Great Seal Button Backmarks Help

[Bigcypresshunter]

I am assembling a list of US Army Great Seal button backmarks 1902-present.. This seems to be the most complete list available anywhere. With the help of TN members, I am occasionally adding and improving upon it. So far I have over 100 different backmarks. Anyone with a Great Seal button backmark or backmark variation not listed please post the pic and Ill add it. The thread is already so long its not necessary to add anything already pictured. Thanks.

This is how it all started:


I bought 2 bags of small Great Seal of US buttons for a buck at a flea market. Can someone help me date these backmarks? I believe they are all post 1902. I cant find anything else online.

1- Top row SCOVILL MF'G CO WATERBURY (back ungilted)
2- SCOVILL MF'G CO WATERBURY
3- Bottom CITY BUTTON WORKS - N.Y.
4- WATERBURY BUTTON CO.

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

Found two great seal buttons today, one says Waterbury Button CT USA and the other says C&C C34 USA, is either of them unique or just two of the many variations around?

Post a pic of the C&C C34 USA

 

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[kenstein]

Great reference thread. Thank you Bigcypresshunter.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

If you have anything not on this list it would be helpful to post it, otherwise I have it. Im sorry I havent had time to update my list and many are missing..

1- SCOVILL MF'G CO WATERBURY (back ungilted) WWI (1850-1865 backmark)
2- SCOVILL MF'G CO WATERBURY WWI (1850-1865 backmark)
3- SCOVILL MF'G CO. WATERBURY CT. WWI (1870s-? backmark)
4- SCOVILL M'FG CO. WATERBURY (ring of dots) 1902 (1860-1880 backmark)
5- SCOVILL MF'G CO. * WATERBURY * 1902-1960? (1870s-1960? backmark)
6- WATERBURY BUTTON CO. * 1849-1965
7- WATERBURY BUTTON CO. *CONN.* pre 1965
8- WATERBURY COS INC CONN post 1965
9- W W W W (waterbury) modern
10- W.B. CO.
11- CITY BUTTON WORKS - N.Y.- WWI
12- CITY BUTTON WORKS- NEW YORK- 1877-1923 (moved to NJ 1923-55)
13- US PRODUCTS CORP
14- R. LIEBMANN MFG CO WWI
15 R. LIEBMANN MFG. CO.-NEWARK NJ- WWI-?
16- R.L. MFG Co Newark N.J. WWI-?
17- THE AUSTIN CO. PROVIDENCE R.I.
18- HORSTMANN *** PHILA *** 1893-1935
19- HORSTMANN PHILADELPHIA. * copper face- brass back overcoat size
20- N.S. MEYERS * NEW YORK * 1906-2000 (in business in NY)
21- AMERICAN BUTTON CO. *NEWARK N.J.* 1901-1920
22- AM. BUTTON CO *NEWARK, N.J.* 1902-1917
23- AMERICAN EMBLEM CO. UTICA N.Y. WWI
24- UNIQUE ART MFG CO. NEWARK, N. J. 1916-1952 approx.
25- THE ART METAL WORKS, NEWARK, N.J.
26- ART METAL WORKS INC -NEWARK, N.J.- 1902-1930 approx.
