gold guilt eagle button need id. better pics added!!! pre civil war??

[Mr Tuff]

i found this button at a 100+ old park, any help from the button masters would be appreciated.. thanks MR TUFF

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

Looks like an old Marine Corps button and the one you found looks like it just broke and that's the inside pieces

My bad sorry it's an antique "Great Seal" General Service button date range 1854-1875 would be a good place to start to see if there are any differences.

Go to google, click "images" at the top of the page and type in exactly this (with quotes to narrow down the google search):

"Great Seal" Eagle button antique

after that switch it up and change it try also: Antique "Great Seal" button

You can find a range of photos to go through to check for differences
Notice especially the rim of the button is different from others


Have you gone back to dig in the same area again?

Possibly Revolutionary War? or could be Navy I think the Navy uses rims like that but maybe Navy Seal aka Marine Corp

Check this, look at the rim here:

http://metaldetectingworld.com/05_photo_gallery/05_us_rw_but/pages/Flat%201-piece%20Civilian%20Button%2C%20American%20Rev%20War%20Period%20(5).htm

yuppers check this rim but it's not the age: http://media.photobucket.com/image/...s/auctionpics2/vanguardeagleanchorbutton1.jpg

also check this one, Navy rim: http://media.photobucket.com/image/...s/auctionpics2/waterburynavyanchorbutton1.jpg

best guess old Navy Seal possibly something close, search Navy Seal button history + Navy button history + Marine button history

Are you sure its not a rare antique 1854-1875 Air Force? Please stop the crazy wild guesses lottorocks. You are not helping.. You remind me a lot of someone else when he first joined lol. I suggest for starters that you read all the above prior posts. We already discussed Great Seal buttons.

 

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[kuger]

According to legend, the eagle in the seal faced the arrow-holding talon in times of war and switched its stern gaze toward the olive branch in times of peace.

The eagle's glare did indeed get reversed — just once, by President Harry S. Truman in 1945. But only, it turns out, to correct the grievous heraldic error that President Rutherford B. Hayes had made 65 years before, when he designed the first seal to adorn White House invitations.

"In point of fact, the viewer's left is the dexter side, the honorable side on any shield," said Joe Spollen, head sculptor at the heraldry institute, which among its other duties nurtures rules and terminology from the Middle Ages. "The sinister side, on the viewer's right, is the less honorable."

And so Truman, after learning the truth from the director of the heraldry office at the time, switched the gaze from sinister to dexter, where it remains today.
http://www.ascho.wpafb.af.mil/additional_information/tioh_nyt_13jun2006.html

This needs additional reasearch. I dont understand the button from greybirdrelics with the arrows in the right talon..

Great info B.C,I have never heard that!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I cant find your button back but It looks very familiar but I cant remember where I saw it. Here is the closest I could find in my box. Could it have had a post?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: gold guilt eagle button need id. better pics added!!!

not sure but i found this pic of some revolutionary war button backs.. the top left looks similar

This is an old post but I learned from CC Hunter that your Revolutionary War button in reply #9 is part of an old blowhole or vent hole type of 2 piece button.

Mikes in reply #11 may be as well.

I dont know about the eagle. Its a very strange type of button but maybe CC Hunter can help.

 

[Roger Mn.]

The shield looks like this button. Federal Officers Button. Says Civilwar.




http://www.relicman.com/buttons/zArchiveButtonFederalA1Officer.htm

 

[timekiller]

I've not read all the replies but to me that button does not look much older then the 1950's maybe.It just looks cheaply done to me.And it looks to be all there with the one part being the back itself.They did make buttons with a piece inside for reinforcement for the shank much like the marine button I found some time ago now (pic. below).But yours looks more like the type of uniform dress buttons of the 1960's or so as a back.(pic. below)IMHO.
Take Care,
Pete,

 

[CC Hunter]

The "eagle button" is unlike anything I've seen before. The three-piece General Staff buttons of the mid 19th century are much different in design and construction, compared to what we see with the mystery example. My hunch is pulling towards early 1900's collar or cuff button, and likely private purchase item, rather than military issue. I'm thinking there was some type of shaft or stud affixed to the back (now missing), and this was never an actual "sewn on" style clothing button.

CC Hunter