Forrest Fenn s treasure

[Treasure_Hunter]

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[ousooner82]

HEY THATS A GREAT IDEA ......PM EACH OTHER FOR GOD"S SAKE!!!! MODS can you ban this crap PLEASE!!!!

Thank you. I totally agree!!

 

[KGCnewbieseeker]

it seems a lot are still trying to make places fit the clues instead of vice versa. I was tempted to ask people the places they had ruled out and checked as well but did not because of two reasons, 1 the logic they used to eventually find this spot may taint my logic in finding my spot, and two it may well have been the right spot and the treasure was missed ( as FF said was the case by only 100 feet).

Also the mention that he "slipped" and the height was 7000 and not 5000 is most likely after rewatching the interview here () the bit is at about 1:05. he wrote 5000 but said clearly seven before he looked at his notes lol so is it something? will it help round down things? Dunno but He also said several other things and I don't think clues will help. Use the poem. thats all you need. Imagine this treasure isnt found for hundreds of years, what locations will remain? what places will stand the test of time? those are the places you might consider looking.

For the neigh sayers you aren't convincing anyone to stop looking, we don't feel foolish for looking even if we come back empty handed. Its the people with the crazy ideas and passion to make their ideas reality that brought about evolution of technology medicine and sciences. Someone will find it. but they have to look for it. Someones gonna win the lotto but you won't if you don't play.

 

[KGCnewbieseeker]

This Forrest Fenn "treasure" smells like a steaming pile of hoax. From what I can tell, he is an old man with relatively few years left and he desperately wants to be remembered. In his decades of ransacking Native American sites and deceiving people into selling rarities to him low so he could hype up the artifacts and sell high, he has made a bundle, but at heart he knows that he is a hack and hustler who would be forgotten soon after death provided he didn't devise this or some similar scheme to keep the gullible chasing the ghost of an idea of an ultimately nonexistent treasure, and thus keep him "alive" long after burial. For those out there who don't believe in an afterlife, and there are millions, the only way to continue living after death is to be remembered. He straight-up said that this is his goal, and for a man who spent years immersed in ancient and antique material remains of cultures or individuals long dead and vanished; leaving behind only the artifacts and stories and legends, this particular approach makes excellent sense.

Even if it is real, it's only a 1,000,000 dollar "treasure", and there is only one. Every single one of you wild-goose-chasers would be way better off hunting for a Rembrandt or Van Gough at a yard sale or junk auction; items worth many times more than the likely-nonexistent Fenn treasure. If you'd be happy with less than 8 figures, go looking for copies of the Declaration of Independence tucked in the pages or binding of an old family bible, or Mafia gold, or forgotten catacombs with ancient biblical texts, or what have you. Hunting for Fenn's fabrication is an asinine waste of time, money, and resources. Nonsense in its quintuple-distilled, most purified form. That man will be laughing in his grave for centuries while generations upon generations of idiots descended from an ancient line of gullible idiots go questing for his fiction. Might as well hunt for the Philosopher's Stone as well while you're at it, as finding the latter is guaranteed to be equally likely!

actually people find treasures at junk yardsales and craigslist all the time. I just read today where a guy found 98K in a desk he bought for 150usd on craigs list. so yeh Ill keep lookin'

 

[bliss444]

this is a type of brave he is looking for:
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So you're saying you believe the blaze is in water.

 

[bliss444]

As far as the blaze is concerned, I wanted to hear Jay's opinion because I wanted to hear an opinion that I hadn't heard before. He seems like he had a lot to offer or at least put much thought into this whole thing. Among most people invested in the search it seems like there's about 5 or 10 different opinions on what the blaze is, whether it's based on sunlight shining on something, trail head markers, marks on logs or rocks, waterfalls, fireplaces and caves. I wanted to hear an opinion that was different from that and it sounded like he claimed to have a different opinion or at least pretty confident. Mr Fenn has said to start at the beginning of the Poem to figure out the end point. But he also also said he doesn't like rules. So why not start from the end point. But than the question lies if the blaze can mean anything, than how can he claim this is a challenge? I guess it's like saying it's a challenge to win the lottery.

 

[nvradar]

I think FF's little 7 slip was just that, a slip and he knew it wasn't right so he quickly looked at his notes. I could be way wrong to. It is filed for sure!

KGC I know FF said folks have been 500 ft. away I never heard it as 100 ft. did I miss that info somewhere?

Bliss..... we all want to hear a different opinion on here for sure. People asked him questions and he would talk in circles and nonsense.


