Hesitations when buying lately.

I recently got stuck with some Indiana Carnival glass. I don't even like carnival glass. But it was a nice pond lily pattern. I can tell the difference on the base colors but I rarely pay attention. I guess I had better start.

I have this vision that Jimmy Buffet fans are driving the demand for the Parrot pattern. A few days ago I picked up the green depression hazel atlas candy dish at the thrift store. I could feel this ladies eyes on me hoping I would put it down. I thought this is missing the lid. I put it down and you would have thought I put down a hundred dollar bill. Which I guess is getting back to what this topic is about. Same thing happened again when I put down a green depression plate with a chip on the edge. When it happened the second time I thought maybe I was the one missing something. But competition is pretty fierce at the thrift store here. I like some of the depression glass but I have to admit I never bother putting the black light on it. Hardly ever see the jadite here. The custard I have seen was never in a nice piece. more on the trinket end. I like the cobalt blue depression stuff but doesn't command much respect on ebay. I keep some nice Blenko in my collection just because I like it. I have only ever stumbled on one piece of cased bohemian and cut around here. I felt a little light headed when I saw it. I kept it because its my only one. I agree with the vaseline glass theory entirely. My theory actually includes the cut crystal as well because the quality stuff is not in current production anymore. And if you really appreciate glass it does have a different shine to it. Thanks for the tips I did learn a few good points there.

Your welcome! And I highly doubt Jimmy Buffet people have any influence on the Parrot pattern, it's just rare thus demands a premium especially certain pieces! You did good not buying the chipped or damaged pieces unless it's very very minor & a very rare piece. You need a pocket black light / UV-A light because that's the only way to tell for 100% sure if glass contains uranium as most green depression glass does, pieces from like 1941 & on will not glow but look like depression glass tho it's really not.

here are pix of green depression pieces under blacklight & a piece of Fostoria Heirloom vaseline opalescent under normal light & then black light.
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One of my great bohemian ruby red cut to clear sets (paid either $20 or $25 for all 7 pieces of it). Missing the topper tho but I will find a suitable replacement sometime! The glass tray I added later & is not cut to clear.
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The Fostoria bowl is beautiful under the blacklight. Still looks like a very modern piece. Your pictures make me want to locate my blacklight. Now I don't know what people would think of me once I start caring the pocket blacklight. Here are a couple of my rare finds for a couple bucks. I'm sure they are not worth a forture but I like them.
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That is a really great bohemian set. Especially to have it all. That's an unusual cut as well. I know the curves take more skill that the straight cuts. Shouldn't be too hard to get a stopper. That was a true deal. I once saw a similar set in a window at an antique store in NYC with a price so high I wasn't sure if they were joking or looking to retire. I didn't actual go in the store though.
 

The Fostoria bowl is beautiful under the blacklight. Still looks like a very modern piece. Your pictures make me want to locate my blacklight. Now I don't know what people would think of me once I start caring the pocket blacklight. Here are a couple of my rare finds for a couple bucks. I'm sure they are not worth a forture but I like them.
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That is a really great bohemian set. Especially to have it all. That's an unusual cut as well. I know the curves take more skill that the straight cuts. Shouldn't be too hard to get a stopper. That was a true deal. I once saw a similar set in a window at an antique store in NYC with a price so high I wasn't sure if they were joking or looking to retire. I didn't actual go in the store though.

Your cut to clear vase is pretty nice! lots of cut areas to let a lot of light thru! Looks good like that in the window. My Fostoria piece is modern (well 60's) but I have a soft spot for "topaz" Heirloom pieces by Fostoria & they are loaded with uranium thus glow very well. I just had that particular pic on my computer already. The old stuff glows just as much or more. The UV/Blacklight flashlight thing I carry is small like keychain size with a single LED bulb & it works great.

I cant make out what the clear or frosted & amber glass thing is. A lidded candy dish?
 

I guess it does look pretty good with the snow we had today behind it. Your cut piece is much better and more unusual.

I didn't know the led worked the same as a blacklight. I'll give it a try. The second one is Hobbs & Brockunier they went out of business around 1890. Making the most astounding thing about it the lack of chips and scratches considering it bounced out of a shopping cart at a salvation army. Its a lidded candy dish. Although I see the term candy dish used for just about anything people don't know how to describe. Supposedly they made blown glass but I've never seen any. It's one of those pieces I just like. Keep an eye out for it they made mostly pressed dishware. I'm definatly going to research my fosteria patterns a little more now.


