Remember how when you first went to basic they gave you shots? I never asked what was in them and probably should have. Same on deployments, they'd sometimes give a shot, "for your own good" of course.....
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Air gun shots in both arms. Onboard, on deployment, shots were given on payday. No shot, no pay. Maybe we could try that.
 

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A doctor in Alabama pleaded for people to get vaccinated against COVID-19 as she shared grim accounts of young, healthy and unvaccinated people dying of the disease.

The sobering message from Dr. Brytney Cobia posted Sunday on Facebook has been liked and shared thousands of times.

“One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late,” she said of her COVID-19 patients.

“A few days later when I call time of death, I hug their family members and I tell them the best way to honor their loved one is to go get vaccinated and encourage everyone they know to do the same.

“They cry. And they tell me they didn’t know. They thought it was a hoax. They thought it was political. They thought because they had a certain blood type or a certain skin color they wouldn’t get as sick. They thought it was ‘just the flu’.”

But they were wrong, she said, and they can’t go back.

“So they thank me and they go get the vaccine. And I go back to my office, write their death note, and say a small prayer that this loss will save more lives,” she wrote.
https://news.yahoo.com/too-doctor-sa...014317137.html
 

Which leads to another question,should a private hospital have to admit a patient who,s 100 lbs. overweight and has had a heart attack due to poor diet and exercise choices?
 

Which leads to another question, could we actually put a little more trust in the literally hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of health professionals the world over, testifying to what they have personally witnessed, on the ground, in their own hospitals?

Of course we can't trust them, because they all secretly arranged a time, got together online and through translators, all debated the merits for a few hours and unanimously agreed, we'll deceive the world about covid so we can get some overtime pay! Not stopping to think perhaps we are the ones all online being deceived by politicians, agitators, friends, propaganda and self serving "news" outlets.
 

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crashbandicoot said:
Which leads to another question,should a private hospital have to admit a patient who,s 100 lbs. overweight and has had a heart attack due to poor diet and exercise choices?
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Not everyone who is overweight has reached that weight by common assumptions about diet and exercise. There are medical reasons that can cause such conditions. My son is a firefighter/EMT at one of the busiest fire departments in the country and he says the toughest job is trying to get someone 500 - 800 pounds out of an apartment and down a flight of stairs and outside for the first time in decades, for a trip to the hospital. At that size, exercise is not possible and multiple medical issues are involved. Would you leave such a person in a burning building?

Refusing a simple, safe life saving shot is a very different story.

The anti-science propaganda is disturbing to see in a country that is supposed to be advanced.
 

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I,m not advocating for refusing the vaccine,my point was meant to be how asinine it is to refuse treatment to any one who needs it regardless of their choices.True,some folks have issues that cause them to be obese,but the majority are that way due to dietary choices.To put it another way,if a man buys a 800 horsepower Dodge Charger and is involved in a high speed accident,should he be refused treatment because he made a bad decision?That,s not the way we should do it.Perhaps my choice of analogies was a poor one,my apologies.
 

Which leads to another question,should a private hospital have to admit a patient who,s 100 lbs. overweight and has had a heart attack due to poor diet and exercise choices?
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Hospitals cannot refuse to treat someone for a serious medical issue, even if they don't have health insurance. It's the law, plus a hospital would get their butts sued off if someone who was refused treatment died later on. Doesn't matter if you're 100 pounds overweight, a heavy smoker, drug addict or just totaled your car in a drunken stupor. Hospitals cannot put profits over saving lives, ever.
 

This disease, whatever the hell it is ( natural or otherwise ) has morphed into a powerful confrontation between two different FAITHS. Thus ends any rational discussion. I think we're starting to butt up against the wall. Those that wanted to be vaccinated, have been. Now we're just giving shots to those who want it, but we, the public, must go out of our way in resources and personnel to to give it to them. Challenged citizens.