27- METAL SPECIALTIES Co. ATTLESBURG, MASS. 1940-1945 (painted black)
28- CHAS. FISCHER SPG. CO. NEW YORK WWII?
29- FINE * QUALITY *
30- GREENWOOD CO * DETROIT MICH *
31- COL BUT WKS RUTHERFORD N.J. WWI
32- COLUMBIA BUTTON WKS*RUTHERFORD,N.J.* WWI
33- NEW YORK BUTTON WORKS WWI (found in France)
34- S & J WATERBURY CT. WWI (found in France)
35- STEELE & JOHNSON * WATERBURY CT * WWI (found in France)
36- JEWELERS PRODUCTS CORP. PROV. R.I. WWI (found in France)
37- SUPREME 172 QUALITY
38- REX PRODUCTS CORP * NEW ROCHELLE, N.Y. * 1902-WWII
39- D. EVANS & CO. * NO. ATTLEBORO, MASS. (red back) 1848-1945
40- D. EVANS & CO. N.A. WWI (found in France)
41- D. EVANS & CO ATTLEBORO FALLS WWI
42- * SUPERIOR QUALITY *
43- MADE IN ENGLAND (anodized aluminum front)
44- S. EISENER CO. RED BANK N.J. WWI (in business1859-1925)
45- SIGMUND EISNER RED BANK N.J WWI " " " "
46- Art in Buttons U S U. S. A. (vegetable ivory)
47- ? N.Y. (pressed vegetable ivory) war years
48- C KENYON CO. NEW YORK WWI- 1930
49- BROOKS.BROTHERS *NEW YORK* ENGLAND 1902-1910.
50- L.A. MYERS. JR. INC. NEWARK N.J.
51- H.V. ALLIEN & CO. NEW YORK 1877-1948
52- DUSENBURY & SCHWAB INC. NEW YORK 229 4TH AVE.
53- LUXENBERG NEW YORK MADE IN ENGLAND
54- ROSENFIELD & RAPKIN * BOSTON, MASS.
55- WARNOCK UNIFORM CO *NEW YORK* (made from horn)
56- G J & F PARIS
57- H W I SCHWAB INC NEW YORK
58- THE J.E. MERGOTT CO. NEWARK, N. J.
59- JAMES C. DORAN & SONS PROVIDENCE R.I.
60- CORD 22
61- TIFFANY & CO. MAKERS ** M ** (14K gold blazer) 1907-1947
62- JACOB REED'S SONS * PHILA. * in business 1880-1983
63- A M & CIE 23 M PARIS
64- B.PASQUALE CO., S. FRAN., CAL. in business 1854-1970's
65- GEMSCO, N.Y.
66- SHIELDS INC. ATTLEBORO, MASS.
67- FINE QUALITY
68- ZELL PRODUCTS CORP. N.Y.C.
69- S.N. MEYER WASHINGTON D.C. in business 1890-1925
70- BADGER MFG. CO. RACINE, WI.
71- JOHNSON * MILANO * WWI (made in Italy)
72- MARSHALL FIELD & CO. CHIC ILL
73- U.S ARMY STANDARD *
74- JACOB REEDS SONS PHIL.
75- HEIBERGER WASHINGTON
76- D. KLEIN & BRO PHILA. PA. (copper)
77- E.A. ARMSTRONG MFG. CO. CHICAGO
78- KREMENTZ LIBERTY BRONZE
79- J.R. GAUNT LONDON
80- L.&R. METAL PROD. N.Y
81- CHESHIRE BUTTON * CT. USA *
82- L & R MEDAL PROD. N.Y.
83- MAURICE BOURDON PARIS
84- * (vegetable ivory) WWII
85- WOLCOTT MF'G CO. PROVIDENCE RI. in business 1906-1922
86- PAT. 54296 RENEWED '35 rare 1935-46 manufacturers error of 1919 patent
87- ATTLEBORO
88- (blank)
89- ARNSTEIN SIMON & CO. * S.F. * WWI
90- TAUNTON PEARL WKS. TAUNTON 1912- ?
91- HANDY BUTTON MACH. CO. * CHICAGO * tin-backed
92- HANDY BUTTON MACH. CO. * NEW YORK * tin-backed
93- GOLD PLATED * * *
93- LIBERTY MFG. CO. LOS ANGELES CAL. PATENT PEND. locket button WWII