Thanks Treasure Hunter

 

[KGCnewbieseeker]

NV I have read so many articles and opinions and it seems I was lapse in my memory of distance I got the following bits from Dal's blog " Searchers have been within 500 feet of the chest - Forrest did say this and he was quoted in the Hemispheres story in January of 2013 by Margie Goldsmith. Some people think that this would be a huge clue to any searcher who was told this. Is it in fact a huge clue…?

Forrest has said the chest weighs about 42 pounds. The laws of biology pretty much demand that a 79 or 80 year-old man is not likely to haul that kind of weight very far on foot. So my guess is that the chest is probably within striking distance of some kind of road. That being the case, how many people do you think have driven down that road and passed within a reasonable proximity of the treasure, never dreaming it was there? Mr. Fenn is pretty frugal with any new information about where the treasure is hiding. Further, there is no reason to assume that the searchers who were within 500 feet of the chest were ever told by Forrest just how close they actually were. It may have been you. If this is a clue, I don’t see how.


Folks have had the first two clues correct - Forrest did write this as a comment on my blog in the story “Stephen Returns to the Blaze”. His exact quote from the comment is as follows:


“some folks correctly mentioned the first two clues to me in an email and then they went right past the other seven, not knowing that they had been so close”.


My interpretation of this is that a lot of people write Forrest with their ideas for the clues in the poem. I think some hope that Forrest might say something like “By golly, you’re right. You’ve guessed it.” Of course Forrest would never say that but my point is that Forrest hears a lot of ideas that searchers have for the clues in the poem. And at least some of them have gotten the first two clues correct but then went on to incorrectly state the next seven clues. Forrest keeps telling us that we have to start with “Where warm waters halt.” and that trying to find it by finding a blaze first, is the wrong way to go about the search. It may be comforting to know that some have actually deciphered some of the clues correctly…but it’s not exactly a clue."

Rumors Abound? | Thrill Of The Chase link to the page

Thank you for mentioning the mistake

 

[ousooner82]

NV I have read so many articles and opinions and it seems I was lapse in my memory of distance I got the following bits from Dal's blog " Searchers have been within 500 feet of the chest - Forrest did say this and he was quoted in the Hemispheres story in January of 2013 by Margie Goldsmith. Some people think that this would be a huge clue to any searcher who was told this. Is it in fact a huge clue...? Forrest has said the chest weighs about 42 pounds. The laws of biology pretty much demand that a 79 or 80 year-old man is not likely to haul that kind of weight very far on foot. So my guess is that the chest is probably within striking distance of some kind of road. That being the case, how many people do you think have driven down that road and passed within a reasonable proximity of the treasure, never dreaming it was there? Mr. Fenn is pretty frugal with any new information about where the treasure is hiding. Further, there is no reason to assume that the searchers who were within 500 feet of the chest were ever told by Forrest just how close they actually were. It may have been you. If this is a clue, I don’t see how. Folks have had the first two clues correct - Forrest did write this as a comment on my blog in the story “Stephen Returns to the Blaze”. His exact quote from the comment is as follows: “some folks correctly mentioned the first two clues to me in an email and then they went right past the other seven, not knowing that they had been so close”. My interpretation of this is that a lot of people write Forrest with their ideas for the clues in the poem. I think some hope that Forrest might say something like “By golly, you’re right. You’ve guessed it.” Of course Forrest would never say that but my point is that Forrest hears a lot of ideas that searchers have for the clues in the poem. And at least some of them have gotten the first two clues correct but then went on to incorrectly state the next seven clues. Forrest keeps telling us that we have to start with “Where warm waters halt.” and that trying to find it by finding a blaze first, is the wrong way to go about the search. It may be comforting to know that some have actually deciphered some of the clues correctly...but it’s not exactly a clue." Rumors Abound? | Thrill Of The Chase link to the page Thank you for mentioning the mistake

Granted he did say it took 2 trips to get it all there so he could have carried 20lbs much further. jat

 

[Ronzie]

The secret is not over thinking it and keeping it simple. Most definitely "Begin it where warm waters halt".

 

[nvradar]

FF's clues are very very tantalizing but with all the e-mail he receives he knows nobody will know who he is speaking of. I to have corresponded with FF.As lots of folks have. Which are the first two clues and the which are fillers and decoys? Seems straight forward to most I think. When you hear FF say he "crafted the poem" over 15 years it should give pause.

FF did say two trips to get it to the hiding place..... what was his mode of transportation? There are many different ways to get somewhere....IE" not far but to far to walk." This line tells me something very important.

Don't over think it for sure BUT... you do need to try to think like FF to solve it I believe. That may prove very tough.