Referencing the original theme, my wife and I got both doses of Moderna. My wife had a sore arm, and felt flushed for 24 hours, and the same for me, on the first dose. The second, I had little reaction, hot and cold for half a day, my wife felt weird for a day. I was relieved to have gotten it, though we did have to drive an 80 mile round trip.

I insist ( I'm not in a position to insist anything, but it makes a point, I can still see my Mom, arms crossed, giving me the evil eye, right after she "insisted" I do something ) anti-vaccers re-examine the basis of their faith. I'm giving you the evil eye, arms crossed. Those that haven't pursued it, for whatever reason, go get the shot, ASAP. People are still dying.

IMHO.
 

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Kray Gelder said:
This disease, whatever the hell it is ( natural or otherwise ) has morphed into a powerful confrontation between two different FAITHS. Thus ends any rational discussion. I think we're starting to butt up against the wall. Those that wanted to be vaccinated, have been. Now we're just giving shots to those who want it, but we, the public, must go out of our way in resources and personnel to to give it to them. Challenged citizens.

Referencing the original theme, my wife and I got both doses of Moderna. My wife had a sore arm, and felt flushed for 24 hours, and the same for me, on the first dose. The second, I had little reaction, hot and cold for half a day, my wife felt weird for a day. I was relieved to have gotten it, though we did have to drive an 80 mile round trip.

I insist ( I'm not in a position to insist anything, but it makes a point, I can still see my Mom, arms crossed, giving me the evil eye, right after she "insisted" I do something ) anti-vaccers re-examine the basis of their faith. I'm giving you the evil eye, arms crossed. Those that haven't pursued it, for whatever reason, go get the shot, ASAP. People are still dying.

IMHO.
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They're slowly coming around the past few weeks, you can see it in the change in tune with some in the media. It finally dawned on many people it's not a conspiracy theory, that it's actually real, that COVID deaths are now occurring almost exclusively in the unvaccinated and that if it even kills off a half percent of them, it'll cost them multiple elections as it's estimated 10 percent of elections nationwide (local, state and national) are often within a half a percent. (mods, not discussing politics, just pointing out the unintended effect of covid on elections, not discussing elections themselves).
 

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The virus is doing what viruses and microbes in general do - they evolve to survive. So far, we have been lucky that the variants are not resistant to at least the most common vaccines. But is it only a matter of time before a mutant variant arrives that IS resistant to vaccines?

Early on in one of these threads, I wrote that it was a race to vaccinate enough people to outrun the virus' capacity to evolve via quickly replicating mutations. At the time, I was frustrated by the slow roll-out of the vaccines. Now the issue is not the availability of the vaccine, but rather this absurd vaccine hesitancy. Those ignorant people are doing worse than just endangering themselves - they are keeping the virus reservoir large and actively evolving.

I would prefer to see some incentives to get the "hesitant" to become vaccinated, but at some point, will that be sufficient? It seems insane to me and I know it is incredibly frustrating to medical professionals and virologists that we are allowing the ignorant to put our best & brightest at risk by keeping the virus going.

To the original thread intent, my wife and I both had the Pfizer shots when it was our turn by age (no cutting in line...). I had no side affects at all, and she had some minor soreness for a day. And we are so grateful to have had the vaccine available and to the people who developed and administered it.
 

FreeBirdTim said:
Hospitals cannot refuse to treat someone for a serious medical issue, even if they don't have health insurance. It's the law, plus a hospital would get their butts sued off if someone who was refused treatment died later on. Doesn't matter if you're 100 pounds overweight, a heavy smoker, drug addict or just totaled your car in a drunken stupor. Hospitals cannot put profits over saving lives, ever.
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I know this,my question was sarcasm in response to the gentleman who posed the question should a hospital admit someone who had refused the vaccine.It was a rhetorical question.As I,ve said I,m not a anti vaxxer,I,ve had my shots,come on,we,re all human beings here.This thing is turning us into something I don,t want to be.Hope I,ve clarified my response.
 

No vaccination then your days are numbered.
Have a great day!
 

I know a great incentive for anti-vaxxers. Start bussing them all to the gas chambers!
 

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