Historic find?

[b3y0nd3r]

I am not going to say anything about this until someone with more knowledge than I can recognize it however, I believe it is truly a historic find!

 

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[ToddsPoint]

Why don't you clean it up, roll some ink on it and press it on some paper. it would make a good comparison to the coin. Gary

 

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[Bramblefind]

Neat find! The James A. Beaver medal is actually held at the Senator John Heinz History Center (see link). Maybe you could contact them about your piece?

These medals were engraved after they were made - that's why some are blank. They all started off blank and then were individually engraved. Your item is very interesting but IMO it is not the actual medal.

It was based on the actual medal and maybe commissioned by James A. Beaver for use in campaign promotion - just a guess - since he was in politics. Or for something else.. I hope it can be solved.

Can you give any detail as to where you found it?

Krasik Collection of Pennsylvania & Presidential Political Memorabilia | Digital Collection

 

[Bramblefind]

The James A. Beaver medal sold at auction in 1989 (that may be where the Heinz History Center obtained it ). Here's the description from the catalog which is on the Newman Portal.

https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/auctionlots?AucCoId=511514&AuctionId=511899&page=33

 

[A2coins]

great find

 

[gunsil]

I am not wishing anything. These commemorative medals were not made by the government. These were hand made by locals. There were blank molds and more personalized ones. The size of this mold is the same size as the medal itself much larger than a business card. I don't mind your guess on what it is, but I don't think you are correct.

Molds are used for casting items, dies are used for making (stamping out) most coins, medals and tokens, these terms (molds and dies) are not interchangeable. Items cast in molds do not have the high degree of detail that those stamped from dies do. For instance coins are die struck not molded. These were not made from many individual molds by "locals". All these medals were die struck from one die at a factory set up for die cutting (die making) and stamping. Die struck items are not considered hand made items and you can see from Bramble's post that the ones with names on them were indeed hand engraved with the names AFTER the medals had been struck. Business cards or CDVs (Carte d'Viste) from the 1800s were MUCH larger than today's business cards and your block may well have been used for such, but your printing block could well have been used on other campaign paper items. It may have been used for newspaper ads for his campaign. 'Nuff said!!

 

[b3y0nd3r]

Molds are used for casting items, dies are used for making (stamping out) most coins, medals and tokens, these terms (molds and dies) are not interchangeable. Items cast in molds do not have the high degree of detail that those stamped from dies do. For instance coins are die struck not molded. These were not made from many individual molds by "locals". All these medals were die struck from one die at a factory set up for die cutting (die making) and stamping. Die struck items are not considered hand made items and you can see from Bramble's post that the ones with names on them were indeed hand engraved with the names AFTER the medals had been struck. Business cards or CDVs (Carte d'Viste) from the 1800s were MUCH larger than today's business cards and your block may well have been used for such, but your printing block could well have been used on other campaign paper items. It may have been used for newspaper ads for his campaign. 'Nuff said!!

I guess either you are not reading what I am posting or you don't understand. So just drop it and please stop harassing me.