GOLD RUSH BEGINS TONIGHT

[AzViper]

The new season of Gold Rush begins tonight. Tony Beets buys an old bucket dredge and is to restore it and put it into action.

 

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[KevinInColorado]

I can't believe I'm actually posting on this thread.
I've watched the show just enough to say that Parker really isn't interested in honoring his grandfather. If he was the best way to do it would be to emulate his life. Clean mouth, never said anything bad about anyone, never yelled at folks, and always looked for the good in people and situations.

Remember Parker is a young whippersnapper yet. How old was grandpa when you 'met' him? A bit more seasoned and mature.

 

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[Vance in AK]

I understand what you guys are saying and hope he matures into the man his grandpa was.
No doubt he has his work ethic.

 

[bcfromfl]

I remember when they did a special on John Schnabel, the old photos said volumes about his humble beginnings.

When you see Parker, and his coddled life of entitlement under his family's successful business in Alaska, there's absolutely no comparison.

Parker has earned nothing on his own. Everything has been handed to him, including a $100,000 gift from his grandfather to help him get started. (I remember his parents also buying him a brand-new six-figure dozer a couple seasons back as well.) John Schnabel earned every cent in his life, and you can't build anything successful from the ground up if you treat people who work for you the way Parker does. I would venture to guess that John Schnabel never acted like a spoiled brat. People...especially hardy Alaskans in the 1940s, 50s, and 60s...never would have tolerated that kind of behavior. If he had, he would have found himself on his own very quickly, and possibly his efforts at business intentionally sabotaged. Frontier life was very, very different sixty or seventy years ago. You had to work together as a team with the community around you. Life depended upon neighbors helping neighbors, and barter systems were based upon trust and friendship.

I think the only reason a select few people have stuck with Parker over the length of the series is they are paid well, and, by virtue of striking a deal to lease good ground from Tony, are benefiting from connections made through the Discovery Channel.

IMO, there's a massive difference between the success Parker is experiencing, and what his grandfather earned. Say what you will about Todd, but he at least treats his people with love and respect.

 

[KevinInColorado]

Fair points...from what we see on the show at least.

 

[Kenmitch]

I remember when they did a special on John Schnabel, the old photos said volumes about his humble beginnings.

When you see Parker, and his coddled life of entitlement under his family's successful business in Alaska, there's absolutely no comparison.

Parker has earned nothing on his own. Everything has been handed to him, including a $100,000 gift from his grandfather to help him get started. (I remember his parents also buying him a brand-new six-figure dozer a couple seasons back as well.) John Schnabel earned every cent in his life, and you can't build anything successful from the ground up if you treat people who work for you the way Parker does. I would venture to guess that John Schnabel never acted like a spoiled brat. People...especially hardy Alaskans in the 1940s, 50s, and 60s...never would have tolerated that kind of behavior. If he had, he would have found himself on his own very quickly, and possibly his efforts at business intentionally sabotaged. Frontier life was very, very different sixty or seventy years ago. You had to work together as a team with the community around you. Life depended upon neighbors helping neighbors, and barter systems were based upon trust and friendship.

I think the only reason a select few people have stuck with Parker over the length of the series is they are paid well, and, by virtue of striking a deal to lease good ground from Tony, are benefiting from connections made through the Discovery Channel.

IMO, there's a massive difference between the success Parker is experiencing, and what his grandfather earned. Say what you will about Todd, but he at least treats his people with love and respect.

Life in the past was much harder back in the day....That's a given. Not trying to take anything away from those who earned it the hard way.

I understand what your saying....It just doesn't really fit in with the way things work these days though. It's human nature to better life for the next generation(s).

Parkers parents give him his college fund after he decided to pursue mining instead of college. Parkers grandpa gave him his inheritance early to get him started and to also see him enjoy it!

 

[goldog]

You almost had me. But Todd. Love and respect A better man, boss, whatever?? I don't think so.

 

[KevinInColorado]

@Kenmitch
...And as a Dad I can say my greatest joy is seeing my young adult children succeed. I can only imagine the grandfather experience!!

 

[AzViper]

Watched Gold Rush for the first time in three weeks. I give the four of them credit for trying this adventure but lets face it, the four of them are not alone. First off Discovery due to liability issues would never chance having 4 people die at the hands of filming a show. You can bet there is medical staff, helicopter, satellite radio, etc. nearby. From the footage they used drones for overhead shots of the four of them hiking up the side of the mountain, at times a film crew was on the ground with them as seen in a few scenes. As much as Parker wants us to believe he is following what the miners did 120 years ago he's far from it as the old timers did not have the luxury of staging supplies, having canoes, etc. This is why 70,000 never made to Dawson City. Either way even in my younger days I would never set off on this adventure, lets see our the script writing write this chapter of Parker's life...

 

[augoldminer]

i had to laugh at that.
toad has not been mining enough in the US and its not like Canada where they want mining.
in the US every A88 is calling the state or feds anytime they think they can get a mine shut down.

someone filed a citizen complaint and i will bet it was a treehugger driving by on the road you can see in the background on the show.
happens all the time in calif.

i had a friend that had MSHA inspectors coming to has mine claiming they had complaints from employees about safety violations.
problem was it was a family operation and there were no employees and no complainants.
The treehuggers were calling MSHA claiming to be employees.

i also get a laugh at this part.

