Has anyone else dug one of these? What are they?

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Hello All,

When I dig one of an item that I can't ID, I search for the ID...but some items are tough as you know. When I dig multiple examples of something, or one of my buddies does, then I start thinking that it should be possible to get an ID (like the scythe handle ferrules I posted here several years back). Well, here we go again. The two pieces in the first five photos came from a late 1700s/early 1800s site in Kentucky where Hill Billy dug his Nova Constellatio Copper in 2010.

The pieces are thick either rolled or stamped brass, and they both come to a point on the end, which was curled up. I thought at the time that someone might have done this when they tossed the piece away, much like wadding up a piece of paper before throwing it in the trash can... I didn't think about the fact that the brass is not flimsy and could not have been rolled up on the end like that by hand without great effort.

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From KY1.jpg

There is a riveted attachment, with a flower-like, bowl-shaped top piece on the second piece. This may be a big clue to identifying it.

From KY2.jpg

From KY3.jpg

From KY4.jpg

Well, day before yesterday in Louisiana, Shane dug a piece that reminded me of the pieces from two years ago that I had dug. When I fished them out of the brass bin, they were identical in design. The piece was broken in the same spot as the longer piece I had dug (photos 1 and 2 in this post; broken at a hole in the piece; compare this with the last photo in the post). The end of Shane's piece was likewise curled up.

Whatever this piece was, the curl was important, and had something to do with the use, or a decorative effect.

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LA end.jpg

Has anyone else ever dug a piece like this? Any ideas about what it is?

Best Wishes,


Buckles
 

Mike in Berks said:
BuckleBoy i found a match to your 1st photo. No age but it says antique.
Bracket to a hanging lamp. You might wanna check it out.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/antique-han...568?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c253fc78
I agree solved and a fantastic ID. :notworthy: Did I miss the daisy like cup? The seller also has a similar listing different design. http://www.ebay.com/itm/antique-han...111?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c2540a4f
 

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bigcypresshunter said:
Mike in Berks said:
BuckleBoy i found a match to your 1st photo. No age but it says antique.
Bracket to a hanging lamp. You might wanna check it out.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/antique-han...568?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c253fc78
I agree solved and a fantastic ID. :notworthy: Did I miss the daisy like cup? The seller also has a similar listing different design. http://www.ebay.com/itm/antique-han...111?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c2540a4f

I didn't see the daisy cup either, but it might have been the place where two pieces were joined. Upon closer inspection, the brass between the rivet head and the brass strip is the same thickness as the brass strip, so I think that is a piece that was sheared off. In other words, a decorative rivet.

I am thrilled that this is solved!

Thanks to EVERYONE!
 

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Ah again, the power of Tnet :notworthy: Couldn't agree more on the I.D I am tempted to order the item from eBay ;D Cheers and thanks everyone for the input! Shane
 

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Awesome find Mike!!!Kind of went back to what our faithful CC Hunter said!!!
 

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Thanks ! I'm really glad i could help ....... for once :laughing7:

Found this in my 1895 Montgomery Ward catalog before i looked on feebay.
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good luck diggin Mike
 

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Another mystery laid to rest. Excellent work Mike! Not to knock the site, but it's not the power of Tnet, it's the power of Tnet users! So many people get bitten by this "what is it?" bug and spend unknown hours and days on research and searching countless pic's and sites. Only the ones who get things solved usually get the credit...which is fair, but take the time to remember those people who also spent hours and days searching the totally wrong objects which they thought it might have been and which we never hear about.
Grat's to Mike...but grat's to everyone else too. You all make this part of the site what it is! :wink: :icon_thumright:
 

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Dano Sverige said:
Another mystery laid to rest. Excellent work Mike! Not to knock the site, but it's not the power of Tnet, it's the power of Tnet users! So many people get bitten by this "what is it?" bug and spend unknown hours and days on research and searching countless pic's and sites. Only the ones who get things solved usually get the credit...which is fair, but take the time to remember those people who also spent hours and days searching the totally wrong objects which they thought it might have been and which we never hear about.
Grat's to Mike...but grat's to everyone else too. You all make this part of the site what it is! :wink: :icon_thumright:

Well said Dano,a lot of truth to that.Its rare to even get thanks a lot of time
 

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Dano Sverige said:
Another mystery laid to rest. Excellent work Mike! Not to knock the site, but it's not the power of Tnet, it's the power of Tnet users! So many people get bitten by this "what is it?" bug and spend unknown hours and days on research and searching countless pic's and sites. Only the ones who get things solved usually get the credit...which is fair, but take the time to remember those people who also spent hours and days searching the totally wrong objects which they thought it might have been and which we never hear about.
Grat's to Mike...but grat's to everyone else too. You all make this part of the site what it is! :wink: :icon_thumright:
Great point! Thanks to all who worked at getting this solved. Cheers everyone, Shane
 

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Dano Sverige said:
Another mystery laid to rest. Excellent work Mike! Not to knock the site, but it's not the power of Tnet, it's the power of Tnet users! So many people get bitten by this "what is it?" bug and spend unknown hours and days on research and searching countless pic's and sites. Only the ones who get things solved usually get the credit...which is fair, but take the time to remember those people who also spent hours and days searching the totally wrong objects which they thought it might have been and which we never hear about.
Grat's to Mike...but grat's to everyone else too. You all make this part of the site what it is! :wink: :icon_thumright:
Sometimes I might not realize the time and effort put into searching by others and its a good point to congratulate all those who spent time and effort searching dead ends and come up empty as well. But Im sure if they keep up the hard work, their share of congratulations will come.
 

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