 

[bliss444]

At the 11/2/13 book store Q&A I would have to say the most compelling question and reaction was about 8 minutes into the video. Some woman asks Mr. Fenn, if you follow the clues precisely, would you find yourself switching back? It was a peculiar question but his reaction was strange. Maybe just trying to digest the question but he looked surprised.

 

[LiquidG]

OK,... I will share the "heavy lodes"...


Side note: I believe I have solved the "accidental unintended clue".

I haven't yet proven it, but it is very fitting !!

I know I'm a little late coming to this conversation, but he explained the unintended clue at his recent Taos signing. Apparently he did not realize that Benchmark Maps did not extend their maps of the Rocky Mountains into Canada (even though the Rockies continue into Canada). He discovered this after the printing. Therefor the unintentional clue is... "The treasure is not in Canada". Not that it seems anybody was barking up that Tree... still

 

[KGCnewbieseeker]

after reading re-reading and re-reading notes clues blogs ideas and getting dizzy with FF fever, I have come to the conclusion that if you dont start in the right place you have already lost. The begining is also the end. in that if you start in the correct place the other clues not only validate its the correct place but also point you toward where to look to find the treasure. its within eyes view and you can see it from the start but need to follow the clues inorder to get to the location its in. by walking only, (no watercrafts, cars, ect. to get to the exact spot) once you are at the beginning. Good thing I have all winter to research and narrow down places

 

[LiquidG]

after reading re-reading and re-reading notes clues blogs ideas and getting dizzy with FF fever, I have come to the conclusion that if you dont start in the right place you have already lost. The begining is also the end. in that if you start in the correct place the other clues not only validate its the correct place but also point you toward where to look to find the treasure. its within eyes view and you can see it from the start but need to follow the clues inorder to get to the location its in. by walking only, (no watercrafts, cars, ect. to get to the exact spot) once you are at the beginning. Good thing I have all winter to research and narrow down places

I have to agree. We can certainly speculate to the ends of the earth what, for example, the blaze, is... but if you haven't figured out the first part, it really only amounts to fun guessing games.

I am unsure if, like you say, you can see it from the start, but I feel pretty confident that if you knew without doubt where "warm waters halt", it would not take you too much longer to find the prize.

 

[cw0909]

Forrest Fenn, Collected Works Bookstore, 10-22-2013

 

[nvradar]

IF IF IF where warm waters halt IS the first clue.

 

[chad68]

Hey guys. Cool site. I found out about the FF thing and this thread a few months ago. I read this thread way back and have been following it the whole time off and on as an unregistered lurker, till now. After about 5 days of researching and reading back then, I initially had a place/spot in mind and over those months that spot has never changed. I will be getting laid off from my job of 20 years in March and will have some free time and since I have never been to this part of the US, I'm taking a trip to sight see and search a certain spot. Below I rearranged the clues into a different order and all the clues fit my spot, some fit on more than one level. Some clues may have dual meanings for the same thing, whether done intentionally or not by FF. For those that have the poem memorized, you can see I swapped some of the off the wall lingo FF used for more simpler English wording and added some (clarifications) where needed but careful to not add too many clarifications. Enjoy my take on it......


Begin your quest where warm waters halt. From here it's not too far but too far to walk. If you've been wise and found the blaze, then take it (the path) 'down' into the canyon. The end is drawing ever near. There will be no paddle up your creek. From here it's no place for the weak/timid, just heavy loads and water high. If you are brave and in the wood, look quickly down your treasure to take. Put (your hand/possibly body) in below the home of Brown, as your effort will be worth the cold. Don't gaze too long at the treasure in awe, just take the chest and go in peace, as I give you title to the gold.

 

[KGCnewbieseeker]

you should have a spot that fits the clues as they are, anyone can make the poem fit the spot they want if they re-arrange it. good luck tho!

 

[vor]

Ok this is my last post unless anybody has any questions. The more I think about what that poster was trying to secretly covey to FF that he had actually figured out the poem and found the chest, that poster would have had to be out of his mind to say that on an open forum, as anybody who was in the ballpark of the spot would have read between the lines in his post as I did because the poster was not very subtle about his wording, especially if you already know the general spot/area and a couple of the clues.

When I read that post my heart sank. Just hours before I was thrilled I got the last piece to fit with every single other clue and then some, then the next day trying to map search to find the easiest route down the canyon since Google images are kind of grainy, stumbling onto the post that somebody beat me to it. Even FF's response to the guy could have been a secret nod to the guy for finding it, without FF acknowledging outright on an open forum that the poster was right and took the chest, so that others would continue the hunt.

Yawn