I also assert that 316 Mining, LLC unlawfully registered the Katuska Pit (Fairplay Placer mine) as a NEW MINE with the MSHA, receiving a new MSHA mine ID (05-05067) for an already existing mine (ID 05-04551).

I to would have filed as a new mine with MHSA because if someone got hurt or worse the old mine safety records would have used to make 316 mining look bad and with some safety violations go up with repeat violations
also if any old violations were no cleared they could give a C&D order.

 

[Ordell]

Todd gets shut down AGAIN.

GOLD RUSH Todd Hoffman's Colorado mine shut down by Park County cease and desist - starcasm.net

 

[russau]

As far as the Hoffman's go and their show , even bad news is good news for them as long as they are still in the news!

 

[AzViper]

Hey Toad, I heard that Knott's Berry Farm Amusement Park is open for gold mining. Right up your alley. You and pop could be the side show​

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[Jason in Enid]

As far as the Hoffman's go and their show , even bad news is good news for them as long as they are still in the news!

Not if they can't mine it isnt! No mining, no show. No show, no $$$$

 

[Honest Samuel]

God bless Grandpa John.

 

[Ordell]

It gets better.

GOLD RUSH Todd Hoffman mine dispute leads to gunfire, arrest - starcasm.net

Gold Rush miner Todd Hoffman relocated his mining operations from Canada to the United States last season, eventually opting for Colorado after a failing to find gold in Todd’s home state of Oregon. Next season looks to feature more difficulties for the Hoffman crew as they run into problems with two of #Merica’s most famous traditions: bureaucracy and guns.

As we previously reported, one of the Hoffmans’ two mining locations has been temporarily shut down after a local resident filed a complaint pointing out that the Fairplay mine is located on land zoned for residential use. This came after the crew was found guilty of mining beyond their permitted boundaries, resulting in a hefty fine.

In addition to trying to dodge figurative bullets with their zoning difficulties, the crew is also reportedly dodging literal bullets! On May 18, a man named Aaron Borth was arrested after allegedly firing his gun four times in the direction of the crew!

 

[AzViper]

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[Kace]

The debate continues in my house. I say Toad is paid to look stupid and Karen says he comes by it naturally.

Listen to your wife...Karen is Right...Natural Born Idiot! Except Eating, He IS Good At That. This show started by Down and Out Economy And Those Guys Going For The Gold In Alaska! It was supposed to inspire people, not be a comedy of errors hour. First of all he SELLS EMPTY DREAMS and is Good At Selling Horse Hockey! He Doesn't Work, He sits and eats or sleeps in his RV and Now Tour Bus. Even the crew says you can find Todd in his bus. He does Barks Stupid Orders. He wouldn't be paid to look like a Stooge, that's why they brought in the other teams. Jack and all his years of Heavy Equipment Operation doesn't even know how to make a road with pump pad into the "GLORY HOLE". Really?? I don't Gold Mine but even I know that you won't stop Anything On A Wet,Slick,Downhill,Flat Metal Surface! I guess they never heard of water slides, slides, sledding or skiing! Those two are the Real Dumb and Dumber! No doubt it's in the contract that they have to be in the show for it to keep running. Hopefully Dave T. Will have his own show or at least Crew away from Hoffman's.

 

[Kace]

My DVR cut off off half way thru, what happened to daves eye, and what showed him leaving Todd?

JB

He got into a fight with one of the crew, newer guy and can't remember his name. Todd tried to intervene and tripped and rolled over on his back like a turtle. LOL!! Best part of the show. Might be on YouTube

 

[Kace]

I'm guessing Freddie never studied the placer report linked on that map a few posts back? The report on page 65 and the map on page 82 as well as the narrative indicate the property was extensively dredged. That and the State of Colorado gravel mining permit that restricts the operation to previously mined ground.

I don't watch the show. I did watch a few episodes the first year. I hope those who do watch it enjoy it as entertainment. I didn't but I find very little television that I enjoy watching. That doesn't mean it's a bad show or my taste is better than anyone else - it's just not my thing. All my partners watch it and generally enjoy the show.

Clearly the Hoffmans would have been back working the 9 to 5 after their first year if this were really based on mining. I'm sure there are those who remember Guyana as a country that had a moratorium on placer mining when the Hoffmans took over the "mining" site from the previous European tv show operation. Now I hear Oregon was a bust too.

The gold in Fairplay is about 18 - 19 karat (76 - 80%). The better paying placers there produced about $9.60 a yard in today's money. That was working the best gravels first. Much of the placer paid less than half that. A large operation can make that pay. They already did make it pay at Fairplay and the Katuska pit.

Is there gold at Fairplay? You betcha. That glacial moraine may still hold more than what was already mined. If I were mining there I would be looking at unworked areas in the moraine.

I wish them luck with their television show.

Heavy Pans

In Guyana they were mining a Trash Dump. Tennis Shoe, Trash Bags. Idiots!

 

[Kace]

Has anyone else noticed that Mitch Blasic...Parker's Mechanic. Blue Buzzard Hard Hat Guy, Is also on Street Outlaws out of Oklahoma City? I haven't heard them call him Mitch on that show but I've quit watching it much after Big Dumb-Chief cheated on and left his wife the way he did. Ingrate.