I have a lot of work to do to update the list. I need to start adding the size. Thanks. Great pics.


ROSENFIELD & RAPKIN . BOSTON . 23mm
GAUNT.N.Y. MADE IN ENGLAND 15mm
J.R.GAUNT & SON INC. NEW YORK . MADE IN ENGLAND
D.EVANS & CO. INC. N. ATT. 15mm
J.C.L. SHABECK * PROV. R . I * 15mm screw post
JAFFE * JAFFE NEW YORK 15mm
WATERBURY BUTTON CO.
CLAYTON * CHICAGO

Just reposting the partial uncompleted list







And another list that has appeared online. http://inkspotantiques.com/?main_page=page&id=10

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Hi All, Here is an updated list of Great Seals I'm looking for: Non-dug please....

B.B.Abrahams/Philadelphia
S.Appel & Co. (coat size)
E.A.Armstrong
Bernhard & Schrag & Co. (coat size)
Best & Co. (Any)
Brooks Brothers (any type or size)
Chapsal & Michaul/Paris
Clayton /Chicago
DeMoulin Bros. (coat size)
James C. Doran & Sons/Providence R.I.
Dusenbury & Schwab Inc./New York/229-4th Ave
Fa Ne Di Lorenzo/Firenze
Frateli Reanda/Roma
Greenwood Co./Detroit Mich
Hahn/Baltimore
Johnson /Milano (coat size)
Jennens & Co. (gilt)
D.Klein & Bros./Philadelphia
Frank J. Krupp/Washington
S&B Lederer Co./Providence R.I.
Lewis MS Co. San Antonio
W&S Lyon Co. NY
W.S.Mangre & Co./San Fransico Calif
Marshall Field /Chicago
McEnany & Scott NY Made in England
SN Meyer/Washington
B. Pasquale Co. /S.Fran.,Cal. (officers button with cut out rim & eagle)
Publix Theater Corp NY
Reliable Mfg Co./Newark NJ
Alfredo Roensch (Any, and w/ applied device)
Josh Starkey (listed in Johnson's book)
State Arsenal/Harrisburg PA
T.W.&W./Paris
Tiffany & Co. (any type or size)
Travis Merchantile Co./San Antonio Tx
Walcott Mfg. Co Providence R.I.
Wender & Goldstein Brooklyn NY
J.H.Wilson/Philadelphia

As always any help is appreciated! Email is [email protected] Thanks!

Rockermikes want list

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Anyone ever hear of a pre-WWI Great Seal button manufactured in Germany?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

The backmark is HOCHFEINE A QUALITAT . 28M. .
They appear to be rare pre-WWI US Army buttons made in Germany. I cant find another example online and its not listed. Do you have this backmark rockermike? Sorry about the poor lighting in the pics as the sun is going down.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I found the exact button back on a Nazi Luftwaffe Generals Coat Button but 22 mm. How ironic? It even has the same unsoldered floppy shank. WWI Nazi Orig Luftwaffe Generals Coat Button Very Rare

 

[rockermike17368]

Made by Assmann & Sohne Ludenscheid Germany. The company has been making buttons since the 1700's. They've made buttons for many countries. It's still in business today. I have a coat size. http://tnet.forumfoundry.com/forums/images/styles/Sandstorm/attach/jpg.gif

 

[rockermike17368]

Just checked, I do have the overcoat too. http://tnet.forumfoundry.com/forums/images/styles/Sandstorm/attach/jpg.gif http://tnet.forumfoundry.com/forums/images/styles/Sandstorm/attach/jpg.gif

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

OK how is your book coming along?

 

[rockermike17368]

OK how is your book coming along?

It's coming along nicely now. It should be done soon. I'll be glad when it's done

 

[rockermike17368]

These buttons are somewhat scarce. I've only run into a few of them. Overcoat (28mm) seem to be the most common.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

These buttons are somewhat scarce. I've only run into a few of them. Overcoat (28mm) seem to be the most common.

I paid $9 for 8 buttons. Maybe I could use some of them for trade.

 

[fyrffytr1]

Hey BCH, I thought you might get a kick out of these buttons. A friend of ours gave our Yorkie a sweater and it has two buttons on it that, at first glance, resemble a Great Seal one.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

That's proof that "Fashion button" versions of the US Army Great Seal button do indeed exist. Thanks for the post and the photos, Fyrffytr1 .

 

[gdzag]

Hey Guys...
I need help... Please. I found this GS button in December 2015 and I can't seem to find another with this "British Made" backmark anywhere... I've scanned through the 23 previous pages to no avail. The closest backmark is the "Made in England" one.

Here it is:
Thanks Gerry

 

[cudamark]

Small great seal button

Here's a new one I just found. I don't see it on the list exactly. I see the name of the maker.....D Evans & Co..... on other buttons, but, no town or city on the back of mine, just "Superfine" stamped underneath. 15mm with an "I" in the shield. Infantry? I would like to know the year(s) made if possible, and it's use. Found at an old home site.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Hey Guys...
I need help... Please. I found this GS button in December 2015 and I can't seem to find another with this "British Made" backmark anywhere... I've scanned through the 23 previous pages to no avail. The closest backmark is the "Made in England" one.

Here it is:
Thanks GerryView attachment 1263375View attachment 1263376

Thats a new one. Do you have this backmark rockermike?

EDIT: Its in the book:

all i can tell you its after wwI. Nice rare great seal backmark.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Here's a new one I just found. I don't see it on the list exactly. I see the name of the maker.....D Evans & Co..... on other buttons, but, no town or city on the back of mine, just "Superfine" stamped underneath. 15mm with an "I" in the shield. Infantry? I would like to know the year(s) made if possible, and it's use. Found at an old home site.

Thats not a Great Seal button. yours is older.

 

[gdzag]

Thankyou for the help guys. Great info!