Holy Cow....I am still shakin....what did I find?

[LittleJohn]

Holy Cow....I am still shakin'....what did I find?

I just got home and ran these two coins under some water to get most of the dirt off. One of these is what I believe they call a "copper" from the best I can tell it may possibly say 1775 on it....but cant make 100% sure

The other one appears to have some type of crest on it, and then figures and objects ....is this an old hammered silver coin?

Anybody?

Can I clean the copper so I can see it better or would that devalue it? I put a nasty scratch on the copper when it was recovered...

Thanks for your help.

LittleJohn

 

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[Mackaydon]

Re: Holy Cow....I am still shakin'....what did I find?

Looks like a cob coin from the Potosi mint in Peru (initial 'P' left of crest).
It's weight in grams will help ID its denomination:
About 27 grams for an 8 reales, then halve that for a 4 reales, etc.
Don.....

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Holy Cow....I am still shakin'....what did I find?

Looks like a cob coin from the Potosi mint in Peru (initial 'P' left of crest).
It's weight in grams will help ID its denomination:
About 27 grams for an 8 reales, then halve that for a 4 reales, etc.
Don.....

apart from it looks like a copy

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Holy Cow....I am still shakin'....what did I find?

I just got home and ran these two coins under some water to get most of the dirt off. One of these is what I believe they call a "copper" from the best I can tell it may possibly say 1775 on it....but cant make 100% sure

The other one appears to have some type of crest on it, and then figures and objects ....is this an old hammered silver coin?

Anybody?

Can I clean the copper so I can see it better or would that devalue it? I put a nasty scratch on the copper when it was recovered...

Thanks for your help.

LittleJohn

hot peroxide bath will help but it has little value so don't worry

 

[LittleJohn]

Re: Holy Cow....I am still shakin'....what did I find?

It looks exactly like a 1654 piece of eight I found a picture of one on kellyco's website and everything that I can see is an identical match

 

[Mackaydon]

Re: Holy Cow....I am still shakin'....what did I find?

Little John:
If you're not referring to this coin (http://www.kellycodetectors.com/accessories/coinsjewelry2.htm) please post the URL showing the coin you are referring to. Thanks.
Don.......

 

[LittleJohn]

Re: Holy Cow....I am still shakin'....what did I find?

I found both coins at the edge of a farm field about 6 feet apart. South Central Pennsylvania.

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Holy Cow....I am still shakin'....what did I find?

It looks exactly like a 1654 piece of eight I found a picture of one on kellyco's website and everything that I can see is an identical match

fingers crossed, it might just be the picture but looks a bit suspect. Hopefully it is the real deal as an '8' is hard to come by, so starting your spanish silver collection with that one is a real winner

BCH - has a database of copies/fakes & will be able to give a much better opinion on this potentially amazing find

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Holy Cow....I am still shakin'....what did I find?

I found both coins at the edge of a farm field about 6 feet apart. South Central Pennsylvania.

Forgot the Copper is a British Geo III Halfpenny, many of these were counterfeited during the 18th century which is what this might be. We need a weight?

 

[LittleJohn]

Re: Holy Cow....I am still shakin'....what did I find?

Here is the picture i was referring to

It may well be a copy, heck I dont know....I believe the copper is legit and I am going to try and clean it up so I can get some better identification on it.

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Holy Cow....I am still shakin'....what did I find?

Here is the picture i was referring to

It may well be a copy, heck I dont know....I believe the copper is legit and I am going to try and clean it up so I can get some better identification on it.

when BCH gets on line your find out for sure.

I IDed the copper above, although we need a weight & picture after cleaning.

 

[LittleJohn]

Re: Holy Cow....I am still shakin'....what did I find?

Ok I will get a weight as soon as I get it cleaned. I have it soaking in olive oil right now. These are my first "old" finds, actually the first time I have hunted outside of some kind of park. I sure like the Tesoro Tejon!!!

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Holy Cow....I am still shakin'....what did I find?

Ok I will get a weight as soon as I get it cleaned. I have it soaking in olive oil right now. These are my first "old" finds, actually the first time I have hunted outside of some kind of park. I sure like the Tesoro Tejon!!!

If Regal it should look like this.
http://www.coinarchives.com/8e7ddcf6558c964a34c91e20ab8b80b9/img/stacks/stacks_jan10/image00800.jpg

Odds are its a contemporary counterfiet, either way its part of your history & over 200 years old.

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: Holy Cow....I am still shakin'....what did I find?

Looks like a cob coin from the Potosi mint in Peru (initial 'P' left of crest).
It's weight in grams will help ID its denomination:
About 27 grams for an 8 reales, then halve that for a 4 reales, etc.
Don.....

apart from it looks like a copy

Agree, 2nd picture has me suspect. I would feel better about it if it was found with all old finds.

 

[LittleJohn]

Re: Holy Cow....I am still shakin'....what did I find?

does the piece of eight have any value?

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: Holy Cow....I am still shakin'....what did I find?

does the piece of eight have any value?

If real, more to you in that condition.

 

[LittleJohn]

Re: Holy Cow....I am still shakin'....what did I find?

6.091 grams is the weight of the copper

Still unable to get any good identfication marks

I will put this under the microscope on monday.

LittleJohn

 

[LittleJohn]

Re: Holy Cow....I am still shakin'....what did I find?

5.77 grams on the piece of eight.....

 

[Mackaydon]

Re: Holy Cow....I am still shakin'....what did I find?

Catfish:
Sorry dude, if you check your history Potosi was in Peru at the time this coin was minted.

 

[Mackaydon]

Re: Holy Cow....I am still shakin'....what did I find?

The mintmark P meaning either Potosi (from at least 1652) or Peru, since Potosi was part of the viceroyalty of Peru. (Sedwick page 46; 3rd edition).
During most of the Spanish colonial period, this territory was called Upper Peru or Charcas and was under the administration of the Viceroyalty of Peru, which included most of Spain's South American colonies. After declaring independence in 1809, 16 years of war followed before the establishment of the Republic, named for Simón Bolívar, on August 6, 1825. (Wikipedia).