Your cut to clear vase is pretty nice! lots of cut areas to let a lot of light thru! Looks good like that in the window. My Fostoria piece is modern (well 60's) but I have a soft spot for "topaz" Heirloom pieces by Fostoria & they are loaded with uranium thus glow very well. I just had that particular pic on my computer already. The old stuff glows just as much or more. The UV/Blacklight flashlight thing I carry is small like keychain size with a single LED bulb & it works great.

I cant make out what the clear or frosted & amber glass thing is. A lidded candy dish?
 

I guess it does look pretty good with the snow we had today behind it. Your cut piece is much better and more unusual.

I didn't know the led worked the same as a blacklight. I'll give it a try. The second one is Hobbs & Brockunier they went out of business around 1890. Making the most astounding thing about it the lack of chips and scratches considering it bounced out of a shopping cart at a salvation army. Its a lidded candy dish. Although I see the term candy dish used for just about anything people don't know how to describe. Supposedly they made blown glass but I've never seen any. It's one of those pieces I just like. Keep an eye out for it they made mostly pressed dishware. I'm definatly going to research my fosteria patterns a little more now.

Does the amber top part of the lid glow in blacklight?

My cut to clear set nobody was seriously interested in. Most sets sell for $45-$50 minimum, some more "elegant" but with more of a "normal" or typical cut pattern bring $75 to $100 & this set froze at like $15 or $17.50 & I ended up paying $25 I believe (no more).. I couldn't believe it! Its completely damage free, every piece! I thought the cuts were very unusual & nice, it's very well done for sure.

I own a few Hobbs pieces, all Victorian vaseline pieces! & I'm pretty sure at least one of them is mold blown & has a pontail, the others are pressed. Their packed up in boxes who knows where right now.

NOT any LED will work mine is a UV-A LED light got it on eBay for like $3 shipped & it even works in very bright light. Keep it on a retractable chain clip along with a small soft measuring tape. DSC02724.webp

The Fosteria Heirloom patterns are cool & comes in several colors but I only get the topaz ones (which are vaseline really). Many shapes & sizes, very thick, heavy pieces, high quality free form type art glass to say the least, no two are exactly identical! Great opalescence in their pieces as well! It's like much higher quality Viking glass with the same molten type looks. Not a lot of Heirloom pieces do I find at auctions & eBay isn't over run with them either. Also some colors don't sell very well.

I dropped a drinking glass (an old Burger Chef wildlife series glass) it fell & I kicked it at the same time, it went 20 ft across the parking lot on blacktop bouncing to a stop & had NO damage what so ever... I was like how in the world! Sometimes it happens, crazy!
 

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My cut to clear set nobody was seriously interested in. Most sets sell for $45-$50 minimum, some more "elegant" but with more of a "normal" or typical cut pattern bring $75 to $100 & this set froze at like $15 or $17.50 & I ended up paying $25 I believe (no more).. I couldn't believe it! Its completely damage free, every piece! I thought the cuts were very unusual & nice, it's very well done for sure.

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I wish we had prices like that around here. These auctions you go to are starting to sound mysterious to me.

I will tell you that I know how to grind and polish glass flat. I have been shown and fooled around on a cutting wheel before. What I have been told by someone in there 90s is that cutting glass is akin to smoking. It probably wont be what kills you but he hand known some glassworkers who had problems from it and some who did it their entire life with no problems. Bottom line is breathing particulate glass is bad. I will attempt to explain why your pattern is unusual. Today they draw the lines on for the pattern with a metallic maker. I have no idea what they use to use. Then you grind away the line with basically a vertically mounted tile saw. The come in different diameters depending on the size of the piece. That is for the fine lines. That part is not too hard on a flat piece following a straight line. Like a serving tray. Then there are other wheels where it comes up to a higher polish. I think the old timers finished it on a horsehair wheel. Usually you just see the dots cut with the grinding wheel. Its much wider curved wheel. Like the lapidary gem people use. The reason yours is unusual is because they were follow a curved line on a curved part of the glass. Actually its pretty much showing off. Usually the curves are only seen on the flat items like serving trays. The people who do it, can do it very quickly like its nothing but spacial its a very difficult cut. I hope that makes sense.
 

My cut to clear set nobody was seriously interested in. Most sets sell for $45-$50 minimum, some more "elegant" but with more of a "normal" or typical cut pattern bring $75 to $100 & this set froze at like $15 or $17.50 & I ended up paying $25 I believe (no more).. I couldn't believe it! Its completely damage free, every piece! I thought the cuts were very unusual & nice, it's very well done for sure.

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I wish we had prices like that around here. These auctions you go to are starting to sound mysterious to me.

I will tell you that I know how to grind and polish glass flat. I have been shown and fooled around on a cutting wheel before. What I have been told by someone in there 90s is that cutting glass is akin to smoking. It probably wont be what kills you but he hand known some glassworkers who had problems from it and some who did it their entire life with no problems. Bottom line is breathing particulate glass is bad. I will attempt to explain why your pattern is unusual. Today they draw the lines on for the pattern with a metallic maker. I have no idea what they use to use. Then you grind away the line with basically a vertically mounted tile saw. The come in different diameters depending on the size of the piece. That is for the fine lines. That part is not too hard on a flat piece following a straight line. Like a serving tray. Then there are other wheels where it comes up to a higher polish. I think the old timers finished it on a horsehair wheel. Usually you just see the dots cut with the grinding wheel. Its much wider curved wheel. Like the lapidary gem people use. The reason yours is unusual is because they were follow a curved line on a curved part of the glass. Actually its pretty much showing off. Usually the curves are only seen on the flat items like serving trays. The people who do it, can do it very quickly like its nothing but spacial its a very difficult cut. I hope that makes sense.

Fascinating info my friend! Would like to know even more especially on the polishing end! Any glass cutter who ever cut uranium glass probably died as a result because glass dust alone is bad enough but then throw in uranium with it & then breathing any in it's thyroid cancer basically guaranteed! And there are cut to clear vaseline pieces (very expensive stuff). I believe most Pairpoint vaseline glass is cut as well, it's crystal vaseline (leaded).

The auction I go to is the best within 175 miles. People come from as far away as Louisville, Cincinnati & up near Chicago every single week for this auction in Indy. A guy just left here a few weeks ago from Texas, he spent a month up here going to many auctions but this particular auction is why he makes the trip. He says auctions where he is at the same stuff would bring triple what it does here. He & his partner left with 2 semi trucks full. He makes the trip every year in October to mid or late November depending on our weather & buys enough to last for almost the whole year for his shops in Texas. He's a really nice friendly guy!

It's been bad the past 3 weeks now at this auction, the worst I've seen it in 2.5 years. Tho for example even when it's bad I get deals like this.. I bought a pallet today with 2 large Infinity reference 2000.6 tower speakers & an M & K (Miller & Kreisel) 12" subwoofer along with a box of stuff not worth but about $5 or $10 at most & all for just $35. Choices were low & prices were high today but not on this pallet, I got a down right steal (normally would have brought $100 easy)! I'll get $250 minimum just for all 3 speakers on CL real easy. But then in the main room a 1940's Fada bakelite or catalin radio that you could have got on eBay for $400 or less in this condition sold for $500. Some stuff sells beyond eBay prices & some stuff they give away. It's all about whose there that day & what their into. About 800 people attend this auction. It's in 5 different buildings (main room, pallet room, furniture building (which is almost 10K sq Ft alone), a specialty building & a tool building + they sell vehicles outside at noon too. It's a mad house at times!
 

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I never thought about the cutting uranium glass. But it does present kind of a revelation. I had heard that the people who use to work on uranium glass died pretty young. But they say radiation testing on those pieces is only slightly higher than background. So it was always kind of a mystery to me why they died so young. It could have been a total myth. I have a pair of candlesticks that are vaseline and cut. I have no idea who made them got them at an auction. I have seen a formula for vaseline glass and I know it contained depleted uranium. Not sure this was always the case. All glass formulas that I've seen contain some heavy metals.

For the cutting crystal a lathe has a beveled diamond coated cutting wheel fed by a constant drip of water. Some wheels are natural stone. It keeps down the dust but you still go home with glass dust all over you. Keeping the pressure the same and the cuts the same depth gets hard on your upper body. The polish comes from pumice on a horsehair wheel or felt wheel.

I have a large flat lapidary wheel. The glass is ground much like sanding wood. Mostly you run through Silicon carbide grits from largest to finest. The grits are dripped onto the lapidary wheel. Everyone has small variations but 80, 220, 400, 600, Pumice, Cerium oxide. Is a full polish. Many people stop before the two last steps as they are messy and more expensive. You can also use industrial graded diamonds for the grinding. You can also do it by hand if you are very patient. If you are ever on the fence about the quality of a piece the lack of a full polish on the bottom not matching the rest of the piece is an indicator that someone skipped the last two steps. Usually ruling it out as a masterpiece.

Two semi trucks full the guy must be doing something right. That auction sounds like you are getting some steals. But you must have to stay on your toes with all that going on. I always try to be friendly but sometimes when you are hunting for similar items it gets a little harder to stay friendly. Its hard to believe they can have such a steady supply of items coming in like that. I noticed my ebay auctions with stereo equipment get the most views lately.

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